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American Collectivism
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DITCHED: Libertarian Paradise or Lawless Wasteland?

Postby American Collectivism » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:13 am

Description: After hearing some embarrassing news that “@Nation Name@ is classified by the WA as an Anarchy” and “A complete break down of social order has resulted in leadership through biker gangs,” your aides have proposed a formal discussion over whether having an absence of laws is truly beneficial for the nation.

Validity: Nation must be an Anarchy

Option 1: “Look, I swear I’m not a socialist” your sister mentions, while reading a copy of bestselling book Redistribution of Wealth is Life. “I’m just saying that the amount of billboard and online advertising in this nation is excessive.” Why should I get bombarded with ads for Grandpa’s Pizza in @Capital City@ when Maxx’s Pizza is just as good, if not better? I’d say we do away with some of the more shady corporate practices, and return the power back to you and I. Uh, I mean the people. @Nation Name@ will no doubt become a model nation.”

Fallout: The new Eckie-Ecola themed amusement park is now covered in government red tape.

Option 2: “Yeah, that’s exactly what a socialist would say,” your brother scoffs. “The real problem with @Nation Name@ is the fact that any political party is allowed run for government positions. Like the Yellow Striped @National Animal@ Party.” It’s literally just a party of backwoods racists that want to take power away from YOU. “We should ban all extremist political parties from running in elections,” he states as the rest of your family glares at him.

Fallout: Extremists learn for the first time in their lives that their political viewpoint isn’t valid

Option 3: “I can’t believe what I’m hearing from you two!” states your father. “Our nation was built on democracy and capitalism! The real issue here is that people think they can say and do whatever they they want and get away with it. Like when my flight out of @Capital City@ was delayed for two hours because some idiot wanted to pet a bomb sniffing dog.” “Increased funding for law enforcement should keep @Nation Name@ in check.”

Fallout: @Nation Name’s@ state police are regularly accused of being too nasty.

Option 4: “What’s that I hear!” yells @Random Name@ leader of the most feared bridge biker gang in @Nation Name@, while trying to break into the government building. You fat swine are trying to take away our FREEDOM! I’d say we still need fewer laws. Like the freedom to carry bayonets in public. Or the freedom to pour motor oil into public swimming pools. Or the freedom to ride bikes indoors!” Sign this sheet of paper immediately and I might spare you,” he states while waving a pitchfork.

Fallout: It is said that @Leader@ is flattered whenever someone tries to break the law.
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Postby American Collectivism » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:16 am

THIS IS NOT MY FIRST ISSUE
I have already posted three issues on this forum with an alt-account nation, Socialist Ancomistan. Also the sister represents Civil Rights Lovefest, the brother represents Capitalizt, and the father represents Corporate Bordello.

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Tinhampton
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tinhampton » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:36 am

I thought (based on the title) this was going to be an issue themed around that one New England town that libertarians took over for themselves, then proceeded to mismanage so badly that there was an infestation of bears within a few years.

Your description says that "your aides" have been called in. These aides turn out to be three members of your family and the "leader of the most feared bridge biker gang." Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Anarchy is the category you receive when your Civil Rights, Political Freedom, and Economic Freedom rankings are all very close to 100. Being an Anarchy is neither necessary nor sufficient for "an absence of laws;" that is just the flavour text given to anarchies by the World Census. Given that proposed stat changes in your options are neither wanted nor needed by the editors, I have to beg the question... why?

Your four speakers offer four recommendations: to curb advertisements, ban "extremist political parties," boost "funding for law enforcement," or do nothing. This is supposed to be an issue about @@NAME@@ not having any laws; your options should be tailored accordingly.

Why was this draft written with American Collectivism rather than Socialist Ancomistan? I had assumed that SA was your main nation (you've written 300 posts, including a couple of issue drafts, with that nation - and five posts with AC).
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:27 pm

Tinhampton wrote:I thought (based on the title) this was going to be an issue themed around that one New England town that libertarians took over for themselves, then proceeded to mismanage so badly that there was an infestation of bears within a few years.

You have something against bears?
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The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:57 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:I thought (based on the title) this was going to be an issue themed around that one New England town that libertarians took over for themselves, then proceeded to mismanage so badly that there was an infestation of bears within a few years.

You have something against bears?
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But they aren't Urrsish! :P my other points stand
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 329,537): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356, GA#559, GA#562, GA#567, GA#578, SC#374, GA#582, SC#375, GA#589, GA#590, SC#382, SC#385*, GA#597, GA#607, SC#415, GA#647, GA#656, GA#664, GA#671, GA#674, GA#675, GA#677, GA#680, Issue #1580, GA#682, GA#683, GA#684, GA#692, GA#693, GA#715
The rest of my CV: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; *author of the most popular SC Res. ever; anti-NPO cabalist in good standing; 48yo Tory woman w/Asperger's; Cambridge graduate ~ currently reading The World by Simon Sebag Montefiore

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:35 am

Option 1- What's that gotta do with the price of fish?
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:28 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:Option 1- What's that gotta do with the price of fish?


He never mentioned fish even once in this issue, let alone option 1.
I'd say this nation is about 85-90% representative to my beliefs. About the only difference between my nation and beliefs is that free markets are effective in a select few situations, and the compulsory organ harvesting is kind of screwed up

Equality > Freedom

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:47 pm

Socialist Ancomistan wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Option 1- What's that gotta do with the price of fish?


He never mentioned fish even once in this issue, let alone option 1.

"What's that to do with the price of fish?" is a colloquial expression meaning "How is it that relevant to the topic under discussion?".
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:13 am

This issue looks past the point of no return. I'm going to scrap it. Yes it was subtle based off of the "Psychotic Dictatorship" issue. I also run the American Collectivism account, so hopefully they will be okay with that lol
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I'd say this nation is about 85-90% representative to my beliefs. About the only difference between my nation and beliefs is that free markets are effective in a select few situations, and the compulsory organ harvesting is kind of screwed up

Equality > Freedom


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