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[SUBMITTED] The Villain in Red

Postby Jutsa » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:59 am

So, at first I thought this was what #1066 was about,
but upon it not being the case, I thought "That would make for a silly issue."

I didn't actually get inspired to write anything like it, though — until now. Which, incidentally, is why I'm posting this instead of getting out of my lul and working on my other drafts. >_>
I hope you enjoy; I had a lot of fun with this one... :lol:

Title: The Villain in Red
The Issue: With growing concerns about the communist nation of East Lebatuck and its growing economy, some of your more patriotic citizens are calling for the ban of the Communist Manifesto, along with some similar socialist books that seem to be popping up more frequently around @@NAME@@.
Validity: Capitalist; McCarthyism

Option 1: "These books are disgusting! I'd show you just how disgusting if it weren't for the fact that I have moral dignity," speaks founder of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@-Society-Against-Communism (@@DEMONYMINITIALS@@SAC), @@RANDOMNAME@@, caressing a copy of the Capitalizt Declaration. "Every last one of these anti-capitalist books should be banned from our great nation. The last thing we need are a bunch of commie revolutionaries stirring up trouble, brainwashing our people and toppling our government. Ban them, for the sake of capitalism!" @@HE@@ looks at his book. "Wait, what's a 'z' doing there?"
[effect] children's books about giving without getting anything in return are taken off of shelves

Option 2: "So you want to promote the idea of capitalism by telling businesses what they can't sell?" lashes founder of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@-Syndicate-Approving-Capitalism (@@DEMONYMINITIALS@@SAC), @@RANDOMNAME@@, holding a copy of the Socialist Pronouncement with a rubber glove in an attempt to prove a point. "Sure, these books are garbage, but if businesses wanna sell them, should we deny them that? Capitalism is about freedom! If anything, businesses should be allowed to sell and promote any book they very well please; in the name of capitalism!" @@HE@@ discretely puts the book and glove in a trash can.
[effect] 50 Types of Pipe Bomb is sold almost as prominently as the Communist Manifesto

Option 3: "There's no need to stop businesses from selling these books; as long as you make it illegal for people to read them!" enthusiastically explains founder of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@-Socialism-Annihilation-Community (@@DEMONYMINITALS@@SAC), @@RANDOMNAME@@, placing a copy of the Communist Manifesto on your desk and brandishing a chainsaw. "May businesses sell these books so people can get their hatred out and destroy these things by any means necessary! Then the bits left over can be sold and promote even more capitalism! It's win-win, such is the way of capitalism!" @@HE@@ begins destroying the book, covering your office in bits of paper.
[effect] a variety of fuels are spent making books so they can be used as a variety of fuels
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:03 pm

Book-burning is such an extreme stance that I'd suggest reframing this one so that only nations with McCarthyism in place receive it. And yes, that is something we track.

Also, I'm aware there's already straight book-burning issues in the game. For the record, 74% of nations choose option 2 on the Harry Potter issue.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:54 pm

That reminds me, think I should not use the actual Communist Manifesto?

I wanna poke fun at capitalism, but I don't wanna be too extremely anti-communist.

Also: I'd like to point out that I did, in fact, consider adding an option that instates McCarthyism. :rofl:

ed: And yeah, book-burning is pretty radical, but only option 3 does that. Option 1...
er... know what, I'm not exactly sure what you'd do with the books, so you're probably onto something there... >.>
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:48 pm

Hrng.... yeah I'm going to restrict this to nations with McCarthyism. :rofl:

In fact, this could be an interesting way to add an extra McCarthyism reversal... o_O
(I am aware not all issues for not-frequently-seen-policies need a reversal, it's just a thought.)

Still, yeah, I'll do that. But I do like that idea.
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Postby Sacara » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:56 pm

What we really need is an issue that introduces McCarthyism. :P
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:16 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:For the record, 74% of nations choose option 2 on the Harry Potter issue.
74%? That's honestly less than I'd think for such a one-sided issue. (Unless that number's also counting dismissal rates, rather than everyone else choosing option 1.)

Jutsa wrote:Also: I'd like to point out that I did, in fact, consider adding an option that instates McCarthyism. :rofl:
Jutsa wrote:In fact, this could be an interesting way to add an extra McCarthyism reversal... o_O
(I am aware not all issues for not-frequently-seen-policies need a reversal, it's just a thought.)
We need another McCarthyism trigger much more desperately than we need another McCarthyism reversal.

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Postby Jutsa » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:19 am

Eyeah fair.

Wellh, what do you guys think? Is this issue better for McCarthyist nations (that might be able to reverse it),
or better for super-capitalist and low-pacifist nations as a way to bring about McCarthyism?

(Heck I could probably even have it for both if I have a restricted fourth option for non-McCarthyist nations)
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Postby Sacara » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:50 am

I would like to see another option in the game that triggers the McCarthyism policy, to be honest.
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:40 am

I agree; and, in fact, that's an idea I originally had for this, but for some reason didn't actually add?

Regardless, I want to do what works best for the issue. Even if another trigger is pretty important, I wanna make sure it's the right fit first. :)

ed: though, the odds do seem to be pointing to me adding a McCarthy trigger and making this not-McCarthyist-specific.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:29 am

The main thing that I'm worried about is that going on a witch-hunt against foreign spies is somewhat different from banning books, which is the main topic here.

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Postby Jutsa » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:30 am

Eyeah fair.

I did actually submit a draft about foreign "spies" but seeing as it's not been added yet, I'm kinda suspecting it was destroyed.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:03 am

Option 3 is a bit bland. I was expecting you to force them to be sold in Hebrew or something. Also, issue validity, no democracy
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:42 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Option 3 is a bit bland. I was expecting you to force them to be sold in Hebrew or something.
Surprisingly enough, there are people who can read Hebrew.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:15 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Option 3 is a bit bland. I was expecting you to force them to be sold in Hebrew or something.
Surprisingly enough, there are people who can read Hebrew.

I know, I know. There are 12 million Jews, nit to mention theologians. **facepalm** how do I f$$k that up? No seriously, how did I f$$k that up???? I shoulda chosen a less popular language
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Postby Sacara » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:08 am

Trotterdam wrote:Surprisingly enough, there are people who can read Hebrew.
I don't sig quotes, but if I did, this would be it. :rofl:
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am

Bump~

Honestly, Aussie, I think paying people to burn books is more interesting than restricting books to a rarely seen language,
although the effect line "socialists speak Hebrew" would be pretty outrageous and 100% in-context with the option. :rofl:

I'm pretty happy with this one, but I'll leave it up for a while longer since I only somewhat recently posted it.
Maybe I can try tackling a communist McCarthyism draft at some point — although, frankly, making a McCarthyism trigger first would be ideal. :blush:
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:55 am

Putting this on final call, unless major changes are made. :)
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Postby New Ladavia » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:25 pm

Since my current draft is about to be submitted I could tackle a McCarthyism trigger. This issue I believe is trying to confuse me option one ban the books option two allows you to spread communism by being capitalist and the third says you should be capitalist by selling the books but also bans them. And all organizations are named __SAC. Either way, good job as it illustrates how confusing that era was to the average American living at that time.

Side note I can read Hebrew (other options would be to use braille or wingdings) And a historical fact: Part of the reason Hitler attacked the USSR is that he thought communism was Jewish!
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:31 pm

You could if you really want to. Don't feel obligated to, but feel free to try. :)

I've got a couple reworks I wanna do, both of them were from way back in January. A year later, they'll be reborn. ;)
(yes, a year; I mean, I'm probably gonna be working on a few other drafts... and then actually working, so it'll be a while.)

P.S. I meant a year from then, not a year from now. >.>
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:47 pm

It's been submitted, italics and all! Thank you all for your help. :)

Here's hoping we get a McCarthy trigger in the game soon. :blush:
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:40 pm

Good Luck!
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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:41 pm

You're congratulating people on having issues submitted now? Aren't you skipping a step?

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Postby Candensia » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:09 pm

Best wishes!
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