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[SUBMITTED] Muddy Waters

Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:00 am

[title] Muddy Waters

[desc] Your intelligence service has discovered the existence of Blackacre-sponsored groups who use social media to divide the nation by creating hundreds of accounts on various websites to post inflamed rhetoric and spread false information. These pro-Blackacre accounts operating from within Blackacre are made to look like they belong to @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, making people believe that their country is very partisan.
[validity] must have legal access to the Internet

[option] "We cannot separate fact from fiction, our people's voices from the divisive words of the enemy!" rages your Intelligence Minister. "Blackacre wants to subvert our country by tearing us apart. They spread lies among our people, intensifying and creating disunity in our national discourse. We cannot tolerate this! We must build a Great Firewall to block all internet traffic from Blackacre!"
[effect]the government has taken control of the internet in the name of national security

[option] "We fight fire with fire!" fumes your Counterintelligence Minister. "We too can get commentators to make fake accounts and agitate a populace. We too can spread lies and promote conspiracy theories. We too can create a hostile, aggressive atmosphere. We too can manipulate and cause chaos. Blackacre fanned the flames in our home. Let's burn their house to the ground!"
[effect]@@NAME@@ is known as the land where trolls live

[option] "It's easy to discern the truth," calmly purrs your Education Minister. "I could easily identify any fake news articles that came my way. I know when someone is trolling me, and I don't allow strangers on the internet to provoke me or influence my perception. People need to learn how to interpret information and comport themselves online. Classes are the best solution."
[effect]the government tells citizens which news sources are credible

[option] "Stop trying to hide the truth," yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a passionate, everyday citizen. "LasagnaGate is real! @@LEADER@@ is the bastard offspring of a genocidal dictator! Government officials worship Satan and sacrifice children to him! Violetists control the media and the government! My rights are being taken away by the immigrant communist homosexuals! This is reality, you cucks!"
[effect]conspiracy theories are the opiate of the masses
[valid_if]private enterprise legal

[option] "Stop trying to hide the truth," yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a passionate, everyday citizen. "LasagnaGate is real! @@LEADER@@ is the bastard offspring of a genocidal dictator! Government officials worship Satan and sacrifice children to him! Violetists control the media and the government! My rights are being taken away by the immigrant capitalist homosexuals! This is reality, you cucks!"
[effect]conspiracy theories are the opiate of the masses
[valid_if]no private enterprise


[title] Muddy Waters

[desc] Your intelligence service has discovered the existence of Blackacre-sponsored groups who use social media to divide @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@. These groups create many accounts on various websites to post inflamed rhetoric and spread false information. These pro-Blackacre accounts operated from within Blackacre are made to look like they belong to @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, making people believe that their country is very bipartisan.
[validity] must have legal access to the Internet

[option] "We cannot separate fact from fiction, our people's voices from the divisive words of the enemy!" rages your Intelligence Minister. "Blackacre wants to subvert our country by tearing us apart. They spread lies among our people, intensifying and creating disunity in our national discourse. We cannot tolerate this! We must build a Great Firewall to block all internet traffic from Blackacre!"
[effect]the government takes control of the internet in the name of national security

[option] "We fight fire with fire!" fumes your Counterintelligence Minister. "We too can get commentators to make fake accounts and agitate a populace. We too can spread lies and promote conspiracy theories. We too can create a hostile, aggressive atmosphere. We too can manipulate and cause chaos. Blackacre fanned the flames in our home. Let's burn their house to the ground!"
[effect]@@NAME@@ is known as the land where trolls live

[option] "Stop trying to hide the truth!" yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a passionate, everyday citizen. "PizzaGate is real! @@LEADER@@ is the bastard orphan of a genocidal dictator! Government officials worship Satan and sacrifice children to him! Violetists control the media and the government! My rights are being taken away by the immigrant communist homosexuals! This is reality, you cucks!"
[effect]conspiracy theories are the opiate of the masses

[option] "It's easy to discern the truth," calmly purrs your Education Minister. "I could easily identify any fake news articles that came my way. I know when someone is trolling me, and I don't allow strangers on the internet to provoke me or influence my perception. People need to learn how to interpret information and comport themselves online. Classes are the best solution."
[effect]the government tells citizens which news sources are credible

[title] Muddy Waters

[desc] Your intelligence service has discovered the existence of Blackacre-sponsored groups who use social media to divide the nation by creating hundreds of accounts on various websites to post inflamed rhetoric and spread false information. These pro-Blackacre accounts operating from within Blackacre are made to look like they belong to @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, making people believe that their country is very partisan.
[validity] must have legal access to the Internet

[option] "It's easy to discern the truth," calmly purrs your Education Minister. "I could easily identify any fake news articles that came my way. I know when someone is trolling me, and I don't allow strangers on the internet to provoke me or influence my perception. People need to learn how to interpret information and comport themselves online. Classes are the best solution."
[effect]the government tells citizens which news sources are credible

[option] "We fight fire with fire!" fumes your Counterintelligence Minister. "We too can get commentators to make fake accounts and agitate a populace. We too can spread lies and promote conspiracy theories. We too can create a hostile, aggressive atmosphere. We too can manipulate and cause chaos. Blackacre fanned the flames in our home. Let's burn their house to the ground!"
[effect]@@NAME@@ is known as the land where trolls live

[option] "Stop trying to hide the truth," yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a passionate, everyday citizen. "PizzaGate is real! @@LEADER@@ is the bastard offspring of a genocidal dictator! Government officials worship Satan and sacrifice children to him! Violetists control the media and the government! My rights are being taken away by the immigrant communist homosexuals! This is reality, you cucks!"
[effect]conspiracy theories are the opiate of the masses

[option] "We cannot separate fact from fiction, our people's voices from the divisive words of the enemy!" rages your Intelligence Minister. "Blackacre wants to subvert our country by tearing us apart. They spread lies among our people, intensifying and creating disunity in our national discourse. We cannot tolerate this! We must build a Great Firewall to block all internet traffic from Blackacre!"
[effect]the government takes control of the internet in the name of national security
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:06 am

There's actually a draft on this subject in the pool. However, don't let that stop you, your issue is probably better.
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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:55 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:There's actually a draft on this subject in the pool. However, don't let that stop you, your issue is probably better.

Thank you.

Further comments are welcome.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:22 pm

The pizza gate reference may not necessirily apply to NationStates
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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:05 am

Australian rePublic wrote:The pizza gate reference may not necessirily apply to NationStates

Why not?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:15 pm

Orange words are suggestions, orange ellipsis are removed phrases, underlined words are comments. Don't question why, but I decided to give Blackacre a cat gimmick for their internet content.

[title] Muddy Waters

[desc] Your intelligence service has discovered the existence of Blackacre-sponsored groups who social media to divide the nation by creating hundreds of accounts on various websites to post inflamed rhetoric and spread false information. These pro-Blackacre accounts operating from within Blackacre are made to look like they belong to @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, making people believe that their country is very bipartisan.
[validity] must have legal access to the Internet

[option] "We cannot separate fact from fiction, our people's voices from the divisive words of the enemy!" rages your Intelligence Minister. "Blackacre wants to subvert our glorious country through their dastardly lies, intensifying and creating disunity in our national discourse. We cannot tolerate this! We must build a Great Firewall to block all internet traffic from Blackacre, be it a cat video or terrorism!"
[effect]the government takes control of the internet in the name of national security

[option] "We fight fire with fire!" fumes your Counterintelligence Minister. "We too can get commentators to make fake accounts and agitate a populace. We too can spread lies and promote conspiracy theories. We too can create a hostile, aggressive atmosphere where friendships can be ruined over cat videos. We too can manipulate and cause chaos. Blackacre fanned the flames in our home. Let's fan it right back and burn their house to the ground!"
[effect]@@NAME@@ is known as the land where trolls live

[option] "Stop trying to hide the truth!" yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a passionate, everyday citizen. "CatGate is real! @@LEADER@@ is the bastard orphan of a genocidal dictator! Government officials worship Satan and sacrifice children to him! Violetists control the media and the government! My rights are being taken away by the immigrant communist homosexuals! This is reality, you cucks!"
[effect]conspiracy theories are the opiate of the masses

[option] "It's easy to discern the truth," calmly purrs your Education Minister. "I could easily identify any fake news articles that came my way. I know when someone is trolling me, and I don't allow strangers on the internet to provoke me or influence my perspective without evidence. People need to learn how to interpret information and comport themselves online. Classes taught by government teaches are the best solution to fight this deception."
[effect]the government tells citizens which news sources are credible
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:56 am

I'm pretty sure that's not what the word 'bi-partisan' means.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:18 am

What Chan said. Bipartisan refers to cooperative efforts between both sides.
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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:34 am

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Orange words are suggestions, orange ellipsis are removed phrases, underlined words are comments. Don't question why, but I decided to give Blackacre a cat gimmick for their internet content.

[title] Muddy Waters

[desc] Your intelligence service has discovered the existence of Blackacre-sponsored groups who social media to divide the nation by creating hundreds of accounts on various websites to post inflamed rhetoric and spread false information. These pro-Blackacre accounts operating from within Blackacre are made to look like they belong to @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@, making people believe that their country is very bipartisan.
[validity] must have legal access to the Internet

[option] "We cannot separate fact from fiction, our people's voices from the divisive words of the enemy!" rages your Intelligence Minister. "Blackacre wants to subvert our glorious country through their dastardly lies, intensifying and creating disunity in our national discourse. We cannot tolerate this! We must build a Great Firewall to block all internet traffic from Blackacre, be it a cat video or terrorism!"
[effect]the government takes control of the internet in the name of national security

[option] "We fight fire with fire!" fumes your Counterintelligence Minister. "We too can get commentators to make fake accounts and agitate a populace. We too can spread lies and promote conspiracy theories. We too can create a hostile, aggressive atmosphere where friendships can be ruined over cat videos. We too can manipulate and cause chaos. Blackacre fanned the flames in our home. Let's fan it right back and burn their house to the ground!"
[effect]@@NAME@@ is known as the land where trolls live

[option] "Stop trying to hide the truth!" yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, a passionate, everyday citizen. "CatGate is real! @@LEADER@@ is the bastard orphan of a genocidal dictator! Government officials worship Satan and sacrifice children to him! Violetists control the media and the government! My rights are being taken away by the immigrant communist homosexuals! This is reality, you cucks!"
[effect]conspiracy theories are the opiate of the masses

[option] "It's easy to discern the truth," calmly purrs your Education Minister. "I could easily identify any fake news articles that came my way. I know when someone is trolling me, and I don't allow strangers on the internet to provoke me or influence my perspective without evidence. People need to learn how to interpret information and comport themselves online. Classes taught by government teaches are the best solution to fight this deception."
[effect]the government tells citizens which news sources are credible

Thank you for your suggestions. The description has been edited accordingly. Minor edits to Option 3 were also made. Your other suggestions were not used. I'm not a fan of the cat thing. Option 4 is long enough and does not need to be added to.
Chan Island wrote:I'm pretty sure that's not what the word 'bi-partisan' means.

My mistake. Corrected.
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Postby Old Hope » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:47 am

Probably not applicable for nations with the No Internet policy.
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Postby Jutsa » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:13 am

I love this, MI :clap:

Kinda think that options 3 and 4 should be switched, but at the same time that might offend people that believe it's legit, so I'll let you decide.

PizzaGate is real!
On one hand, cult of the holy pizza really plays into this. On the other hand, this is an irl US thing that feels a bit misplaced...
idk, what do you think?

My rights are being taken away by the immigrant communist homosexuals!
On one hand, I'm not sure if this work for communist nations very well...
on the other hand: :rofl:

Maybe you could create an alternative options for communist nations that replaces "communist homosexuals" with "capitalist homosexuals"? :lol:

Satan
Hmm... Satan's only really mentioned in issue #42 and in the author of #100's name.
... aaalong with something else I'd rather not get into. :P

Overall a nice draft, as usual. Good luck :clap:

Edit: Forgot this effect line:
the government takes control of the internet in the name of national security
has taken control* I think, anyway. :P
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:43 am

Do you mean switched out of the issue?
naeh, I meant like 3 coming after 4 and 4 coming before 3.
Not a necessity; just an idea, though one that those who believe this stuff legit is real might not take to it. Up to you. :3

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Postby He Qixin » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:46 am

Ugh, I really need to step up my issues... :(

Still, good luck! :)
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:47 am

Good luck
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