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[ACCEPTED] Chip Off the Ol' Bloc

Postby Jutsa » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:24 pm

I just realized that I'm almost down to 2 drafts on the forum, one of which may be inactive for a little bit. Close one. :rofl:

This is an idea I've wanted to work on for... golly, like a year now. Finally made one, coincidentally at the same time as Krogon,
but we agreed that I'd post my version of it. I hope you enjoy. :)

Title: Chip Off the Ol' Bloc
The Issue: A whistleblower recently announced that, despite banning political parties throughout @@NAME@@, a powerful and fast-growing secret "bloc" of politicians has begun unofficially negotiating with and helping other politicians within the bloc. This has lead to a growing threat of a one-party dominance over @@NAME@@.
Validity: Followup to #657.3

Option 1: "I can not believe the nerve of these people!" slams @@RANDOMNAME@@ of the Independent Party, showing you a poll taken by several like-minded anti-party government officials on whether the bloc members should be impeached. "Here we are, trying to run a partisan-free government, and instead we have what's effectively a party trying to take advantage of it! Everyone involved in this bloc must be impeached, before they take over parliament!"
[effect] the truly democratic non-partisan independent government is so set on purging like-minded officials that it's basically one big party

Option 2: "Oh, shocking, shocking this is. Of course, we wouldn't have this problem if we had planned political parties," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, who works under the Independent Party, showing you a poll on the matter which was answered by a small number of like-minded government officials whose ideologies are nearly opposite of yours. "What you should do is reinstate national parties, and install some sort of... oh, lets say 'quota' for each one. That way people with opposing viewpoints will be fairly represented, and one no more powerful than the other."
[effect] the truly democratic multi-partisan equal government is so well-balanced and properly allocated that it's basically one big party

Option 3: "No way! This has been the greatest idea you've ever had, @@LEADER@@!" exclaims Independent Party member @@RANDOMNAME@@, one of the government officials accused of being in the uncovered bloc, showing you a poll on how great you are. "The fact that people elected us like-minded officials should tell you what they really want, and we happen to be 'working together' since that's what governments do. If you'd like to join us in helping promote some of our like-minded politicians and ideologies, and prosecute that hack who accused us of conspiring, I wouldn't blame you. Maybe we could even return the favor."
[effect] the truly democratic non-partisan independent government is so agreeable and like-minded that it's basically one big party


Title: Chip Off the Ol' Bloc
The Issue: A whistleblower recently uncovered that despite banning political parties throughout @@NAME@@, a powerful and fast-growing "bloc" of politicians has begun unofficially negotiating with and helping other politicians within the bloc. This has lead to a growing threat of a one-party dominance over @@NAME@@.
Validity: Followup to #657.3

Option 1: "I can not believe the nerve of these people!" slams @@RANDOMNAME@@ of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ Independent Party. "Here we are trying to run a partisan-free government, and instead we have what's effectively a party trying to take advantage of it! Everyone involved in this bloc must be impeached, before they take over parliament!"
[effect] politicians that agree with one another are purged

Option 2: "Oh, shocking, shocking this is," says @@RANDOMNAME@@ of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ Independent Party, suspected of working in a much smaller block that has ideals nearly opposite of your own. "Of course, we wouldn't have this problem if we had planned political parties. What you should do is reinstate national parties, and install some sort of... oh, lets say "quota" for each one. That way people with opposing viewpoints will be fairly represented, and one no more powerful than the other."
[effect] the struggle to fill the new political parties has left several of them full of extremely unappealing politicians

Option 3: "No way! This was the greatest idea you've ever had, @@LEADER@@!" exclaims @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ Independent Party member @@RANDOMNAME@@, one of the members accused of being in the big bloc. "The fact that people elected us should tell you what they really want. If you'd like to join us in helping promote some of our like-minded politicians and ideals, I wouldn't blame you... maybe we could return the favor."
[effect] the truly democratic non-partisan independent government is so organized and functional that it's basically one big party
Last edited by Jutsa on Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 pm, edited 11 times in total.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:58 pm

Option 1- isn't your job as a politician to be partisan?
If you're against political parties who support the CCP, then vote against the Australian Labor Party
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:16 am

I'd emphasise that these are secret factions, and make it so that there's a whole load of them with byzantine conflicting loyalties.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:59 am

isn't your job as a politician to be partisan?
Good point... but I genuinely can't think of a better word than "non-partisan" to describe not being affiliated with a party. :blush:

I'd emphasise that these are secret factions, and make it so that there's a whole load of them with byzantine conflicting loyalties.
Not familiar with Byzantium, sadly, but I tried rewording all of the narrative in the options to hint at them all being part of a bloc.

Hopefully the effect lines also emphasize the confusion set by this draft. :blush:
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:10 am

Small bump~ Made option 3 a tiny bit more lengthy and question-imposing — hopefully that's not a bad thing though. :P
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:13 am

Candlewhisper is likely using "Byzantine" as a synonym for "complicated".

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:21 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Candlewhisper is likely using "Byzantine" as a synonym for "complicated".


Yes, sorry, I should speak plainly.

Though it is a perfectly cromulent word.
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:22 am

Confound my limited vocabulary. I genuinely thought he meant I should've looked up how Byzantium politics worked. >_>

(in hindsight it probably would be a worthwhile endeavor regardless)
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Postby The Sakhalinsk Empire » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:35 am

Dang! I had a really old issue idea with almost the same name, and I nearly thought you ripped me off here until I saw it was about a totally different topic. Good work btw
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:18 am

:lol: Thanks. :)
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Postby The Sakhalinsk Empire » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:43 am

Jutsa wrote::lol: Thanks. :)

For reference, this is the issue: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=448446
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Postby Jutsa » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:30 am

Bump~

Can't really think of a way to phrase some of the narrative in options 1 and 2 better, like I'd like,
but uh... yeah, I think I'll not leave this one up for too much longer. :)
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:30 pm

Jutsa wrote:Confound my limited vocabulary. I genuinely thought he meant I should've looked up how Byzantium politics worked. >_>

(in hindsight it probably would be a worthwhile endeavor regardless)


You should!

Byzantine politics were wild. :rofl:
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:16 pm

Submitted!

Hope I'm not going too fast with these... :blush:

Thank you all for your help. :)
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:52 am

Good Luck!
If you're against political parties who support the CCP, then vote against the Australian Labor Party
The only reason why countries bid to host the games is for tourism. This is why countries plan to boycott the Beijing winter Olympics. By cancelling the 2020/21 Olympics, Japan is defacto recieving the same punishment as China, but Japan did nothing wrong since World War II
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