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Postby Altmer Dominion » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:38 pm

First winter snowfall came recently, sure to be one of many more.

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[description] The first major snow of the season is always a time of comfort and reflection -- and, of course, the seasonal Blizzard Bonanza, where many @@CAPITAL@@ pet owners compete for the ultimate recognition of their beloved companions' winter wardrobes. With the event taking place at one of the larger city parks, some onlookers remain less than pleased with the aftermath.

[validity] Must be Winter

[option] "I'm supposed to be the one selling snowcones, not standing in one!" exclaims food vendor @@RANDOMNAME@@, knee-deep in a bright yellow pile. "A ton of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ cities have similar events, and they all seem to yield the same result. Nobody wants to be sipping a cup of cocoa while sitting in a smelly, slushy soup -- it's costing me business, ya know! For everyone's sanity, pets really should be banned from public spaces during the wintertime."
[effect] soggy pets are viewed with suspicion

[option] "An unsurprising result," states indigenous leader @@RANDOMNAME@@, fastening a saddle on a docile @@ANIMAL@@. "Residential pets are always poorly trained, living a luxurious life of lethargy. Really, it's unnatural. Look at @@RANDOMFEMALEFIRSTNAME@@ here: she's trained for a particular task, transportation, and she performs it admirably. No accidents here. Unless an animal is employed for a specific purpose, it should be illegal for the common @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ to engage in the slovenly practice of owning just any pet."
[effect] a mass existential crisis has occurred among the nation's many animals

[option] "Hey, let's give the public a shot here," winks fur trapper @@RANDOMNAME@@, who was strictly from commercial. "In my humble view, pet owners just need a little...incentive. How about you let some of us patrol public areas, and if any pet is caught trying to taking a tinkle -- Whap! I hear there's a good aftermarket for domesticated pelts these days. I'm sure that both owners and pets will soon get the message to hold it in just a little while longer."
[effect] yellow snow is the weapon of choice for irate pet owners

[option] "I can't believe what I'm hearing!" shouts socialite @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, whipping a leash around like a lasso. "I never realized there were so many pet-haters here in @@NAME@@. If only they'd meet my little Ausblic 'roo, they'd change their minds in a heartbeat -- no, nevermind that. What we clearly need is a designated pet day each week free of these hateful agitators on public parks. If they don't like to share the land with my precious bundle of joy, they can go find another place to conduct their business."
[effect] children are warned to watch out where the @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ go

[Name] Yellow Snow

[validity] Must be Winter

[description] The first major snow of the season is always a time of comfort and reflection -- and, of course, the seasonal Blizzard Bonanza, where many @@CAPITAL@@ pet owners compete for the ultimate recognition of their beloved companions' winter wardrobes. With the event taking place at one of the larger city parks, some onlookers remain less than pleased with the aftermath.

[option] "I'm supposed to be the one selling snowcones, not standing in one!" exclaims food vendor @@RANDOMNAME@@, knee-deep in a bright yellow pile. "A ton of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ cities have similar events, and they all seem to yield the same result. Nobody wants to be sipping a cup of cocoa while sitting in a smelly, slushy soup -- it's costing me business, ya know! For everyone's sanity, pets really should be banned from public spaces during the wintertime."
[effect] soggy pets are viewed with suspicion

[option] "An unsurprising result," states indigenous leader @@RANDOMNAME@@, fastening a saddle on a docile @@ANIMAL@@. "Residential pets are always poorly trained, living a luxurious life of lethargy. Really, it's unnatural. Look at @@RANDOMFEMALEFIRSTNAME@@ here: she's trained for a particular task, transportation, and she performs it admirably. No accidents here. Unless an animal is employed for a specific purpose, it should be illegal for the common @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ to engage in the slovenly practice of owning just any pet."
[effect] a mass existential crisis has occured among the nation's many animals

[option] "Hey, let's give the public a shot here," winks fur trapper @@RANDOMNAME@@, who was strictly from commercial. "In my humble view, pet owners just need a little...incentive. How about you let some of us patrol public areas, and if any pet is caught trying to taking a tinkle -- Whap! I hear there's a good aftermarket for domesticated pelts these days. I'm sure that both owners and pets will soon get the message to hold it in just a little while longer."
[effect] yellow snow is the weapon of choice for irate pet owners

[option] "I can't believe what I'm hearing!" shouts socialite @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, whipping a leash around like a lasso. "I never realized there were so many pet-haters here in @@NAME@@. If only they'd meet my little Ausblic 'roo, they'd change their minds in a heartbeat -- no, nevermind that. What we clearly need is a designated pet day each week free of these hateful agitators on public parks. If they don't like to share the land with my precious bundle of joy, they can go find another place to conduct their business."
[effect] children are warned to watch out where the @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ go
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:08 pm

As someone who's never grown up with snow, I'm not exactly sure what the problem is here- pets are urinating all over the snow, contaminating, right? Is this a problem in places with snow? How much could it be in places that aren't specifically designated for pets? Also, why is this an issue for national, rather than local government? Also, you don't need to ban all pets in winter, just those in snowy places. Also, human public urination must be banned
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:21 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:As someone who's never grown up with snow, I'm not exactly sure what the problem is here- pets are urinating all over the snow, contaminating, right? Is this a problem in places with snow? How much could it be in places that aren't specifically designated for pets? Also, why is this an issue for national, rather than local government? Also, you don't need to ban all pets in winter, just those in snowy places. Also, human public urination must be banned


Do pets pee in the snow and mess it up? Yes. There was a song about it that some of my classmates or whoever would sing, "Watch out where the huskies go/Don't you eat that yellow snow," which seems to be what the title and one of the effect lines are riffing on.

Wild animals also pee in the snow.

However, you have a point that this might be more of a local issue than a national one.
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Postby Baggieland » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:24 pm

I'm pretty sure there's already an issue about pet poo. Not sure if this one is different enough just because it's set in winter.

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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:29 pm

Altmer Dominion wrote:many @@CAPITAL@@ pet owners compete for the ultimate recognition of their beloved companions' winter wardrobes
Umm, pets with winter wardrobes? What?

Some animals grow conspicious "winter fur", which may be much thicker than their summer fur and sometimes colored white for better camouflage in snow, but the animals most commonly kept as pets (cats and dogs) don't show such drastic changes.

It's more likely that you mean the owners dressing their pets in actual literal clothes, but while that's certainly a thing that some pet owners do, I was also under the impression that only a minority of pets are ever made to wear more than a collar, even in the winter.

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:04 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:As someone who's never grown up with snow, I'm not exactly sure what the problem is here- pets are urinating all over the snow, contaminating, right? Is this a problem in places with snow? How much could it be in places that aren't specifically designated for pets? Also, why is this an issue for national, rather than local government? Also, you don't need to ban all pets in winter, just those in snowy places. Also, human public urination must be banned


Do pets pee in the snow and mess it up? Yes. There was a song about it that some of my classmates or whoever would sing, "Watch out where the huskies go/Don't you eat that yellow snow," which seems to be what the title and one of the effect lines are riffing on.

Wild animals also pee in the snow.

However, you have a point that this might be more of a local issue than a national one.

In some nations, people are allowed (by an option in an existing issue) to pee wherever they choose: Maybe this might be more of a national issue in those nations?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:36 pm

How do governments destinguish between abandoned pets, , stray animals and escaped pets? Why can stray pets go wherever they desire, whilst owned pets must hold it? Also, I would suggest adding an option-doggy public toilets- yes, it's actually a thing

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Altmer Dominion wrote:many @@CAPITAL@@ pet owners compete for the ultimate recognition of their beloved companions' winter wardrobes
Umm, pets with winter wardrobes? What?

Some animals grow conspicious "winter fur", which may be much thicker than their summer fur and sometimes colored white for better camouflage in snow, but the animals most commonly kept as pets (cats and dogs) don't show such drastic changes.

It's more likely that you mean the owners dressing their pets in actual literal clothes, but while that's certainly a thing that some pet owners do, I was also under the impression that only a minority of pets are ever made to wear more than a collar, even in the winter.

My dog's fur is the same in summer and winter. Being an outside dog, she shivers in winter. And shivers and shivers. My family tried and I dressing her in ,clothing, but she somehow managed to take it off. So we got her two or three coats specifically designed to prevent coats from taking them off- she tore them off. She also used to wear a collar, until she took it off a few times and finally broke it, so we got her a collar that she can't take off, and she took it off. So now, we've just given up and cover her with a blanket or on very cold days (somehow, she miraculously lets us do that)

In summer, during the day, she has a cool place to go down to with plenty of shade- it's actually quite cool down there. In summer, we cover her with water to keep her cool, much to her dismay.

She definately and undisputably needs winter clothing, despite her refusal to wear it

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USS Monitor wrote:
Do pets pee in the snow and mess it up? Yes. There was a song about it that some of my classmates or whoever would sing, "Watch out where the huskies go/Don't you eat that yellow snow," which seems to be what the title and one of the effect lines are riffing on.

Wild animals also pee in the snow.

However, you have a point that this might be more of a local issue than a national one.

In some nations, people are allowed (by an option in an existing issue) to pee wherever they choose: Maybe this might be more of a national issue in those nations?

Not what I meant- what I meant was that if I decide to piss against someone's wall, why should my dog be forced to hold it whilst watching me?
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Postby Altmer Dominion » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:34 pm

Made the description more clear re: 'winter wardrobes'. The local focus did cross my mind, which is why the first speaker mentions the event is a common tradition across @@NAME@@. Dunno about extending the narrative to human urination, though. :unsure:

Baggieland wrote:I'm pretty sure there's already an issue about pet poo. Not sure if this one is different enough just because it's set in winter.

At a glance, there's a pigeon poo issue, which is reasonably different in focus. Which one did you have in mind?
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Postby Fontenais » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:42 am

Altmer Dominion wrote:
Baggieland wrote:I'm pretty sure there's already an issue about pet poo. Not sure if this one is different enough just because it's set in winter.

At a glance, there's a pigeon poo issue, which is reasonably different in focus. Which one did you have in mind?

I think the issue about pet poo is 1007.

The description is about a large mess left behind from a large dog show, but the options seem to be addressing dog urination in day-to-day life (just out on walks, not necessarily from a dog show). While I imagine a dog show would leave a large mess, it doesn't snow where I live, so I don't understand is normal dog urination in snow a minor inconvenience or a big issue?

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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:21 am

Fontenais wrote:While I imagine a dog show would leave a large mess, it doesn't snow where I live, so I don't understand is normal dog urination in snow a minor inconvenience or a big issue?


It's not a huge deal. Car exhaust turning the snow gray and grimy is usually worse than the animal pee.
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Postby Altmer Dominion » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:46 pm

From what it seems, consensus appears to be that the topic isn't quite compelling enough.
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