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[THIRD DRAFT] Military Superpower: Yay or Nay?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:31 pm
by Tepylona
Description: Marche Blanche, one of @@NAME@@'s close-knit friends, was invaded by Marche Noire. Marche Blanche has called for @@NAME@@'s military support, but the war will most likely cost thousands of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ lives. Your advisors have met to discuss what to do.

Option 1: "Why, doing this is just a waste of the lives of soldiers!" confesses your distressed Minister of Defense @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Why should we have our military leave our borders for someone else's war, anyway? We should decline the call to arms, and stop giving so much foreign aid for good measure. No reason to support anything but ourselves and our best interests."

Effect Line: @@NAME@@ is often forgotten by other countries

Option 2: "The continued livelihood of our allies *is* our best interests" declaims famed war hero and general @@RANDOMNAME@@. "If we don't get involved in the world, then our nation will fade into obscurity. We should firstly agree to send military support, and then focus the nation towards the defense of our allies and weaker nations. We must work towards global recognition, no matter the cost."

Effect Line: foreign soldiers outnumbered by the enemy hear "@@SLOGAN@@" being shouted by their reinforcements

Option 3: "Pfff! Why do we even need allies, anyway?" smugly remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, one of your advisors who is also a known isolationist. "We don't even need any outside aid, and @@NAME@@ shouldn't have to rely on anyone else for stability or goods. We should have a closed economy, and no foreigners should be allowed to enter the country. That way, nothing and nobody with prevent @@NAME@@ from following it's own interests.

Effect Line: @@NAME@@ has isolated itself from global conflicts

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:08 pm
by Australian rePublic
Who's Brancaland fighting against? Where's the war at? Is it a hot war or a cold war? Who started the war? All of these matter when making such a decision

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:15 am
by Ko-oren
There's a few more details on this war that are needed to make a judgment.

For now, options 1 and 3 are fairly similar. Make sure that as the description develops, these options don't overlap too much. For now, they're different enough.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:32 am
by Tepylona
Thanks for the advice. I'm about to begin working on the second draft, and I'll try to add more depth to the description.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:20 pm
by Westinor
Straight off the bat, I'd like to point out it's unlikely for two nations like Brancaland and the United Federation to go to war (seeing as their IRL counterparts are the USA and Canada, though the reason I'm saying this is not because of some North American comradery but rather the fact that major nations tend not to go to war with each other over oil). The basis of oil would be resolved over tariffs, a trade war, I presume, but it's also likely that Brancaland is not the United Federation's only source of oil, and that a nation would probably not be idiotic enough to go to war lacking a good fuel supply for their military. Premise needs some work, and a better choice of conflict would be between perhaps smaller nations on the international scale, or nations constantly at conflict with each other (the Palisades though that conflict is running its course, Marche Noir and Marche Blanche might work well too)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:26 am
by Candlewhisper Archive
Welcome to the forum.

Your issue, unfortunately, has some flaws which stop it working well.

The title, first of all, is uninspiring and doesn't actually match the premise of the issue. A military superpower is one with the military force or influence necessary to project power on a global scale. The issue you present doesn't relate to that.

Description: Marche Blanche, one of @@NAME@@'s close-knit friends,


This is odd English, colloquially.

One might refer to a "close-knit circle of friends" or a "close-knit group" but not just "close-knit friends", as the adjective refers to relative arrangement / relationship amongst friends, not a category of friends.

was invaded by Marche Noire.


And here we find a statement that needs context.

Without context, how are we meant to make any meaningful decisions?

Marche Blanche has called for @@NAME@@'s military support, but the war will most likely cost thousands of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ lives.


It's just too bland, there's not enough story here

Your advisors have met to discuss what to do.


This is a redundant sentence, that basically just says "This is an issue with options." It can be cut.

I suggest revisiting the core premise and trying to add more to it. Right now it just says "An ally is at war and wants help." That's not a whole issue, you need more. Take a look at issues 808 and 863 for a better idea of ow geopolitical issues can be delivered. That should help you understand how this issue ought to look.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:30 am
by Qqww
Tepylona wrote:Description: Marche Blanche, one of @@NAME@@'s close-knit friends, was invaded by Marche Noire. Marche Blanche has called for @@NAME@@'s military support, but the war will most likely cost thousands of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ lives. Your advisors have met to discuss what to do.

Option 1: "Why, doing this is just a waste of the lives of soldiers!" confesses your distressed Minister of Defense @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Why should we have our military leave our borders for someone else's war, anyway? We should decline the call to arms, and stop giving so much foreign aid for good measure. No reason to support anything but ourselves and our best interests."

Effect Line: @@NAME@@ is often forgotten by other countries

Option 2: "The continued livelihood of our allies *is* our best interests" declaims famed war hero and general @@RANDOMNAME@@. "If we don't get more involved in the world, then our nation will fade into obscurity. We should firstly agree to send military support, and then focus the nation towards the defense of our allies and weaker nations. We must work towards global recognition, no matter the cost."

Effect Line: foreign soldiers outnumbered by the enemy hear "@@SLOGAN@@" being shouted by their reinforcements

Option 3: "Pfff! Why do we even need allies, anyway?" smugly remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, one of your advisors who is also a known isolationist. "We don't even need any outside aid, and @@NAME@@ shouldn't have to rely on anyone else for stability or goods. We should have a closed economy, and no foreigners should be allowed to enter the country. That way, nothing and nobody with prevent @@NAME@@ from following it's own interests.

Effect Line: @@NAME@@ has isolated itself from global conflicts


Looks interesting. I can't wait to see the second draft. I hope you will use some tips from this thread.