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Postby Litauengrad » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:01 pm

Description: Following the midnight release of the newest album by @@DEMONYM@@-nationalist metal band Exterminate Bigtopia, the number of hate crimes against Bigtopians has spiked threefold. After an incident at @@CAPITAL@@ Technical School yesterday where a Bigtopian teacher was burned in effigy for being "too foreign", the public outcry has grown to deafening levels.
Validity: Youth Rebelliousness greater than zero

Option 1: "Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," sobs @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to extremist music like Biologically Superior Werewolf from Blackacre at all hours of the night! Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban all racist music, especially if teenagers are listening to it."

Fallout: @@DEMONYM@@ police officers set up illegal music stings in school lunchrooms

Option 2: Your teenage niece, who is wearing an Exterminate Bigtopia tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "This is exactly why everyone's mad at you!" she exclaims. "Who cares if we say some mean things about Bigtopians? Last time I checked, @@NAME@@ still had freedom of speech! Leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to." Must not have autocracy

Fallout: “Day of the Rope” is the top song of the summer

Option 3: Your teenage niece, who is wearing an Exterminate Bigtopia tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "This is exactly why everyone's mad at you!" she exclaims. "Who cares if we say some mean things about Bigtopians? @@NAME@@ might not have freedom of speech, but you can't freak about every little thing we say! Leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to." Must have autocracy

Fallout: “Day of the Rope” is the top song of the summer

Option 4: Your mother totters over, cane in hand, to offer you a fresh bowl of chicken soup. "Now dearie," she says,"what those boys did yesterday wasn’t very nice. But the news told me just yesterday that most Bigtopians are criminals, and it is true that they've taken quite a lot of @@DEMONYM@@ jobs. Maybe we shouldn't be letting those sort of people live with us."

Fallout: glass sales in @@CAPITAL@@ are at an all-time high
Description: After your niece was filmed burning the @@NAME@@ flag and screaming "Down with @@LEADER@@!", her parents have drawn your attention to the music popular in her peer group. It seems many of these artists promote values opposed to that of @@NAME@@, with some even calling for violent uprisings. With whispers of youth alienation in the air, your Minister of Problem Solving has assembled a group of alleged experts with strong opinions about the matter.

Validity: Youth Rebelliousness greater than zero


Option 1: "Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," meekly mutters @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to godless, secular music like God is a Midget and Separation of Church and Sense. Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban any music that doesn't support @@RELIGION@@ and traditional values." Must have theocracy

Fallout: @@DEMONYM@@ police officers set up illegal music stings in school lunchrooms

Other options deleted to conserve post space


Option 6: "A simple ban does not go far enough," replies @@RANDOMNAME@@, a shadowy figure who seems to be in all of your meetings. "I have it on good authority that this music was introduced to @@NAME@@'s youth by agents of East Lebatuck. Or was it Blackacre? Anyway, we need to be proactive. Let my agents "investigate" the purveyors of this filth and we'll ensure that the problem is fixed." Must not have socialism

Fallout: Missing teenagers are reportedly at summer camp

Option 7: "A simple ban does not go far enough," replies @@RANDOMNAME@@, a shadowy figure who seems to be in all of your meetings. "I have it on good authority that this music was introduced to @@NAME@@'s youth by agents of the United Federation. Or was it Blackacre? Anyway, we need to be proactive. Let my agents "investigate" the purveyors of this filth and we'll ensure that the problem is fixed." Must have socialism

Fallout: Missing teenagers are reportedly at summer camp


Option 8: "This ain't nothin but a problem of substitution," offers United Federation ambassador Jim Harpins."In my country, President Hawkins had his campaign staff whip up a couple little ditties about freedom and patriotism and such, and then did a little quid pro quo with the radio industry. Now it's all you can hear these days! The kids learn obedience and trust in our Constitution, and they certainly don't go burnin' our flag. Y'all should think about doin' the same." Must not have socialism, autocracy, or theocracy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 9: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers East Lebatuckese ambassador Fedorich Stateyev. "In my country, all music is created by the Composer's Union and is vetted by the People's Commissariat of Culture to keep our children from consuming subversive, anti-proletarian messages. They learn obedience and trust in the People's Revolution, and they certainly don't burn our flag. Our Comrades in @@NAME@@ would be wise to do the same." Must have socialism policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 10: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador YuSu Lo. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they certainly do not burn our flag. Those wise enough to seek Heaven's Mandate should do the same." Must have theocracy policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 11: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador YuSu Lo. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they certainly do not burn our flag. Your government would be wise to do the same." Must have Autocracy policy Must not have socialism policy, Must not have theocracy policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@


Option 12: Your niece glares at you from across your office, where she has sat ignored for at least half an hour. "How about you leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to. Y'know, free speech and all that," she mutters.

Fallout: Assassinate all Politicians is the top song of the summer


Description: After your niece was caught with several cans of gasoline and the plans to your office, she was taken into custody by law enforcement. It seems she was inspired to attempt this act by the music popular in her peer group; many of these artists promote values opposed to that of @@NAME@@, with some even calling for violent uprisings. With whispers of youth alienation in the air, your Minister of Problem Solving has assembled a group of alleged experts with strong opinions about the matter.

Validity: Youth Rebelliousness greater than zero



Option 1: "Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," meekly mutters @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to godless, secular music like God is a Midget and Separation of Church and Sense. Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban any music that doesn't support @@RELIGION@@ and traditional values." Must have theocracy

Fallout: @@DEMONYM@@ police officers set up illegal music stings in school lunchrooms

Other options deleted to conserve post space


Option 6: "A simple ban does not go far enough," replies @@RANDOMNAME@@, a shadowy figure who seems to be in all of your meetings. "I have it on good authority that this music was introduced to @@NAME@@'s youth by agents of East Lebatuck. Or was it Blackacre? Anyway, we need to be proactive. Let my agents "investigate" the purveyors of this filth and we'll ensure that the problem is fixed." Must not have socialism

Fallout: Missing teenagers are reportedly at summer camp

Option 7: "A simple ban does not go far enough," replies @@RANDOMNAME@@, a shadowy figure who seems to be in all of your meetings. "I have it on good authority that this music was introduced to @@NAME@@'s youth by agents of the United Federation. Or was it Blackacre? Anyway, we need to be proactive. Let my agents "investigate" the purveyors of this filth and we'll ensure that the problem is fixed." Must have socialism

Fallout: Missing teenagers are reportedly at summer camp


Option 8: "This ain't nothin but a problem of substitution," offers United Federation ambassador Jim Harpins."In my country, President Hawkins had his campaign staff whip up a couple little ditties about freedom and patriotism and such, and then did a little quid pro quo with the radio industry. Now it's all you can hear these days! The kids learn obedience and trust in our Constitution, and they certainly don't go thinkin' about lefty politics. Y'all should think about doin' the same." Must not have socialism, autocracy, or theocracy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 9: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers East Lebatuckese ambassador Fedorich Stateyev. "In my country, all music is created by the Composer's Union and is vetted by the People's Commissariat of Culture to keep our children from consuming subversive, anti-proletarian messages. They learn obedience and trust in the People's Revolution, and they remain loyal to Marxism even to death. Our Comrades in @@NAME@@ would be wise to do the same." Must have socialism policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 10: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador YuSu Lo. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they remain loyal to him no matter what. Those wise enough to seek Heaven's Mandate should do the same." Must have theocracy policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 11: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador YuSu Lo. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they remain loyal to him no matter what. Your government would be wise to do the same." Must have Autocracy policy Must not have socialism policy, Must not have theocracy policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@


Option 12: Your niece glares at you from across your office, where she has sat ignored for at least half an hour. "How about you leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to. Y'know, free speech and all that," she mutters.

Fallout: Assassinate all Politicians is the top song of the summer




Description: After you were attacked by a gang of teenage thugs while leaving the @@CAPITAL@ Technical School on @@NAME@@ is Great Day, interrogation revealed they were inspired by the violent political band We Hate @@LEADER@@. It seems that much of the music popular among today's youth promote values opposed to that of @@NAME@@, with many artists calling for violent revolution and your death. With whispers of youth alienation in the air, your Minister of Problem Solving has assembled a group of alleged experts with strong opinions about the matter.

Validity: Youth Rebelliousness greater than zero


Option 1: "Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," mutters @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to godless, secular music like No Gods, No Managers and Separation of Church and Sense. Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban any music that doesn't support @@RELIGION@@ and traditional values." Must have theocracy

Fallout: @@DEMONYM@@ police officers set up illegal music stings in school lunchrooms

Other options deleted to preserve post space


Option 6: "A simple ban does not go far enough," replies @@RANDOMNAME@@, a shadowy figure who seems to be in all of your meetings. "I have it on good authority that this music was introduced to @@NAME@@'s youth by agents of East Lebatuck. Or was it Blackacre? Anyway, we need to be proactive. Let my agents "investigate" the purveyors of this filth and we'll ensure that the problem is fixed." Must not have socialism

Fallout: Missing teenagers are reportedly at summer camp

Option 7: "A simple ban does not go far enough," replies @@RANDOMNAME@@, a shadowy figure who seems to be in all of your meetings. "I have it on good authority that this music was introduced to @@NAME@@'s youth by agents of the United Federation. Or was it Blackacre? Anyway, we need to be proactive. Let my agents "investigate" the purveyors of this filth and we'll ensure that the problem is fixed." Must have socialism

Fallout: Missing teenagers are reportedly at summer camp


Option 8: "This ain't nothin but a problem of substitution," offers United Federation ambassador Jim Harpins."In my country, President Hawkins had his campaign staff whip up a couple little ditties about freedom and patriotism and such, and then did a little quid pro quo with the radio industry. Now it's all you can hear these days! The kids learn obedience and trust in our Constitution, and they certainly don't go thinkin' about lefty politics. Y'all should think about doin' the same." Must not have socialism, autocracy, or theocracy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 9: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers East Lebatuckese ambassador Fedorich Stateyev. "In my country, all music is created by the Composer's Union and is vetted by the People's Commissariat of Culture to keep our children from consuming subversive, anti-proletarian messages. They learn obedience and trust in the People's Revolution, and they remain loyal to Marxism even to death. Our Comrades in @@NAME@@ would be wise to do the same." Must have socialism policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 10: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador Yuso Lo. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they remain loyal to him no matter what. Those wise enough to seek Heaven's Mandate should do the same." Must have theocracy policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@

Option 11: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador Yuso Lo. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they remain loyal to him no matter what. Your government would be wise to do the same." Must have Autocracy policy Must not have socialism policy, Must not have theocracy policy

Fallout: State- sponsored music has struck a sour note with the citizens of @@NAME@@


Option 12: Your teenage niece, who is wearing a We Hate @@LEADER@@ tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "You just can't deal with criticism, can you?" she exclaims. "How about you leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to!"
Fallout: Assassinate all Politicians is the top song of the summer




Description: After you were attacked by a gang of teenage thugs while leaving the @@CAPITAL@ Technical School, interrogation revealed they were inspired by the violent political band Exterminate Bigtopia, a prominent member of the @@DEMONYM@@-nationalist metal scene. Bands like Exterminate Bigtopia are popular among young people and promote attacks against non-@@DEMONYM@@ citizens, allegedly intending to culminate in your assassination and a coup of the government. Your Head of Security has convened a panel of alleged experts to deal with the matter, while your mother has convened a warm cup of soup for your aching head.

Validity: Youth Rebelliousness greater than zero


Option 1: "Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," sobs @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to extremist music like Biologically Superior Werewolf from Blackacre at all hours of the night! Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban any racist music that comes into our dear nation."

Fallout: @@DEMONYM@@ police officers set up illegal music stings in school lunchrooms

Option 2: "This is nothing but a problem of substitution," offers Dàguó ambassador Lo Knot. "In my country, our Holy Emperor, long may he live, ordered the lesser Eunuchs to create soothing hymns praising his name. All Dàguó children are required to listen to these hymns hourly. They learn obedience and trust in our Holy Emperor, long may he live, and they remain loyal to him even to death. Those wise enough to seek Heaven's Mandate should do the same."

Fallout: state- sponsored music has struck a sour note

Option 3: Your teenage niece, who is wearing an Exterminate Bigtopia tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "This is exactly why everyone's mad at you!" she exclaims. "Who cares if we say some mean things about Bigtopians? Last time I checked, @@NAME@@ still had freedom of speech! Leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to." Must not have autocracy

Fallout: Assassinate all Politicians is the top song of the summer

Option 4: Your teenage niece, who is wearing an Exterminate Bigtopia tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "This is exactly why everyone's mad at you!" she exclaims. "Who cares if we say some mean things about Bigtopians? @@NAME@@ might not have freedom of speech, but you can't react to every little thing we say! Leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to." Must have autocracy

Fallout: Assassinate all Politicians is the top song of the summer

Option 5: Your mother totters over, cane in hand, to offer you a fresh bowl of soup. "Now dearie," she says," it wasn't very nice of those boys to try and hurt you. But the news told me just yesterday that most Bigtopians are criminals, and it is true that they've taken quite a lot of @@DEMONYM@@ jobs. Maybe we shouldn't be letting those sort of people live with us."

Fallout: glass sales in @@CAPITAL@@ are at an all-time high


Description: Following the midnight release of the newest album by @@DEMONYM@@-nationalist metal band Exterminate Bigtopia, the number of hate crimes against Bigtopians has spiked threefold. After an incident at @@CAPITAL@@ Technical School yesterday involving Tiki Torches, dissected frogs, and three hundred and eleven white lilies, the public outcry has grown to deafening levels.
Validity: Youth Rebelliousness greater than zero

Option 1: "Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," sobs @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to extremist music like Biologically Superior Werewolf from Blackacre at all hours of the night! Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban all racist music, especially if teenagers are listening to it."

Fallout: @@DEMONYM@@ police officers set up illegal music stings in school lunchrooms

Option 2: Your teenage niece, who is wearing an Exterminate Bigtopia tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "This is exactly why everyone's mad at you!" she exclaims. "Who cares if we say some mean things about Bigtopians? Last time I checked, @@NAME@@ still had freedom of speech! Leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to." Must not have autocracy

Fallout: “Day of the Rope” is the top song of the summer

Option 3: Your teenage niece, who is wearing an Exterminate Bigtopia tshirt, elbows her way into your office. "This is exactly why everyone's mad at you!" she exclaims. "Who cares if we say some mean things about Bigtopians? @@NAME@@ might not have freedom of speech, but you can't freak about every little thing we say! Leave us alone and let us listen to what we want to." Must have autocracy

Fallout: “Day of the Rope” is the top song of the summer

Option 4: Your mother totters over, cane in hand, to offer you a fresh bowl of chicken soup. "Now dearie," she says,"what those boys did yesterday wasn’t very nice. But the news told me just yesterday that most Bigtopians are criminals, and it is true that they've taken quite a lot of @@DEMONYM@@ jobs. Maybe we shouldn't be letting those sort of people live with us."

Fallout: glass sales in @@CAPITAL@@ are at an all-time high
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Postby Sensorland » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:43 pm

This looks really nice. I'm impressed by all the effort you've put in. One thing: it's "Eunuch".
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Postby Litauengrad » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:33 pm

Sensorland wrote:This looks really nice. I'm impressed by all the effort you've put in. One thing: it's "Eunuch".


Hey, thank you for the compliment! "Yunuch" was my bad attempt at making a joke. I will probably delete that off the second draft but thank you for pointing it out!

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:38 pm

This premise isn't the most distinctive. We have other variants of "people are listening to controversial music" and "people are criticizing the government."
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Postby Litauengrad » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:25 pm

USS Monitor wrote:This premise isn't the most distinctive. We have other variants of "people are listening to controversial music" and "people are criticizing the government."


Thank you for your feedback. I completed a second draft with a different description.

I'm aware at least of issue 42, where parents want to ban one specific genre for vague reasons. I wanted to write an issue based off the controversy surrounding National Socialist Black Metal, but expanded it to include all "dissident music" as there are some nations that wouldn't be bothered by racist music (and it seems that this game tries to steer clear of issues of race). What does a nation do when its most youth are not only engaging with culture totally opposed to its values, but engaging in violence because of it? To me that's the question behind this draft, not necessarily criticism of the government or the music in and of itself.

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Postby Fontenais » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:16 pm

My first thought is that there are way too many doppelgangers

I have only ever seen doppelgangers used such as:
1a 'throw these people in prison' [prisons allowed]
1b 'give these people a fine' [prisons not allowed]
Not, to advocate different perspectives, as in this issue

Anyway, in option 1, for example, the speakers are all advocating the same point, ‘ban music that isn’t in line with the national beliefs’. But, in the description, that’s not even the problem, the problem is that certain music apparently inspired leader's niece to commit a crime. I think option 1 should just be one option, ‘ban music that glorifies or normalises youth crime’ says concerned parent/ police officer.

I have similar concerns with options 2 and 3

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:52 am

What does she plan to do with the petroleum?
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Postby Litauengrad » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:33 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:What does she plan to do with the petroleum?


Set @@Leader@@‘s office on fire. Do you think that’s insufficiently clear?

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:43 pm

Litauengrad wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:What does she plan to do with the petroleum?


Set @@Leader@@‘s office on fire. Do you think that’s insufficiently clear?

It could help if you made it clearer
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Postby Litauengrad » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:46 pm

Completed draft three based on feedback. Thanks to everyone who has commented so far!

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Postby Litauengrad » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:11 pm

Probably will submit this on Friday afternoon. Bumping to ask for any feedback before submission.

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:41 pm

To be frank, the "doppelgangering" of the issue options is still a bit ridiculous. You could easily cut out every doppelganger from Option One by doing the following:
"Look at what this awful racket has done to our children," mutters @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, leader of Matrons Against Malicious Music. She holds up a partially finished crochet of @@NAME@@'s national flag. "Our family are proud @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ and have been since we escaped Brasilistan. But now my little @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ is listening to unpatriotic music like I Hate @@NAME@@ and The @@TYPE@@ Will Fall. Keep this evil nonsense out of my baby's ears- ban any music that doesn't support our glorious future!"

My changes are underlined.
This is non-specific, it doesn't require Theocracy, Autocracy, Socialism, Capitalism, or anything similar. Similar deal with Option Two: make East Lebatuk or United Federation say Daguo instead. Daguo has been established as hostile to @@NAME@@ whether capitalist or socialist, so that doppelganger can be cut as well. Even Option 3 should have some doppelgangers cut out. This is really just a 4-option issue, but with doppelgangering, you've written 12.

Also, as USS Monitor said,
USS Monitor wrote:We have other variants of "people are listening to controversial music" and "people are criticizing the government."

There needs to be something more distinctive that makes this issue relevant among the issues that already exist.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:55 pm

With the doppelgangers, are they there because they are needed to tell the story properly, or are they there because you think it'll be fun for issues hunters to track them all down?

You should not have doppelgangers just for the sake of having doppelgangers because it is more material for us to review and edit if we decide to use the draft. Doppelgangers are less work to edit than distinct options, but we still need to make sure they are set up correctly and free from typos. And it's just distracting to have a large wall of text when we are working with it backstage. (Or maybe my attention span is short.)
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Postby Litauengrad » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:21 pm

Thank you again to everyone who commented. I tried to take a more direct angle with this draft, and decreased the number of doppelgangers. I love them, but I do want to keep the mod's job as easy as possible. I have no idea if this draft is appropriate for the game but I suppose we'll find out soon.

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Postby Fontenais » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:33 pm

Litauengrad wrote:Description: After you were attacked by a gang of teenage thugs

In issue 257 I picked the option to hire bodyguards and yet Leader was attacked by teenagers?
Litauengrad wrote:interrogation revealed they were inspired by the violent political band Exterminate Bigtopia, a prominent member of the @@DEMONYM@@-nationalist metal scene. Bands like Exterminate Bigtopia are popular among young people and promote attacks against non-@@DEMONYM@@ citizens, allegedly intending to culminate in your assassination and a coup of the government.

That escalated quickly. The validity is based on youth rebelliousness, but despite what 'The Hunger Games' or 'Divergent' might have you believe, angsty teenagers are hardly a serious threat in relation to overthrowing the government
Litauengrad wrote:your mother has convened a warm cup of soup for your aching head.

You can convene a metting but you can't convene a cup of soup

Edit: About making your issue more distinctive, I don't know if this has been covered or not, but perhaps you could take inspiration from the 'West Memphis Three' case (look it up)
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:11 am

Glad that you took the decision to strip out those doppelgangers.

The issue as a whole remains somewhat waffly.

This opening, for example...

Description: After you were attacked by a gang of teenage thugs while leaving the @@CAPITAL@ Technical School, interrogation revealed they were inspired by the violent political band Exterminate Bigtopia, a prominent member of the @@DEMONYM@@-nationalist metal scene. Bands like Exterminate Bigtopia are popular among young people and promote attacks against non-@@DEMONYM@@ citizens, allegedly intending to culminate in your assassination and a coup of the government. Your Head of Security has convened a panel of alleged experts to deal with the matter, while your mother has convened a warm cup of soup for your aching head.


...ought to be around 50% shorter, and could easily be so without losing any important information or humour.

It's not all negative here though. I think the issue -- despite mild overlaps with other music censorship issues -- has a unique enough spin to be used, and the writing quality and humour here is of good quality throughout.

Make this one shorter all over, and you'll have something publishable.
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Postby Litauengrad » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:27 am

Completed Draft Five, working on conciseness. Hopefully this is the one!

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:04 pm

Tiki Torches, dissected frogs, and three hundred and eleven white lilies,


Can you explain this reference to me?
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Postby Litauengrad » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:52 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Tiki Torches, dissected frogs, and three hundred and eleven white lilies,


Can you explain this reference to me?



Tiki torches: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... y.amp.html

Dissected frogs: (scroll to “alt-right association”)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyo ... e-the-frog

White lilies: https://www.adl.org/hate-symbols?cat_id%5B152%5D=152

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Postby Fontenais » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:16 pm

Litauengrad wrote:Tiki Torches, dissected frogs, and three hundred and eleven white lilies

I think these alt-right references are rather obscure and they would just be confusing everyone

Also, can you explain the title to me?

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Postby Litauengrad » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:04 am

Completed Draft six, mostly changing the description.

Fontenais wrote:
Litauengrad wrote:Tiki Torches, dissected frogs, and three hundred and eleven white lilies

I think these alt-right references are rather obscure and they would just be confusing everyone

Also, can you explain the title to me?


A "fifth column" is a subversive element in a society, usually foreign but sometimes ideological.

The fifth chord is used heavily in metal and rock music.

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Postby Fontenais » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:05 pm


Thanks, I see what you mean now. But I had no idea what the title meant before, and I feel like other people might have the same problem. Do you think you could come up with are more obvious title?

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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:22 pm

Fontenais wrote:

Thanks, I see what you mean now. But I had no idea what the title meant before, and I feel like other people might have the same problem. Do you think you could come up with are more obvious title?


I don't mind the title. I've heard "5th column" before and I know that music has chords.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:51 am

It's a great title.
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