[DECEASED] Weather or Not

[Shwe Tu Colony]

Underlined phrases are my own comments & notes & orange words are changes from the previous draft. If just the option & its number are orange, then a whole new option has been introduced. Based off of Our Almantee Deity Violins's comment on something. I vaguely tried to write this issue, since it was intended to be a joke/easter egg at first, but then I realized that it could make something of an issue.

Title: Weather or Not
Validity: Must have recently had a major decrease in the weather stat
Description: After one of your decisions, a particular section of your nation reported an abrupt increase in cloud coverage.

Option 1: "You should really learn to expect these things, @@LEADER@@," whines @@RANDOMNAME@@, an immigrant from a nation that once had several thousand meters of sunshine on a daily basis. "I know that it hardly seems related to your decision, but weather is a fickle force of nature! Go get a meteorology degree so you can make better guesses, and help our weather forecasters with a subsidy or a donation. Afterwards, maybe we'll finally understand why the weather's so strange so that we can get better predictions."
Fallout 1: weather forecasters are no longer considered liars

Option 2: "Weather! What a vile force of nature!" complains @@RANDOMNAME@@, a fan of science fiction. "That fickle opponent and ally, it simply enrages me when I see it act so insolently. Why, if I had the power, I would pour millions into taking over the weather. That way, we would could send storms to our enemies and ensure rain in times of drought, or stop storms from reaching our lands. Well, I don't have that power, but you do! You should get some of the sciencey folk to work on such a device. It'll take decades, but imagine the limitless power!"
Fallout 2: conspiracy theorists claim that the new weather-controlling project is for hiding aliens

Option 3: "A dome would be a better idea," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, an agoraphobic engineer. The other two have ideas that are ridiculously impractical; you don't have time to get a degree in meteorology, nor enough researches to possibly build devices to control the weather! But a dome? We only need some mathematics, some glass, and our best engineers, and you won't have to manage it much nor waste millions for something as ridiculously complex as a weather machine."
Fallout 3: deceased birds pile around the new dome surrounding @@NAME@@

(must have private industry)
Option 4: "On second thought, this might be a good thing," says the owner of a heating utilities company. "So this was apparently pretty mild, but now there's more clouds, right? That means it's colder because the sun shines, so more folk are staying inside. When they stay inside, they need heating from people like us and will buy games and such, since they won't want to run in slightly chilly weather. Which means more stuff is being bought or consumed, so more money is being made from companies. Which means more tax. Maybe less sunlight is better for the economy...?"
Fallout 4: heating companies rejoice whenever someone's death casts a dark shadow over the nation

[Shwe Tu Colony]

To make it easier to edit the original post, this post will be getting edited for previous copies so then I don't have to deal with a mile-long post each time I have to make a change.

Title: Weather or Not
Validity: Must have recently had a major decrease in the weather stat (is this tracked?)
Description: After one of your decisions, a particular section of your nation reported an abrupt change in their weather, suddenly changing the area from a bright and sunny tourist definition to one concealed by eternal cloud coverage.

Option 1: "You should really learn to expect these things, @@LEADER@@," whines @@RANDOMNAME@@, an immigrant from a nation that once had several thousand meters of sunshine on a daily basis. "I know that it hardly seems related to your decision, but weather is a fickle force of nature! Go get a meteorology degree so you can make better guesses, and help our weather forecasters with a subsidy or a donation. Afterwards, maybe we'll finally understand why the weather's so strange so that we can get better predictions."
Fallout 1: weather forecasters are no longer considered liars

Option 2: "Weather! What a vile force of nature!" complains @@RANDOMNAME@@, a fan of science fiction. "That fickle opponent and ally, it simply enrages me when I see it act so insolently. Why, if I had the power, I would pour millions into taking over the weather. That way, we would could send storms to our enemies and ensure rain in times of drought, or stop storms from reaching our lands. Well, I don't have that power, but you do! You should get some of the sciencey folk to work on such a device. It'll take decades, but imagine the limitless power!"
Fallout 2: conspiracy theorists claim that the new weather-controlling project is for hiding aliens

Option 3: "A dome would be a better idea," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, an agoraphobic engineer. The other two have ideas that are ridiculously impractical; you don't have time to get a degree in meteorology, nor enough researches to possibly build devices to control the weather! But a dome? We only need some mathematics, some glass, and our best engineers, and you won't have to manage it much nor waste millions for something as ridiculously complex as a weather machine."
Fallout 3: deceased birds pile around the new dome surrounding @@NAME@@

Title: Weather or Not (I'm considering doing "What's the Weather?". Which should I use?)
Validity: Must have recently had a major decrease in the weather stat (is this tracked?)
Description: After one of your decisions, a particular section of your nation reported an abrupt change in their weather, suddenly changing the area from a bright and sunny tourist definition to one concealed by eternal cloud coverage.

Option 1: "You should really learn to expect these things, @@LEADER@@," whines @@RANDOMNAME@@, an immigrant from a nation that once had several thousand meters of sunshine on a daily basis. "I know that it hardly seems related to your decision, but weather is a fickle force of nature! Go get a meteorology degree so you can make better guesses, and help our weather forecasters with a subsidy or a donation. Afterwards, maybe we'll finally understand why the weather's so strange so that we can fix it."
Fallout 1: weather forecasters are no longer considered liars

Option 2: "Weather! What a vile force of nature!" complains @@RANDOMNAME@@, a fan of science fiction. "That fickle opponent and ally, it simply enrages me when I see it act so insolently. Why, if I had the power, I would pour millions into taking over the weather. That way, we would be able to send storms to our enemies and ensure rain in times of drought, or stop storms from reaching our lands. Why, maybe you should get some of the sciencey folk to work on such a device. It'll take decades, but imagine the limitless power!"
Fallout 2: conspiracy theorists claim that the new weather controlling project is for hiding aliens

Option 3: "A dome would be a better idea," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, an agoraphobic engineer. "Their ideas are ridiculously impractical, you don't have time to get a degree in meteorology, nor enough scientific advancement to possibly build devices to control the weather! But a dome? We only need some mathematics, some glass, and our best engineers, and you won't have to manage it much nor waste millions for something as ridiculously complex as a weather machine."
Fallout 3: deceased birds pile around the new dome surrounding @@NAME@@

Title: Weather or Not (I'm considering doing "What's the Weather?". Which should I use?)
Validity: Must have recently had a decrease in the weather stat (is this tracked?)
Description: After one of your decisions, a particular section of your nation reported an abrupt change in their weather, suddenly changing the area from a bright and sunny tourist definition to a far more depressing, rainy area.

Option 1: "You should really learn to expect these things, @@LEADER@@," whines @@RANDOMNAME@@, an immigrant from a nation that once had several thousand meters of sunshine on a daily basis. "I know that it hardly seems related to your decision, but weather is a fickle force of nature! Go get a meteorology degree so you can make better guesses, and help our weather forecasters with a subsidy or a donation. Afterwards, maybe we'll finally understand why the weather's so strange so that we can fix it."
Fallout 1: weather forecasters are no longer considered liars

Option 2: "Weather! What a vile force of nature!" complains @@RANDOMNAME@@, a fan of science fiction. "That fickle opponent and ally, it simply enrages me when I see it act so insolently. Why, if I had the power, I would pour millions into taking over the weather. That way, we would be able to send storms to our enemies and ensure rain in times of drought, or stop storms from reaching our lands. Why, maybe you should get some of the sciencey folk to work on such a device. It'll take decades, but imagine the limitless power!"
Fallout 2: conspiracy theorists claim that the new weather controlling project is for hiding aliens

Option 3: "A dome would be a better idea," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, an agoraphobic engineer. "Their ideas are ridiculously impractical, you don't have time to get a degree in meteorology, nor enough scientific advancement to possibly build devices to control the weather! But a dome? We only need some mathematics, some glass, and our best engineers, and you won't have to manage it much nor waste millions for something as ridiculously complex as a weather machine."
Fallout 3: deceased birds pile around the new dome surrounding @@NAME@@

[Australian rePublic]

The problem with tracking amount of sunshine with how good weather is is that "excellent" weather by its definition implies desert, and in order for the desert to see a rapid, significant increase in rainfall, there would need to be a deliberate effort to green the desert, with one of the main goals to intentionally increase the rainfall. On the side of the spectrum, if an area recieved a sudden increase in rainfall, gloominess would be the least of your problems, especially if the cities weren't designed for the excess rain, in which you would get flooding. Combine this with the locals not kno
wing what to do in minor flash floods (unless they migrated from places where minor flash floods are normal), let alone any serious floods, and your problem goes beyond gloomy skies, into residents have to deal with weather events they're not used to.

[Shwe Tu Colony]

The problem with tracking amount of sunshine with how good weather is is that "excellent" weather by its definition implies desert, and in order for the desert to see a rapid, significant increase in rainfall, there would need to be a deliberate effort to green the desert, with one of the main goals to intentionally increase the rainfall. On the side of the spectrum, if an area recieved a sudden increase in rainfall, gloominess would be the least of your problems, especially if the cities weren't designed for the excess rain, in which you would get flooding. Combine this with the locals not kno
wing what to do in minor flash floods (unless they migrated from places where minor flash floods are normal), let alone any serious floods, and your problem goes beyond gloomy skies, into residents have to deal with weather events they're not used to.

Change it to cloud coverage increase rather than rain.

[He Qixin]

(No offense BTW)

I don't think this issue is worth writing if you change the validity. After all, small fluctuations in weather is something you see in all nations and is not something you can deal with directly, other than through, of course, by saving the environment. I think you can change the validity to "Nation must have bad weather" or "Nation must have seen a recent large percentage decrease in weather quality". Still, the issue draft is very well-written, though.

[Shwe Tu Colony]

(No offense BTW)

I don't think this issue is worth writing if you change the validity. After all, small fluctuations in weather is something you see in all nations and is not something you can deal with directly, other than through, of course, by saving the environment. I think you can change the validity to "Nation must have bad weather" or "Nation must have seen a recent large percentage decrease in weather quality". Still, the issue draft is very well-written, though.

I put in the large decrease part.

[Shwe Tu Colony]

Bump.

[Fauxia]

I could be wrong, but I don't think changes are tracked

[Shwe Tu Colony]

I could be wrong, but I don't think changes are tracked

I'll wait & see.

[Drasnia]

I could be wrong, but I don't think changes are tracked

So are changes tracked? The issue is triggered by a change in weather.

While I don't know how the game engine works, what I've gathered from my time in GI is this: there isn't really a way to say "after you have an increase/decrease of X amount or more, do this", but you can put triggers for multiple issues where it would be a guarantee that it would have that effect.

That said, I'm not a fan of the premise. What I would read as a player is this: "You were wrong. Do you want a second chance to be right?" This is a no-no in issue writing as there is no objectively right or wrong answer. You can have a validity about bad weather and talk about the weather being bad, but you can't tell the player they should have made a different decision.

That said, I am more extreme in respect of player agency and narrative dissonance.

[Shwe Tu Colony]

That said, I'm not a fan of the premise. What I would read as a player is this: "You were wrong. Do you want a second chance to be right?" This is a no-no in issue writing as there is no objectively right or wrong answer. You can have a validity about bad weather and talk about the weather being bad, but you can't tell the player they should have made a different decision.

I don't see how it's implying that. I've only said that there was a decrease in weather, but I never said if that that's not good. I guess I could rewrite it to make the decrease in weather occur somewhere that really didn't benefit from weather in the first place?

[Drasnia]

That said, I'm not a fan of the premise. What I would read as a player is this: "You were wrong. Do you want a second chance to be right?" This is a no-no in issue writing as there is no objectively right or wrong answer. You can have a validity about bad weather and talk about the weather being bad, but you can't tell the player they should have made a different decision.

I don't see how it's implying that. I've only said that there was a decrease in weather, but I never said if that that's not good. I guess I could rewrite it to make the decrease in weather occur somewhere that really didn't benefit from weather in the first place?

Your description boils down to "After one of your decisions, your country's gone to shit. How do you respond?"

[Shwe Tu Colony]

Your description boils down to "After one of your decisions, your country's gone to shit. How do you respond?"

I... tried fixing it. Poorly. By making it more ambiguous where the nation was affected & adding a new option that notes that maybe more weather is better, but it's exclusive to capitalist nations because I don't know if that option is reasonable for a communist nation since I don't know enough about communism to write anything about it, really. Still, that option notes that there is some advantage in a way.

Waits for Drasnia to tell me that I still didn't fix it (disclaimer: I am not implying that Drasnia or what they've said is indicative of them being a bad person or anything of that sort. This joke should not be perceived as an insult.)

[Candensia]

I don’t really see the ughh....issue in this. Drasnia’s comments aside, which I absolutely concur with, I’m not exactly seeing why this is worthy of @@LEADER@@‘s attention. What are we debating here?

What to do now that the weather stat has dropped?

[Shwe Tu Colony]

What to do now that the weather stat has dropped?

Stuff happened, people are complaining, so yes. On second thought, maybe I should delet this issue? It's starting to look like it maybe won't work.

[Shwe Tu Colony]

I've closed this issue, now.

[Australian rePublic]

Oh I liked the issue