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Borderlands of Rojava
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Ex-Nation

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Many of the fans of the former president act like overgrown teenagers. That's not surprising since the former president had the maturity of a 14 year old at best and the vocabulary of a third grader.


You're really insulting to 14 year olds. Even my 5 year olds nephew shows more maturity than Trump on many occasions ;)


I'm sorry, I meant to say 12 year olds.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Too true, the ideologies are very different, social democracy is centrist, socialism is leftist. This guy is just sad because people disagree with him on the internet.


Think of how far right someone has to be to think that providing basic needs to people living in a society is literally Stalin.

Either you’d have to be so far right, that calling them a fascist isn’t really exaggerating it, or they’re just really dumb. The two actually often go hand in hand.
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig again: but already was it impossible to say which was which.”

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Socialist States of Ludistan
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 am

Also, I’m guessing that this guy is an American, so can we just appreciate how he misspelled ‘too’?
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig again: but already was it impossible to say which was which.”

“Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Loeje » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:44 am

NS issues aren't meant to be realistic. This is a game. And, if you don't like them, you can write issues too. I don't see why you would be upset about the issues, anyway, since they don't seem biased toward one side. They just have strange unintended consequences, that's all.
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:53 am

There's this really cool feature called "Dismiss This Issue" found at the bottom of every issue you receive. You're always free to use it on issues you don't like.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Picairn » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:53 am

Oh yeah I dug into the OP's history and found that they've been complaining about "Marxist" issues since August 2020. Several answers in that thread is fairly similar to our replies today. Don't know why they continued to post their screed on General the second time, despite a reminder in that thread. viewtopic.php?p=37795157#p37795157
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Postby The Holy Therns » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:15 am

They're not Marxist, they're Maxist! I can see how you got confused.
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:25 am

NS is not meant to be a serious nation simulator. However, your feedback is valued, so as a courtesy gesture three unmotivated monkeys with a broken typewriter have been assigned to a rewrite.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:54 am

This thread probably belongs in the got issues forum
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:05 am

Epluribus Unum wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Nothing wrong with universal healthcare.



Ask Canadians that wait a Month to see a Doctor and lose there legs because of a blood clot! Allowing the State to determine if you are worthy of being cared for is not freedom!

I have single payer healthcare from the VA. Yes it takes a month to see a GP or to get into the system but it’s fucking free. I don’t pay a dime.

Also I can use the ER if I feel like it and it also doesn’t cost me anything. I actually quite like the single payer system
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:06 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Epluribus Unum wrote:

No! No it actually cannot, Socialist States are the controller and as all Socialist Countries will control! You cannot have Socialized Medicine by the State and not have the State mandate how its used!

Doesn't work that way!

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... -the-world

France has the best healthcare system in the world. Universal healthcare.
Italy has the second-best. Universal healthcare.

The most efficient healthcare system is Germany followed by Switzerland and then the US. Two of the three are UHC
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Postby Tobleste » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:56 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
I'm being serious. Many people thought Trump was just trolling but he basically owns the GOP now. Trolling and republicanism are indistinguishable now.


"We do a little trolling." -Donald Trump

You think I'm joking but he actually said this.


Exactly. The actual political leaders of real life political parties are trolls or, at the very least, hard to distinguish from trolls.
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Postby Dakini » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:34 pm

Epluribus Unum wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Nothing wrong with universal healthcare.



Ask Canadians that wait a Month to see a Doctor and lose there legs because of a blood clot! Allowing the State to determine if you are worthy of being cared for is not freedom!

Canadian here. I usually saw a doctor the same day when I lived there and needed to see one. Walk in clinics are a thing in Canada and you can use services in different provinces without additional insurance. The fact that prescription drugs and dental care aren't covered is terrible, but otherwise healthcare in Canada is good.

Also, since when is NSG the dumping ground for complaining about gameside issues?
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Corporate Police State

Postby Keklystan » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:37 pm

I agree.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:55 pm

Dakini wrote:
Epluribus Unum wrote:

Ask Canadians that wait a Month to see a Doctor and lose there legs because of a blood clot! Allowing the State to determine if you are worthy of being cared for is not freedom!

Canadian here. I usually saw a doctor the same day when I lived there and needed to see one. Walk in clinics are a thing in Canada and you can use services in different provinces without additional insurance. The fact that prescription drugs and dental care aren't covered is terrible, but otherwise healthcare in Canada is good.

Also, since when is NSG the dumping ground for complaining about gameside issues?

I’m really glad that drugs are covered by the VA. Dental isn’t but that’s really not that expensive to get dental insurance
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Postby Atheris » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:00 pm

if you can't handle a bit of satire then you're on the wrong website lol

plus if this is socialist and marxist you really haven't read anything of marx or engels huh
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Galiantus III » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:12 pm

I'm pretty conservative, and I agree with the OP on real life issues. However, this is a satirical game meant to poke fun at everyone's political beliefs. So while capitalist nations are simulated having extreme poverty, socialist nations are simulated having horrific economies. There's not really a way to win. There's always a trade-off involved somehow. You are supposed to suffer the extreme consequences the other side of the political spectrum believes your preferred policies would create.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:47 pm

Title: To many Socialist / Marxist issues!

And here's to many more! Cheers!
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:56 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Title: To many Socialist / Marxist issues!

And here's to many more! Cheers!

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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Diarcesia » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:04 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:There's this really cool feature called "Dismiss This Issue" found at the bottom of every issue you receive. You're always free to use it on issues you don't like.

This. I lost count on how many issue choices I facepalmed because they're all incompatible with what Diarcesia is like.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Kavagrad » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:07 pm

Dismiss the issue, or find a different game. Out of all of the complaints I've seen about issues, this has got to be the most ridiculous.

A site owned by Max "I mostly like corporations" Barry isn't going to be a secret plot to indoctrinate people into being Marxists, for crying out loud.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:10 pm

Definetively not true.

Issue and statwise the game mechanics prefer somewhat maxed out freedoms, including economic ones.

If anything the mechanics are somewhat libertarian biased.

Altough it's entirely possibly to circumvent that.

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Ex-Nation

Postby The Python » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:18 pm

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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Marx Barry » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:48 pm

Kavagrad wrote:Dismiss the issue, or find a different game. Out of all of the complaints I've seen about issues, this has got to be the most ridiculous.

A site owned by Max "I mostly like corporations" Barry isn't going to be a secret plot to indoctrinate people into being Marxists, for crying out loud.



:eyebrow:

I am not actually affiliated with Max or NationStates, but this was too good a moment to pass unnoticed.

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Father Knows Best State

Postby Svarttjern » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:55 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:They're not Marxist, they're Maxist! I can see how you got confused.


This actually made me chuckle.

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