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[DRAFT] Complexities

Postby Freedomanica » Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:26 am

Hey everyone! I am somewhat very new to this issue-writing business, but I am hoping I can continue to learn more about what makes issues enjoyable, hard to choose and perhaps author more in the near future! All feedback would be appreciated and encouraged!

Title: Complexities

Description: Ever since the national government has, to a certain extent, delegated its authority to local communities and towns, many estates and complexes have been experiencing heavy taxation and ignorance from local municipalities and governments and as a result, there has been a subtle growing cry amongst families, friends and associates living in these areas that they should have their own government level to serve their own needs.

Validity: Devolution (Government power is substantially delegated to local authorities.)

Option One: "It’s not as crazy as it sounds,” laughs an old granny @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@ as she pats your shoulder upon her arrival in her tight pants and earphones, "The local authorities keep taxing us as if we were the bank! Upon local events, and even decisions taken, they have no regard to us and ignore us as if we are really “elitist”! If we have a local estate or complex council, we can address issues regarding the community and perhaps lower that tax rate, if you know what I am saying, @@LEADER@@."

Effect: The local complex councils have voted to lower tax rates by 75% and the construction of new golf courses.

Option Two: "We need to go further!" states a popularly-known as a deranged, old police man, @@RANDOMMALENAME, "Not only should complexes and estates be granted their level of governance, security villages should get total autonomy and allow the governance of such areas to the security! We will definitely enforce laws much more efficiently and we will be aware of the exact needs of our people and crack down on those desperate, legless scoundrels! But, not only that, maybe you can give us a generous donation of arms and weaponry, just for our protection of course!" as he walks to his security high over-reaching watchtower with a huge canon.

Effect: People are often now scared as to which soil they might step on.

Option Three: "Are you guys not doing this just for power and authority like in Dinosaur Bash?" exclaims softly a young child, @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, “My Daddy taught me that he will always be my one, only Daddykins! Why doesn’t @@NATION@@ have their own one, true Daddy and abolish all these monsters of local authorities that shall devolour my big DADDY!!" as her tired dad walks her, sobbing and tearful in her expression.

Effect: The most prolific of theorists and political analysts alike ponder over political possibilities when watching movies at the national cinema.

Policy: Devolution cancelled.
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Postby Freedomanica » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:43 am

*Bumps*
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:50 pm

How many council estates complexes are able to exercise devolved political power in the real world? Or is this attempted satire =P

@@RANDOMNAME@@ (or RANDOM[MALE/FEMALE] NAME as appropriate) gives you a person's full name, not just their first name. Use that instead :P
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Postby Freedomanica » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:28 am

Tinhampton wrote:How many council estates complexes are able to exercise devolved political power in the real world? Or is this attempted satire =P

@@RANDOMNAME@@ (or RANDOM[MALE/FEMALE] NAME as appropriate) gives you a person's full name, not just their first name. Use that instead :P


First of all I would like to thank you for this great feedback. I shall change the macros as soon as possible, so thanks for clearing that up with me :lol:. This not at all attempted satire, but rather my self-made political theory, but in all seriousness most complexes and estates in the real world only really have jurisdiction over land and the properties, to an extent, available within, however, there are so many geographical boundaries especially regarding local government districts that these places, to a certain extent, act as their own communities and have small legislative bodies that deal with subjects of a mere small manner that the only real difference is that one has fences while the other just has a sign saying, “Now Entering NationStates Ville”. So I don’t see why estates might as well be their own semi-autonomous entities.
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Postby Freedomanica » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:09 am

*Bump* I would like to submit this on the fifteenth of September. I would really appreciate more feedback to improve my draft and make it more enjoyable to answer with hopefully someone in the process being screwed!
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Postby Terrabod » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:34 am

Freedomanica wrote:*Bump* I would like to submit this on the fifteenth of September. I would really appreciate more feedback to improve my draft and make it more enjoyable to answer with hopefully someone in the process being screwed!

Hi there! Nice to see a newbie such as yourself get involved here. However, it's really not a good idea to set an ultimatum like this - we've all experienced that itch of wanting to get your draft submitted as soon as possible, but this is a really quiet period on Got Issues. Feedback will come if you're patient and won't be sped up by setting your own submission date, so please keep that in mind. I have my own draft on the go at the moment and while sitting and waiting for feedback can be tough it's just part of the issue-writing process. It's worth keeping a draft up here for as long as it needs because waiting for and incorporating feedback will make your draft much more likely to make it into the game.

That said, I'll try to take a look at this when I have more time over the next day or so. Please sit tight and don't shoot yourself in the foot by submitting this before it's ready.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:56 pm

Freedomanica wrote:*Bump* I would like to submit this on the fifteenth of September. I would really appreciate more feedback to improve my draft and make it more enjoyable to answer with hopefully someone in the process being screwed!

I would wait until you get more feedback - preferably from an issues author. They give detailed and helpful advice on how your draft is and what you can do to improve on it.
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Postby Terrabod » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:19 pm

Freedomanica wrote:Title: Complexities

I think the title could be better. Best thing I can think of right now is "Inferiority Complex" because of the way housing schemes are apparently feeling like they're being overlooked.

Freedomanica wrote:Description: Ever since the national government has, to a certain extent, delegated its authority to local communities and towns, many estates and complexes have been experiencing heavy taxation and ignorance from local municipalities and governments and as a result, there has been a subtle growing cry amongst families, friends and associates living in these areas that they should have their own government level to serve their own needs.

This seems completely counterintuitive to me. By giving more power to local authorities, governments ensure that deprived areas that are overlooked at a national level receive a greater amount of support. It's very difficult to argue that a national government knows more about which postcodes to target than a local council or regional authority. That's important here because you set it up like the local authorities are treating certain housing estates worse than the national government did in the past - a claim that seems rather dubious. Furthermore, there's no rational reasoning given to explain why local authorities are taxing specific housing estates so heavily - is it just for the sake of it? Shouldn't the response, then, just consist of a slap on the wrist from the national government? Also, what's with local authorities having the power to control taxes in this manner? It might be more believable to have the local authorities withhold resources from specific housing estates instead like not providing road maintenance, waste management services or maintenance for council houses (I think Americans call the latter "social housing").

Freedomanica wrote:Option One: "It’s not as crazy as it sounds,” laughs an old granny @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@ as she pats your shoulder upon her arrival in her tight pants and earphones, "The local authorities keep taxing us as if we were the bank! Upon local events, and even decisions taken, they have no regard to us and ignore us as if we are really “elitist”! If we have a local estate or complex council, we can address issues regarding the community and perhaps lower that tax rate, if you know what I am saying, @@LEADER@@."

So the not-crazy-option solution is to essentially allow blocks of flats to have their own governments that can control tax rates, not just to give power back to the national government ? Is this something that's actually practical in the real world, and if so is it used on a significant scale anywhere? In RL cases, what kind of powers do such housing estates have? Can they control their own tax rates?

Freedomanica wrote:Option Three: "Are you guys not doing this just for power and authority like in Dinosaur Bash?" exclaims softly a young child, @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, “My Daddy taught me that he will always be my one, only Daddykins! Why doesn’t @@NATION@@ have their own one, true Daddy and abolish all these monsters of local authorities that shall devolour my big DADDY!!" as her tired dad walks her, sobbing and tearful in her expression.

Be careful not to sound like you're suggesting the creation of an authoritarian state. Unless that's your intention here, but from the suggested policy I don't think that's the case.

Freedomanica wrote:Policy: Devolution cancelled.

Issue Editors assign stats and policies, you can't suggest them. If this is an option for cancelling devolution, you just have to make it clear in the text.

I guess to summarise I'd say that I find it strange that the "crazy option" is to un-devolve power while the sane option is about letting housing estates have their own governments. You might be able to convince me with some compelling RL examples of when this approach works.

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Outer Sparta wrote:I would wait until you get more feedback - preferably from an issues author. They give detailed and helpful advice on how your draft is and what you can do to improve on it.

I think you mean an Issue Editor - and good shout.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:23 pm

Terrabod wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I would wait until you get more feedback - preferably from an issues author. They give detailed and helpful advice on how your draft is and what you can do to improve on it.

I think you mean an Issue Editor - and good shout.

Lol yeah, that's what I've meant. Even though I'm an issues author, I definitely don't possess the expertise from an editor.
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