by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:25 pm
by Trotterdam » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:41 pm
I think you should drop either the "other" or the "bio-". Having them both would imply the AIs are also biological.Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:like any other bio-@@DENONYM@@
Problem with this: remember that effect lines are seen publicly on the nation page. So you can't use "you" to refer to the player of that nation.Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:[outcome] Jonathan 314159x10^26 says you've made the right choice
This kind of problem could actually also crop up without the death penalty. If an AI can use a backup to return from death, a sufficiently paranoid AI could also rig the backup to be activated if the AI is merely incapacitated for an extended period, such as being taken to jail.Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:[option] "Why keep the death penalty at all?"
And if the station holding the failsafe copy isn't connected to the internet?Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:[option validity: #57.2] "Hey, remember that AI CyberMirage Labs released onto the internet, to destroy the DEAT.exe virus?" asks IT Director @@RANDOMNAME@@. "SAL9000? Maybe it can also be used to track down and delete copies of executed AIs too? I mean, we'll need to make sure it tracks only the duly tried and convicted. If we run a series of simulations first, I'm sure it will all work perfectly."
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:49 pm
Trotterdam wrote:I like this premise a lot more than your previous one.
Trotterdam wrote:I think you should drop either the "other" or the "bio-". Having them both would imply the AIs are also biological.Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:like any other bio-@@DENONYM@@Problem with this: remember that effect lines are seen publicly on the nation page. So you can't use "you" to refer to the player of that nation.Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:[outcome] Jonathan 314159x10^26 says you've made the right choice
Trotterdam wrote:This kind of problem could actually also crop up without the death penalty. If an AI can use a backup to return from death, a sufficiently paranoid AI could also rig the backup to be activated if the AI is merely incapacitated for an extended period, such as being taken to jail.Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:[option] "Why keep the death penalty at all?"
I think the only feasible way to prevent this would be to locate and disable the backup station. Keep in mind that such a system takes some effort to set up, and the materials to create new robot bodies on demand have to come from somewhere, so there'd be trails for detectives to follow. Still, if the AI is canny enough and has multiple backups in different locations, it'd be very hard to make sure you've caught them all...
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And if the station holding the failsafe copy isn't connected to the internet?
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:20 pm
by Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:55 am
by Australian rePublic » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:54 am
by Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:57 am
by Australian rePublic » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:59 am
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:14 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Nice - an issue that deals with sleeving dilemmas without offering sleeving technologies to humans. You're good at transhuman issues.
Australian rePublic wrote:Why would an AI have a human name?
Australian rePublic wrote:Option 3 is a little unclear
by Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:46 am
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:Finally, all those hours of Altered Carbon, Black Mirror, and Love + Death + Robots are paying off.
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:37 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:11 pm
Trotterdam wrote:What purpose does the "SEE ALSO" in the title serve?
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:58 pm
by Trotterdam » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:23 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:28 pm
Trotterdam wrote:The programmer in me is twitching at that. On one hand, I respect that it's correctly punctuated and styled as a line that is indeed a valid command in several of the most popular programming languages. On the other hand, it bugs me that what it actually means when interpreted as a programming command is completely different from what it sounds like when read in English, and isn't really appropiate to the issue.
by Ransium » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:30 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:27 pm
Ransium wrote:I’m sad the title isn’t in python, but it would be less obviously code for that statement. Maybe, self.restore()
class Person:
def __init__(mysillyobject, name, age):
mysillyobject.name = name
mysillyobject.age = age
def myfunc(abc):
print("Hello my name is " + abc.name)
p1 = Person("John", 36)
p1.myfunc()
by Ransium » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:25 pm
by Trotterdam » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:29 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:32 pm
Ransium wrote:The code is valid, but any programmer who actually wrote it like that for non-demonstrative purposes should be fired. Self should always be written as self.
by Trotterdam » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:56 pm
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:12 pm
Trotterdam wrote:Seriously, you can do exactly this in a non-object-oriented language. In fact, there's at least one widely-used library, GTK, which pretty conspiciously implements what's obviously object-oriented behavior the hard way despite being written in C.
The entire point of object-oriented languages is that they do make this kind of thing implicit.
by Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:15 am
by Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:57 am
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