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[DRAFT]God stands Trial?

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[DRAFT]God stands Trial?

Postby Wormfodder Delivery » Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:20 am

Title: God stands Trial?

Valid for nations with: High religiosity and high cynicism

Issue: After a recent catastrophe, some @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ have called for the one who should by all means be responsible for that to be brought before the law and sued for the damages, the God of @@FAITH@@, several petitioners have appeared in your office for that matter.
Option 1: "Of course he should pay!" says known cynic and barrel philosopher @@RANDOMNAME@@ as @@HE@@ makes obscene gestures in direction of the sky. "After all, @@FAITH@@ worships that god that is supposed to be responsible for this, I say, so he should be the one to pay up. Tell those of @@FAITH@@ to call him down or whatever so he can be brought to justice!"
Result: @@FAITH@@'s God is now getting sued all the time.

Option 2: "I can't believe what asinine drivel I'm hearing!" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, the local representative of @@FAITH@@, who has to be held back by your bodyguards from assaulting the barrel philosopher. "I will not stand for this insult of our Faiths god, no more. I ask you to charge this heretic with blasphemy and ensure that noone will ever suggest something like this again!"
Result: The church of @@FAITH@@ is now above the law.

Option 3: "You know, this got me thinkin'..." says @@RANDOMNAME@@, Mad Scientist extraordinaire. "Why are we even worshippin' this god we have little interaction with when we could build a god that could fix all these problems for us? A God-Machine that will ensure our luck and prosperity... And we can even see it!!! Now imagine how effective that would be the converting the @@REGION@@ to @@FAITH@@!?"
Result: Giant God Robots are the new Meta in Holy Wars.

Option 4: The sentence:"My Colleague here has the right idea, but it sounds a tad drab." comes from famous hedonist and gambling addict @@RANDOMNAME@@ who keeps shuffling a deck of cards. "A giant robot god would be effective, but he likely would be boring as he'd be obsessed with doing things perfectly, and where is the fun in that?" he rises up and lays the deck on the table. "I say we make a new @@FAITH@@ with a new god, with Blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the Faith. And the God. And the hookers."
Result: The Adherents of @@Faith@@ are too busy playing Blackjack to complain about worldly matters.
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Postby Verdant Haven » Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:52 am

If you want this to be a practical issue for submission, it has to be an issue that looks at some question the game can simulate. It is true that in real life, several people over the years have filed lawsuits against various gods and religious entities, and that at least one of those lawsuits in the United States involved demanding an injunction against harmful "Acts of God" such as the catastrophe you're referencing. What's notable however is that in the suits that at least got looked at seriously, there were actually other things at play - questions of precedent, legal process, attempts to get money or avoid responsibility for actions, etc. The court process itself is sufficient to discard impractical stuff like "tell god to reveal him/her/itself" - we need an actual request for government action to make this relevant to players.

I'd suggest looking over the real-life examples of things like this and figuring out how to make that work. The game doesn't take a position on the existence or non-existence of any given entity, and so cannot simulate a god showing up to give you money. The game can, however, simulate something like demanding that a judgement be paid by the government in god's stead, or that the money be taken from the professed worshipers of that god, based on some specific argument that lays blame at their feet. Similarly, be careful with assumptions like the presence of blasphemy laws. Those might exist in a theocracy, but not all highly-religious nations are theocracies, and even a theocracy might not prosecute such a thing. Instead of demanding charges under laws that only a tiny number of nations might have, what could a speaker request the government do that is more broadly applicable? Become a theocracy if they aren't already one? Clamp down on free speech so the church has authority over public discourse? The more broadly applicable a choice is, the more nations can be served your issue, and the more players get to enjoy it.

With all the options (and especially the latter ones), it's fine to have some alternative and/or crazy suggestions, but remember what the presented dilemma is. If the dilemma arose because there was a catastrophe and people are trying to assign or avoid divine culpability for that occurrence, try to keep the speakers and options related to that subject. How will GodBot3000(TM) improve the catastrophe situation? How will Ye Olde Church of Blackjack assist people dealing with disasters? It will help if those speakers pitch their ideas in the context of the dilemma at hand.
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Postby Wormfodder Delivery » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:15 am

Thanks for the critique.
I'll do the reading up and make it a bit more clear what the government is supposed to do in there.
Also bring up more the relation with the latter 2.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:42 am

Yeah, not sure how feasible an issue idea like this would be that involves suing a religion's god.
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