NationStates issue results

[Frisbeeteria]

Hey Trott, why do you need people to randomly tell you effects lines, if the program automatically generates that for you?

The program automatically tells me which effect lines exist in the game. It doesn't tell me which issue and option number they belong on. The majority of the time I can make an educated guess, but sometimes the effect lines are obtuse enough that I need some help, and even when I can figure it out on my own it doesn't hurt to have confirmation.

[Australian rePublic]

Hey Trott, why do you need people to randomly tell you effects lines, if the program automatically generates that for you?

The program automatically tells me which effect lines exist in the game. It doesn't tell me which issue and option number they belong on. The majority of the time I can make an educated guess, but sometimes the effect lines are obtuse enough that I need some help, and even when I can figure it out on my own it doesn't hurt to have confirmation.

I see. Cheers!

[Allemonde]

Thank you, I just bookmarked the page.

[TalAkMaChen]

The known effect line for option 1 would still work fine on option 2, so I went ahead and assumed it uses that. It helps that I've seen that the effect line is not restricted to nations either with or without prisons.

Thanks for confirming the nature of the option.

I can confirm the effect line of 271 option 2 is indeed the same as for option 1, recently found it at War Dogs III.

[TalAkMaChen]

Issue 1245, option 2:

The Talking Point

Bemused schoolkids colour in their favourite quadratic equations with crayons.

(found at Aragesh)

[Bears Armed]

Issue 1245, option 5:

hay has been added to school cafeteria menus

[Trotterdam]

Issue 1245, option 5:

hay has been added to school cafeteria menus

If you look at the draft thread, you'll see that effect line was my idea to begin with.

[Minoa]

Hi there,

I wonder if the effect lines could be modified to read like a sentence: e.g. instead of having “bins outnumber trees in city parks”, it could be “Bins outnumber trees in city parks.” It would make updating issues on our wiki easier.

Best,

-- Minoa

[Trotterdam]

Effect lines aren't sentences in the game itself. They're sentence fragments.

Your main page displays a list of four effect lines strung into one sentence (all but the first will not be capitalized, all but the last will not end in a period), and your national happenings always give effect lines after "Following new legislation in @@NAME@@,". It's only with the introduction of the fast issues / results page feature in 2016 that formatted-as-a-sentence effect lines started appearing more than once in a blue moon (the other way to get them is on a brand-new nation which has only ever answered one issue), and that's a very ephemeral report compared to the more enduring information on nation pages.

My site displays effect lines accurately to how they are used in the game and to how aspiring issue authors are requested to format their submissions. It is NSindex's formatting that is incorrect.

[Minoa]

Okay, I refined the presentation of the effect lines in Issues #1000 to #1099. Let me know if anything needs fixed, because I am happy to address any flaws in the wiki (the new navbox is still u/c, may be ready tomorrow).

[Trotterdam]

I see you changed the wiki to indicate the sentence fragment nature by starting effect lines with ellipses now.

Naturally, it is up to you to decide the style guidelines on your own wiki. I am simply explaining why I am not beholden to them.

...Though really, if you're able to systematically overhaul so many issues in one day, I'm not sure why you were asking for me to make things easier for you to begin with.

[TalAkMaChen]

Issue 928, option 2 has the same line as option 1

The Talking Point

Sales of pregnancy testing kits are booming.
(found at War Dogs XX)
and it obviously cancels the Heterosexuality policy

and a new one, #1244, option 2:

The Talking Point

Citizens are deployed to barren deserts to protect small territorial claims.
(found at BuccaRuu)

[TalAkMaChen]

Issue 1116, option 2 has the same effect line as option 1, i.e.

it is well recognised that you can't sustain communism without a bit of spirit
(it also removed Prohibition policy as expected).

[TalAkMaChen]

Issue 1249, option 1

The Talking Point

The big red machine has ground to a halt.

[TalAkMaChen]

Effect of 304, option 5 is the same as option 4, i.e.

The Talking Point

Most mothers are forced to quit their jobs to care for infants.
(found at War Dogs XI)

[TalAkMaChen]

1251, option 2

The Talking Point

Schoolboys who turn to watch pretty girls go by are given detention.
(found at BuccaRuu)

[Australian rePublic]

the new airport at Mr. Giles' farm is panicking his sheep

Is the effect line for 1256.1, not 1256.3

[Trotterdam]

1251, option 2

The Talking Point

Schoolboys who turn to watch pretty girls go by are given detention.
(found at BuccaRuu)

I've already had that one for ages...?

the new airport at Mr. Giles' farm is panicking his sheep

Is the effect line for 1256.1, not 1256.3

Ah, thanks.

I though it looked like it had the right level of facilities-where-they're-not-wanted to fit on option 3, and my script hadn't spotted option 3's actual effect line until, coincidentally, half an hour ago. Turns out it's the only effect line that remained almost unchanged from your submission.

[TalAkMaChen]

1251, option 2

The Talking Point

Schoolboys who turn to watch pretty girls go by are given detention.
(found at BuccaRuu)

I've already had that one for ages...?

I don't know, when I posted it here, it was not in the list. I know it only updates at midnight, so maybe you got it the same day, but surely not earlier as I'd have seen it then prior to reporting.

[TalAkMaChen]

Another addition, option 4 of 905 (recently added, cf. this report)

The Talking Point

Five-hundred-twenty-five-thousand-six-hundred revivals is how theatre-goers measure a year.

(found at War Dogs IV)

[TalAkMaChen]

1257, option 3:

The Talking Point

Populations of two-headed @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ have been found around recently-uncovered archaeological sites.

(found at War Dogs XVI

and option 4

The Talking Point

Paranoid museum guards keep a lookout for any animated displays attempting to escape the premises after dark.

(War Dogs XI)

[Trotterdam]

Ah, right. I suspected those, but I wasn't sure because the effect line for option 3 looks totally backwards. The only option which acknowledges the dangers of radioactivity and recommends taking appropiate precautions, gets the effect line where the radioactivity is causing problems?

That makes it sound less like the player is deciding government policy, and more like the player is deciding reality. If you're worried that the stuff might be dangerous, then it actually is and your precautions were warranted. If you're not worried that the stuff might be dangerous, then it isn't and nothing bad happens.

(Also, radioactivity is really not hard to test for. Geiger counters are easily portable. If there was any chance of the material being radioactive, someone should have taken a Geiger counter to the premises long before the issue was brought to @@LEADER@@'s desk.)

[TalAkMaChen]

Issue 1255, option 4:

The Talking Point

The military has adopted a weird double-fisted salute. (fresh at War Dogs X)

[Bitty Kitty]

Hello! Thank you for making this! I have read your original post, but have not read comments, so please forgive me if this has been suggested before: It would be nice if the Results column was split into 3 columns (range, name, mean) so that it would be easier to read.
-Bitty Kitty

[TalAkMaChen]

Issue 1258, option 1:

The Talking Point

Former slave-owners hope there are no hard feelings when they apply for jobs from their erstwhile charges.

(found at War Dogs XVIII)

and strange enough, #640, option 2 got a new text. We had not noticed this before?

The Talking Point

East Lebatuck tests its moon rovers in the barren wasteland of rural @@NAME@@.

(found at War Dogs XIII)