(DRAFT) A bloodless calculation

[Roliganistan]

Johnny Elton is complaining on various media that he was refused the opportunity to donate blood because he is homosexual.

(option) "It's neither fair nor reasonable. I volunteered to donate blood and was made to fill out a long form asking a lot of embarrassing questions, after which they sent me home, telling me I was 'a high risk category'. But I'm not a category! I'm an individual, and I want to be treated as one. I've been healthy my entire life. Please let me make my humble contribution to society by donating blood."
(effect) The problem of blood shortages has been solved, as there are ever more donors and a ever fewer people seeking transfusions.

(option) "I regret Mr Elton's hurt feelings", begins Tom Mice, your Minister of Public Health, " but the truth is that gay men are more than 40 times as likely as their hetero counterparts to be carrying VODAIS. VODAIDS is an incurable, fatal disease carried by blood. And it is impossible to detect during the incubation phase.
(effect) People feel wholly justified in holding their prejudices, now that they have been endorsed by respected institutions on "scientific grounds".

(option) "Johnny Elton is right!" interjects civil rights crusader, Martin Luther Gandhi during a rally of his organisation 'Reprieve International'. "If we begin excluding people based on categories, where do we stop?" . "Why not refuse housing to Maxtopian families because people say they like loud parties, or refuse to hire Brancalandians because they are said to be lazy. I insist that blood banks be made to accept all volunteers; drug addicts, homeless people, lepers, llamas, and anyone with a sexually transmitted diseases or bad breath, unless the blood bank can demonstrate beyond any doubt that their blood is certain to be toxic."
(effect) People bleed to death, rather than playing Maxtopian roulette at the local blood bank.

[USS Monitor]

FYI: There is an unpublished draft on this topic that Sanctaria was working on.

[Bears Armed]

2. "I regret (Name's) hurt feelings", begins Tom Mice, your Minister of Public Health, " but the truth is that gay men are 40 times as likely as their hetero counterparts to be carrying AIDS, not to mention beads, seeds, deeds and bad breath. AIDS is a fatal disease carried by blood, and for which there is no cure. And neither is there is any known way to detect its presence during the incubation phase.

In NS issues, according to precedent, the disease mentioned is probably called ''VODAIS' instead.

[Roliganistan]

FYI: There is an unpublished draft on this topic that Sanctaria was working on.

Hi and thanks for commenting!
I've searched the "Got Issues?" forum for posts from Sanctaria, but only found one, unrelated post.
Maybe his contribution was withdrawn?
I'd be grateful if you could give more precise instructions on how to find the similar issue. Ideally, a link.
Best regards,
Rolly

[Roliganistan]

2. "I regret (Name's) hurt feelings", begins Tom Mice, your Minister of Public Health, " but the truth is that gay men are 40 times as likely as their hetero counterparts to be carrying AIDS, not to mention beads, seeds, deeds and bad breath. AIDS is a fatal disease carried by blood, and for which there is no cure. And neither is there is any known way to detect its presence during the incubation phase.

In NS issues, according to precedent, the disease mentioned is probably called ''VODAIS' instead.

OK. Thanks!

[USS Monitor]

FYI: There is an unpublished draft on this topic that Sanctaria was working on.

Hi and thanks for commenting!
I've searched the "Got Issues?" forum for posts from Sanctaria, but only found one, unrelated post.
Maybe his contribution was withdrawn?
I'd be grateful if you could give more precise instructions on how to find the similar issue. Ideally, a link.
Best regards,
Rolly

It's backstage. Might be something that was submitted without drafting on the forum.

[Roliganistan]

Hi and thanks for commenting!
I've searched the "Got Issues?" forum for posts from Sanctaria, but only found one, unrelated post.
Maybe his contribution was withdrawn?
I'd be grateful if you could give more precise instructions on how to find the similar issue. Ideally, a link.
Best regards,
Rolly

It's backstage. Might be something that was submitted without drafting on the forum.

Is it your view I should give up on this proposal, then?

[Australian rePublic]

Option 3- accusing people who don't want AIDs in donated blood supply of denying people whose cooking smells is why we can't have nice things. Either case, why no compulsory HIV tests?

[Miss Bad Life Choices]

And there is any known way to detect its presence during the incubation phase.

Do you mean there isn't any way to detect its presence during the incubation period?

[Roliganistan]

And there is any known way to detect its presence during the incubation phase.

Do you mean there isn't any way to detect its presence during the incubation period?

Yes!
And this is my answer to Australia rePublic as well.
Thanks for pointing it out.
Rolly

[Roliganistan]

Thanks to everyone who wrote. But what happens now?
I'm told there may be a similar proposal, to which I am denied access.
Does that make this a dead letter?

[Servilis]

(Balderdised NAME of well-known gay celebrity to be decided) is complaining on various media that he was refused the opportunity to donate blood because he is homosexual.

1. "It's neither fair nor reasonable. I volunteered to donate blood and was made to fill out a long form asking a lot of embarrassing questions, after which they sent me home, telling me I was 'a high risk category'. But I'm not a category! I'm an individual. And I've been healthy my entire life. Please let me make my humble contribution to society by donating blood."

2. "I regret (Name's) hurt feelings", begins Tom Mice, your Minister of Public Health, " but the truth is that gay men are more than 40 times as likely as their hetero counterparts to be carrying VODAIS, not to mention bad breath. VODAIDS is an incurable, fatal disease carried by blood. And it is impossible to detect during the incubation phase.

Look, suppose (Name) were involved in an auto accident and needed a transfusion. Would he rather the transfusion were carried out by a blood bank that makes an effort to screen out high risk individuals, or would he rather play Maxtopian roulette with an incurable disease?"

3. "(NAME) is right. If we begin excluding people based on categories, where do we stop?" objects Martin Luther Gandhi. "Why not refuse housing to Maxtopian families because people say they like loud parties, or refuse to hire Brancalandians because they are said to be lazy. I insist that blood banks be made to accept all volunteers; drug addicts, homeless people, recovered victims of sexually transmitted diseases, whatever, unless the blood bank can demonstrate beyond doubt that their blood is infected."

I can't wait for this to be approved.

[USS Monitor]

Thanks to everyone who wrote. But what happens now?
I'm told there may be a similar proposal, to which I am denied access.
Does that make this a dead letter?

It's possible that the other draft will get bogged down, or we'll decide we like yours better, or something like that. But there's a significant chance of your draft being rendered redundant and deleted for overlap, and I thought I should warn you about that.

I'd probably put this on hold.

[Roliganistan]

Thanks to everyone who wrote. But what happens now?
I'm told there may be a similar proposal, to which I am denied access.
Does that make this a dead letter?

It's possible that the other draft will get bogged down, or we'll decide we like yours better, or something like that. But there's a significant chance of your draft being rendered redundant and deleted for overlap, and I thought I should warn you about that.

I'd probably put this on hold.

Well, I could have wished for something else, but I certainly appreciate the advice!
Are you suggesting that I put this on hold, or are you saying that you intend to put it on hold?
How do the decision maker track on-hold proposals? How do they go about seeing these aren't forgotten?
Sorry to have so many questions. I've tried several times to get an Issue through. It's hard not to feel discouraged.

[Roliganistan]

For my issue I need the name of a well recognised male homosexual. Perhaps you could suggest something?
It would be best for the purpose of the issue if the person is not flagrantly gay.
Thanks!

[Roliganistan]

(Balderdised NAME of well-known gay celebrity to be decided) is complaining on various media that he was refused the opportunity to donate blood because he is homosexual.

(option) "It's neither fair nor reasonable. I volunteered to donate blood and was made to fill out a long form asking a lot of embarrassing questions, after which they sent me home, telling me I was 'a high risk category'. But I'm not a category! I'm an individual and i want to be treated like one. I've been healthy my entire life. Please let me make my humble contribution to society by donating blood."
(effect) Blood shortages are a thing of the past, as withdrawals have gone way down, while donations have gone up.

(option) "I regret (Name's) hurt feelings", begins Tom Mice, your Minister of Public Health, " but the truth is that gay men are more than 40 times as likely as their hetero counterparts to be carrying VODAIS, not to mention bad breath. VODAIDS is an incurable, fatal disease carried by blood. And it is impossible to detect during the incubation phase.

Look, suppose (Name) were involved in an auto accident and needed a transfusion. Would he rather the transfusion were carried out by a blood bank that makes an effort to screen out high risk individuals, or would he rather play Maxtopian roulette with an incurable disease?"
(effect) People feel righteous about their prejudices, now that they have been institutionalised by respected organisations.

(option) "(NAME) is right. If we begin excluding people based on categories, where do we stop?" objects Martin Luther Gandhi. "Why not refuse housing to Maxtopian families because people say they like loud parties, or refuse to hire Brancalandians because they are said to be lazy. I insist that blood banks be made to accept all volunteers; drug addicts, homeless people, lepers, people with sexually transmitted diseases, whatever, unless the blood bank can demonstrate beyond doubt that their blood is infected."
(effect) People bleed to death rather than taking a chance by visiting the blood blank.

[The Marsupial Illuminati]

I suggest that you work on another issue because an editor is currently editing an issue on the subject of homosexuals donating blood.