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Greater Kiwi
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Founded: Jun 16, 2018
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This WAS a good game but ...

Postby Greater Kiwi » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:49 pm

I was having fun with this game until my first issue with terrorism. Your formula is either flawed or deliberately tilted unfairly. After a terrorist attack the majority of peoples affected are going to be initially angry and would not result in a 33% drop in civil rights. That's just plain stupid. Its ruined my country and I have no desire to play a game that takes such a serious issue like terrorism and either by mistake or design minimizes it. You have lost my interest in playing. Fairwell.

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The Black Party
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Founded: Oct 31, 2017
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:52 pm

We've lost an important member today everyone.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:54 pm

The Black Party wrote:We've lost an important member today everyone.

A moment of silence for those poor lost souls who didn't read the premise...


EDIT: I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque...how did I end up here?
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Founded: Sep 09, 2004
New York Times Democracy

Postby Godular » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:54 pm

*institutes publicly funded skate parks to let kids go out and exercise*

*sees weather stat drop by another .08%*

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Frisbeeteria
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Founded: Dec 16, 2003
Capitalizt

Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:56 pm

Moved, General :arrow: Got Issues.

I really ought to lock it, but comments like ...
The Black Party wrote:We've lost an important member today everyone.

... are too much fun.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:57 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:Moved, General :arrow: Got Issues.

Ooooooooh, that's how I got here. Magic.
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The Pendulum Wars
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Founded: Jun 01, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Pendulum Wars » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:57 pm

Just play the game man.
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Sacara
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Founded: May 13, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Sacara » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:59 pm

Greater Kiwi wrote:After a terrorist attack the majority of peoples affected are going to be initially angry and would not result in a 33% drop in civil rights.
Huh. I didn’t realize that the civil rights statistic was determined by how your nations might feel about a policy. It doesn’t matter whether they agree with it or not, you still took civil rights away from your citizens. How they view it is not important whatsoever.
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Postby Mzeusia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:59 pm

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Founded: Dec 10, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby United Imperial Systems » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:02 pm

Leaving NS for such a reason is downright silly.
You do know that you are not forced to follow NS stats, right...?
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The Black Party
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Founded: Oct 31, 2017
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:06 pm

Can we please have a moment of silence for our fallen angel?

Y'all need to show some respect.

Funeral Procession
To honour and pay tribute to the life of Greater Kiwi, and to express our love and admiration for him/her.

Also to try to bring some comfort to those of his/her family and friends who are here and have been deeply hurt by his/her sudden death.

Greater Kiwi wasn't a particularly religious person, so it's befitting that his/her funeral ceremony should reflect what he/she was, ...... a gentle, .....kind, ......loving person; devoted to his/her family

Greater Kiwi wasn't a particularly religious person but it was thought that his/her funeral service should include some form of religious content and prayers.

Its only natural that we should be sad today, because in a practical sense, Greater Kiwi is no longer a part of our lives, "we must die, we know" said a character in Shakespeare, " tis but the time and drawing days out that men stand upon", and so we all come to ponder the life and death of a truly wonderful/lovely man/lady aged 67; with confused and mixed feelings.
For we have a powerful sense of loss; combined with a recognition that; if death must come, its as well that its not unduly prolonged, we don't want to see someone we love suffer, so this sorrow; and our sense of the fitness of things; don't sit easily together, one purpose of our proceedings here today; is in some way to try to reconcile those feelings.

Today is also a day for memories, today will be remembered for many reasons, but mainly I hope it will be remembered by you all; as a very special day, a special day in which you shared some time with others; in order to pay your last respects; and to say both mentally and physically; a sad and fond farewell to a wonderful/lovely man/lady, ....a man/lady whom we were all so very privileged to have known.

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I can accept the idea of my own demise, but I am unable to accept the death of anyone else. I find it impossible to let a friend or relative go into that country of no return. Disbelief becomes my close companion, and anger often follows in its wake. I answer the heroic question 'Death, where is thy sting?' with ' it is here in my heart and mind and memories.'

We have come together from different places, and we are all at different stages on our journey through life.
Our paths are varied and we look at life in different ways.
But there is one thing we all have in common, at one point or another, and to some degree or other, our lives have touched the life of Greater Kiwi.

We are here this morning/afternoon in order to pay our last respects and bid a sad but fond farewell to Greater Kiwi, we are here also, so that in our own way we can celebrate, honour and pay tribute to his/her life, and in doing so we express our sincere love and admiration for him/her.

And so this morning/afternoon we've put aside our usual daily activities for a while, and gathered here to give expression to the thoughts and feelings that well up in us at this time of loss.
And also because in one-way or another, Greater Kiwi's death affects us all.

Amen.
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The Democratic Nation of Unovia
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Founded: Jun 26, 2012
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Postby The Democratic Nation of Unovia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:09 pm

Greater Kiwi wrote:I was having fun with this game until my first issue with terrorism. Your formula is either flawed or deliberately tilted unfairly. After a terrorist attack the majority of peoples affected are going to be initially angry and would not result in a 33% drop in civil rights. That's just plain stupid. Its ruined my country and I have no desire to play a game that takes such a serious issue like terrorism and either by mistake or design minimizes it. You have lost my interest in playing. Fairwell.

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Gospel Power
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Founded: Sep 03, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Gospel Power » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:14 pm

Farewell then, you can always come back if you want to, but for now, here is a tribute for you:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=12iorWj83P0

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Australian rePublic
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Founded: Mar 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:03 pm

How to get volunteers in a smallish community to listen to you:
A. Nicely point out that you think there's a mistake, try to discuss with those who are more knowledgeable about the subject, and try to figure out a solution which pleases everyone
B. Nicly ask how you ended up in that situation and listen to advice. Who knows, there might be an error
C. Use your search engine of choice to look up the definition of the word "error" whilst appreciating that coding is a difficult discipline
D. Be a ten day old member with neither knowledge nor experience of how the game works, chuck a hissy-fit and imply that everyone's an idiot and/or heartless dickhead

The correct answer is "D", moron


If you legitimately believe that there is a mistake, you can post it here:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=424650
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:44 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:How to get volunteers in a smallish community to listen to you:
A. Nicely point out that you think there's a mistake, try to discuss with those who are more knowledgeable about the subject, and try to figure out a solution which pleases everyone
B. Nicly ask how you ended up in that situation and listen to advice. Who knows, there might be an error
C. Use your search engine of choice to look up the definition of the word "error" whilst appreciating that coding is a difficult discipline
D. Be a ten day old member with neither knowledge nor experience of how the game works, chuck a hissy-fit and imply that everyone's an idiot and/or heartless dickhead

The correct answer is "D", moron


If you legitimately believe that there is a mistake, you can post it here:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=424650

"Moron"? Seriously?

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Postby New Excalibus » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:47 pm

Aren't you overreacting a bit? Just because you didn't get what you expected doesn't give you much of a reason to just ragequit.
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Gandoor
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:49 pm

I mean this game is specifically designed to be satirical but OK.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Andsed » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:52 pm

Greater Kiwi wrote:I was having fun with this game until my first issue with terrorism. Your formula is either flawed or deliberately tilted unfairly. After a terrorist attack the majority of peoples affected are going to be initially angry and would not result in a 33% drop in civil rights. That's just plain stupid. Its ruined my country and I have no desire to play a game that takes such a serious issue like terrorism and either by mistake or design minimizes it. You have lost my interest in playing. Fairwell.

This is truly a tragedy folks. How will we ever cope with such an influential, well known, well liked player leaving? Let us have a moment of silence.
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Founded: Jan 01, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby -United Republic of Freedonia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:57 pm

these days i couldn't care less about issues, i barely anwser them, but not because of the reasons that OP (*sniff*) is pointing out.
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Founded: Sep 14, 2017
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Jebslund » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:44 pm

The Black Party wrote:Can we please have a moment of silence for our fallen angel?

Y'all need to show some respect.

Funeral Procession
To honour and pay tribute to the life of Greater Kiwi, and to express our love and admiration for him/her.

Also to try to bring some comfort to those of his/her family and friends who are here and have been deeply hurt by his/her sudden death.

Greater Kiwi wasn't a particularly religious person, so it's befitting that his/her funeral ceremony should reflect what he/she was, ...... a gentle, .....kind, ......loving person; devoted to his/her family

Greater Kiwi wasn't a particularly religious person but it was thought that his/her funeral service should include some form of religious content and prayers.

Its only natural that we should be sad today, because in a practical sense, Greater Kiwi is no longer a part of our lives, "we must die, we know" said a character in Shakespeare, " tis but the time and drawing days out that men stand upon", and so we all come to ponder the life and death of a truly wonderful/lovely man/lady aged 67; with confused and mixed feelings.
For we have a powerful sense of loss; combined with a recognition that; if death must come, its as well that its not unduly prolonged, we don't want to see someone we love suffer, so this sorrow; and our sense of the fitness of things; don't sit easily together, one purpose of our proceedings here today; is in some way to try to reconcile those feelings.

Today is also a day for memories, today will be remembered for many reasons, but mainly I hope it will be remembered by you all; as a very special day, a special day in which you shared some time with others; in order to pay your last respects; and to say both mentally and physically; a sad and fond farewell to a wonderful/lovely man/lady, ....a man/lady whom we were all so very privileged to have known.

Maya Angelou recently wrote;
When I think of death, and of late the idea has come with alarming frequency, I seem at peace with the idea that a day will dawn when I will no longer be among those living in this valley of strange humors.
I can accept the idea of my own demise, but I am unable to accept the death of anyone else. I find it impossible to let a friend or relative go into that country of no return. Disbelief becomes my close companion, and anger often follows in its wake. I answer the heroic question 'Death, where is thy sting?' with ' it is here in my heart and mind and memories.'

We have come together from different places, and we are all at different stages on our journey through life.
Our paths are varied and we look at life in different ways.
But there is one thing we all have in common, at one point or another, and to some degree or other, our lives have touched the life of Greater Kiwi.

We are here this morning/afternoon in order to pay our last respects and bid a sad but fond farewell to Greater Kiwi, we are here also, so that in our own way we can celebrate, honour and pay tribute to his/her life, and in doing so we express our sincere love and admiration for him/her.

And so this morning/afternoon we've put aside our usual daily activities for a while, and gathered here to give expression to the thoughts and feelings that well up in us at this time of loss.
And also because in one-way or another, Greater Kiwi's death affects us all.

Amen.

*presses F to pay respects*

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Postby Bhembwol » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:23 pm

Don't leave the game, just make several thousand puppet nations to try out the effects of every. single. issue. until you get the effect you want.
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:26 pm

Greater Kiwi wrote:I was having fun with this game until my first issue with terrorism. Your formula is either flawed or deliberately tilted unfairly. After a terrorist attack the majority of peoples affected are going to be initially angry and would not result in a 33% drop in civil rights. That's just plain stupid. Its ruined my country and I have no desire to play a game that takes such a serious issue like terrorism and either by mistake or design minimizes it. You have lost my interest in playing. Fairwell.

The only recent decision that matches that description is #592/option 2. Here's the option:
“With that haircut, I’m surprised YOU aren’t the one we’re condemning,” jokes fellow panellist @@RANDOMNAME@@, to thunderous audience applause. “In all seriousness though, it’s not right that we’re playing right into this terrorist’s hands, spreading his message of hate and making him a celebrity. People died, man! We should have an enforced code of conduct, asking the media to be responsible in reporting. After all, publicising an agenda of hate is the same as promoting it. Consign these killers and their whack-job thoughts to the oblivion of history where they belong.”


It's a pro-censorship option which would naturally affect both political and civil liberties. You are mis-quoting the effect though. It dropped your civil rights from 64.33 → 62.00, a 3.6% drop not 33%.

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Founded: Apr 03, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Berhakonia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:32 pm

Mods need to lock this thread

It's pointless and shouldn't have lasted this long
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Ex-Nation

Postby Swiabar » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:33 pm

F

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Ex-Nation

Postby Berhakonia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:34 pm

Swiabar wrote:F


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