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[Draft] Of Archipelagos and Ambassadors

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[Draft] Of Archipelagos and Ambassadors

Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:01 am

Of Archipelagos and Ambassadors
An international court has recently issued a decision declaring that the depopulation of the Maralids, a far-flung Albionian colonial possession converted into a naval base, was illegal and the whole archipelago should be returned to its native inhabitants and given to the small island nation of Wuriteus. You've managed to dodge the reporters asking you to issue a statement on the matter during the day, and are now unwinding at a soiree welcoming foreign diplomats. You turn the corner, and run straight into the spittle-filled argument of the ambassadors of Wuriteusia and Albionia.

1. "The archipelago is our birthright," wails the scrawny Wuriteusian ambassador. "Sure, maybe no living Wuriteusian has set foot there, but our fathers and father's fathers and father's father's fathers lived in Maralids. Don't we deserve our ancestral lands?" Composing himself, he says, "We are a weak nation, and have nothing to offer you. But, please, do what you know is right. Condemn Albionian colonialism and demand that we be returned our rightful lands."

@@LEADER@@ has announced a plan to return @@NATION@@ to its indigenous single-cellular inhabitants.

2. "Nonsense," proclaims the heavy-set Albionian ambassador, easily muscling past the Wuriteusian ambassador. "Why, we might as well give the land back to the Neanderthals then! Their father's father's fathers are dead and gone, and their grasping great-grandsons has as much right to the land as you and me." "Besides, this would be a big blow to national sovereignty and territorial integrity. You've got to come out hard against this if you don't want to embolden your own troublemakers." He then leans in with a knowing smirk, whispering, "Of course, it'd be a real shame if we couldn't export anymore of our fine coffees to you, wouldn't it?" He proffers a mug: "Care for a taste?"

Trade rights are more important than human rights.

3. "Your cognac, sir" says your aide, steering you firmly away from the ambassadors. "Look, if we side with the Albionians, we'll look heartless. Still, we can't take the hit from Albionians if we come out for the Wuriteusians. We'll just say some wishy-washy stuff and say we hope for a negotiated, peaceful compromise."

@@LEADER@@ responds to foreign genocides by calling for both sides to work out a mutually agreeable settlement.

4. Your brother approaches, scraping the guacamole on his off-white shirt greedily into his mouth. "Wurite-where? If I haven't heard of it, it doesn't matter. Actually, do any of those lowly nations outside of our glorious @@PRETITLE@@ even matter? Stop with all this "international cooperation" and "multilateral diplomacy." Let's get all our diplomats home. We don't need to mess with those foreigners anyways."

@@DENONONYM@@ embassies around the world are festooned with cobwebs.


Of Archipelagos and Ambassadors

An international court has declared that the depopulation of the Maralids, a far-flung Albionian colonial possession converted into a naval base, was illegal and ruled that the whole archipelago be returned to the small island nation of Wuriteus. You've evaded the swarms of reporters demanding an official statement on the matter, and are now unwinding at a soiree welcoming foreign diplomats. You turn the corner straight into the flying spittle of the ambassadors of Wuriteusia and Albionia.

1. "The archipelago is our birthright," wails the scrawny Wuriteusian ambassador. "Sure, maybe no living Wuriteusian has set foot there, but our fathers and father's fathers and father's father's fathers lived in Maralids. Don't we deserve our ancestral lands?" Composing himself, he says, "We are a weak nation, and have nothing to offer you. But you know what is right in your heart. Condemn Albionian colonialism and demand that we be returned our rightful lands."

Effect: @@LEADER@@ plans to return @@NATION@@ to its indigenous single-cellular inhabitants.

2. "Nonsense," proclaims the heavy-set Albionian ambassador, easily muscling past the Wuriteusian ambassador. "Why, we might as well give the land back to the Neanderthals then! Their father's father's fathers are dead and gone, and their grasping great-grandsons have as much right to the land as you and me. Besides, this would be a big blow to territorial integrity. If you don't come out hard against this naked land-grab, you'll embolden your own troublemakers." He leans in, murmuring, "Of course, we would show our gratitude. A crate of aged Albionian ale, perhaps?" Proffering a glass, he says, "Have a taste."

Effect: A little ale goes a long way.

3. "Your cognac, sir," sneers your aide, steering you firmly away. "If we come out against the Wuriteusians, we'll look heartless. Still, we can't afford to damage our relationship with the Albionians. We have to walk an inoffensive middle road. I've got a draft statement prepared already." He hands you a slip of paper: "I want to express my most sincere, absolutely heartfelt concern about this grave situation. I extend my completely genuine sympathy to both sides and would simply be struck dumb with uncontrollable delight if a peaceful resolution was reached."

Effect: @@LEADER@@'s idea of an international intervention is mobilizing the entire population to send thoughts and prayers.

4. Your great-great-uncle gently ashes his cigar and carefully adjusts his monocle. "Ah, the folly of the modern world! It is the great truth of nature that some races were made to rule, and others to be ruled. The Wuriteusians were simply not made to rule themselves. And now, they have the sheer audacity, the impertinence, the arrogance, the..." He trails off, staring into the distance. A few moments later, he slams his fist into his palm. "They need a firm hand to put them in their place. Let's take over Wuriteusia and rule it with an iron fist. Long live the @@TYPE@@! All for the good of the Wuriteusians, of course."

Effect: The sun sets a little less on the @@DENONONYMADJECTIVE@@ empire.


Will try and submit to issue contest if I can get enough feedback to improve it in time.
Last edited by Conservative Republic Of Huang on Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:05 pm, edited 7 times in total.
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Postby Lytrovia » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:02 am

As I understand it, you can’t decide how the leader moves.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:05 am

Lytrovia wrote:As I understand it, you can’t decide how the leader moves.

Is the principle of player autonomy that restrictive? I know Issue #700 even has the leader talking. But if the problem is just the line in the initial statement of the issue, I'll probably remove it.
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Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:47 pm

Second draft up.
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"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:06 pm

Firstly... the opportunity exists for @@name@@ to establish a colony as part of the International Incident chain, which would be nice to work in. If nothing else, some of the options seem a bit incongruous if you've already got a pretty strong prior commitment to colonisation.

It's a bit reminiscent of other issues like #980, also covering territorial disputes. It's definitely not an overlap problem, but this issue has a vastly different premise, and it would be better for the rest of the issue to be equally as distinct. I'd suggest more heavily emphasising the depopulation aspect, which should be a bit more central to the issue than is currently written.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:19 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:Firstly... the opportunity exists for @@name@@ to establish a colony as part of the International Incident chain, which would be nice to work in. If nothing else, some of the options seem a bit incongruous if you've already got a pretty strong prior commitment to colonisation.

I'm a little confused on how that might work. Is there any way that I could filter for countries that chose the colonial option in that International Incident chain, to write in a special option for them? I'm not aware of any policy that would relate to colonization.
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Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:23 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:Firstly... the opportunity exists for @@name@@ to establish a colony as part of the International Incident chain, which would be nice to work in. If nothing else, some of the options seem a bit incongruous if you've already got a pretty strong prior commitment to colonisation.

I'm a little confused on how that might work. Is there any way that I could filter for countries that chose the colonial option in that International Incident chain, to write in a special option for them? I'm not aware of any policy that would relate to colonization.

Just write in something like "has/doesn't have a colony" in the option validities, and the editors will figure it out. Us regular schmucks don't know how to write the actual validity code anyway, so they have to rewrite it no matter what we put in - as long as it's understandable, it'll be fine.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:29 pm

SherpDaWerp wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:I'm a little confused on how that might work. Is there any way that I could filter for countries that chose the colonial option in that International Incident chain, to write in a special option for them? I'm not aware of any policy that would relate to colonization.

Just write in something like "has/doesn't have a colony" in the option validities, and the editors will figure it out. Us regular schmucks don't know how to write the actual validity code anyway, so they have to rewrite it no matter what we put in - as long as it's understandable, it'll be fine.

Oh, ok. I always thought you could only do validities using policies. Thanks for the suggestions!
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:34 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:Oh, ok. I always thought you could only do validities using policies. Thanks for the suggestions!

In addition to the policies that can get listed visibly in our nation's pages, and for which we receive notices, there are also some "backstage" ones in the code accessible to Issues Editors: These don't cover everything, but more can be added if the editors consider them worthwhile.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:51 pm

New option added among other revisions.
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say syndicalism now, syndicalism tomorrow, syndicalism forever."
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