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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:22 pm
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:
Description: In an attempt to curb his city's rising debt, Mayor Bernie Craigen attempted to politically annex the neighboring unincorporated territory of "The Stripe," an area known for its economic prosperity .... However, the residents there are attempting to resist this annexation by applying for township,



Aight then. How would option 2 work, then?


It wouldn't, but for the same reason it doesn't really work as is.

"Economic prosperity" is too vague, and makes the current draft read like a national-level economic dispute transposed to the local/city level. You'll need to rework the premise to specify a dispute that makes sense at the local/city level. What specifically is it that being absorbed into Neighbor Town would do to ruin things?

Casinos on The Stripe being afraid they'll get taxed a bit, or something, doesn't really capture an interesting dispute since presumably a defensively-created township will need to raise taxes for funding too.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:25 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:It wouldn't, but for the same reason it doesn't really work as is.

"Economic prosperity" is too vague, and makes the current draft read like a national-level economic dispute transposed to the local/city level. You'll need to rework the premise to specify a dispute that makes sense at the local/city level. What specifically is it that being absorbed into Neighbor Town would do to ruin things?


As the mayor says: "Yeah, it'll be a few taxes and a new politically-opposite government." If The Stripe was absorbed, they supposedly won't be able to do as well because of the mayor's decisions, which might revolve around paying off the debt to an extent. That could injure the businesses' profits, which is why they don't want to be absorbed.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:28 pm
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:It wouldn't, but for the same reason it doesn't really work as is.

"Economic prosperity" is too vague, and makes the current draft read like a national-level economic dispute transposed to the local/city level. You'll need to rework the premise to specify a dispute that makes sense at the local/city level. What specifically is it that being absorbed into Neighbor Town would do to ruin things?


As the mayor says: "Yeah, it'll be a few taxes and a new politically-opposite government." If The Stripe was absorbed, they supposedly won't be able to do as well because of the mayor's decisions, which might revolve around paying off the debt to an extent. That could injure the businesses' profits, which is why they don't want to be absorbed.


Repost for "need to stop editing posts after posting:"

Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:Casinos on The Stripe being afraid they'll get taxed a bit, or something, doesn't really capture an interesting dispute since presumably a defensively-created township will need to raise taxes for funding too.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:32 pm
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
I'd recommend inverting the Good Guy/Bad Guy division. Make The Stripe a wealthy enclave of hedonistic anti-govenrment casino types freeloading on some public service of the nearby/surrounding City (fire protection, down-on-their-luck bum relocation, etc.). City argues for annexation so that The Stripe can be made to pay their fair share! (and maybe a bit more for good measure!). The Stripe resists because FREEDOM! (to mooch!), etc.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:39 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:I'd recommend inverting the Good Guy/Bad Guy division. Make The Stripe a wealthy enclave of hedonistic anti-govenrment casino types freeloading on some public service of the nearby/surrounding City (fire protection, down-on-their-luck bum relocation, etc.). City argues for annexation so that The Stripe can be made to pay their fair share. The Stripe resists because FREEDOM! (to mooch!), etc.


That does seem like an actual issue, yes, more than the Paradise-based one (plus I'd like to make the reference to Paradise, Nevada's history a bit less apparent, just to). I'll try to get that into use... soon. However, it does seem strangely normal or standard: "this private industry" is doing something vaguely unfair or undesirable, "someone" doesn't like it, which is what a few other issues have done, albeit with different topics (like profiteering drug companies in #107: Private Lab Holds @@NAME@@'s Sick To Ransom & antibiotics being given to chickens in #563: Resistance is Fertile)

Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:Repost for "need to stop editing posts after posting:"


Well, we're both doing the editing thing.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:46 pm
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:That does seem like an actual issue, yes, more than the Paradise-based one (plus I'd like to make the reference to Paradise, Nevada's history a bit less apparent, just to). I'll try to get that into use... soon. However, it does seem strangely normal or standard: "this private industry" is doing something vaguely unfair or undesirable, "someone" doesn't like it, which is what a few other issues have done, albeit with different topics (like profiteering drug companies in #107: Private Lab Holds @@NAME@@'s Sick To Ransom & antibiotics being given to chickens in #563: Resistance is Fertile)


If we look at the full published issue space, I'd say we can fairly conclude that Evil Industry and Evil Government are both established and tired tropes.

What's new here is that the dynamic involves a local government vs. a (effectively) no government in a nation where devolution is an established policy. The player at some point will have made the assertion, through an option selection, that devolution is good. Your issue now presents the "yeah, but what about...?" This is a valid extension of this little corner of the issue space. It will be especially good if you make all your options cost something (that is, be "bad" in some reasonable way) rather than just have an obvious (and boring) good guy vs. evil guy.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:53 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:
If we look at the full published issue space, I'd say we can fairly conclude that Evil Industry and Evil Government are both established and tired tropes.

What's new here is that the dynamic involves a local government vs. a (effectively) no government in a nation where devolution is an established policy. The player at some point will have made the assertion, through an option selection, that devolution is good. Your issue now presents the "yeah, but what about...?" This is a valid extension of this little corner of the issue space. It will be especially good if you make all your options cost something (that is, be "bad" in some reasonable way) rather than just have an obvious (and boring) good guy vs. evil guy.


Hmm, aight then. Looks like the most major issues here have been covered, so now it's just a matter of editing the issue accordingly. Check in in, oh, maybe 40 business days. I should be done by then :U (making this post so you know that you won't have to pay attention here for a bit of time).

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:17 pm
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
As far as the title goes, do enough players know the ultra-minimal amount of Spanish needed to get the double meaning of Sin City?

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:19 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:As far as the title goes, do enough players know the ultra-minimal amount of Spanish needed to get the double meaning of Sin City?


I don't know enough Spanish to know what that means, unfortunately, but I think it might work.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:22 pm
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:As far as the title goes, do enough players know the ultra-minimal amount of Spanish needed to get the double meaning of Sin City?


I don't know enough Spanish to know what that means, unfortunately, but I think it might work.


https://translate.google.com/#es/en/sin%20city%3F

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:53 am
by Ab Humanitatis Scientiam
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Description: For the last few decades, the famous unincorporated territory and tourist destination of "The Stripe" has used an adjacent city's services rather than make its own. After a major fight between one of the many gangs and the city's police officers, the mayor has decided to try to annex them.


Make the mooching more explicit -- specify which of the city's services are being stolen. City's recycling centers are overflowing with used casino chips, or City's homeless shelters are filled with bankrupt gambling addicts, or...something.

Also, "City" needs a proper name.

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:24 pm
by Jutsa
Just wanted to mention that I love "Sin City". That's a really good name imo.

"Sins City" would be slightly better imo but both work.

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:12 pm
by Chan Island
I think after all of this time those brackets must stay in the actual submission. They have become time-honoured.

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 3:34 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:Make the mooching more explicit -- specify which of the city's services are being stolen. City's recycling centers are overflowing with used casino chips, or City's homeless shelters are filled with bankrupt gambling addicts, or...something.

Also, "City" needs a proper name.


Specified emergency services & gave the city the name of Les Prés, which is based off of Las Vegas (both mean about the same thing, albeit in different languages).

Chan Island wrote:I think after all of this time those brackets must stay in the actual submission. They have become time-honoured.


Which brackets?

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 12:08 am
by Chan Island
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Ab Humanitatis Scientiam wrote:Make the mooching more explicit -- specify which of the city's services are being stolen. City's recycling centers are overflowing with used casino chips, or City's homeless shelters are filled with bankrupt gambling addicts, or...something.

Also, "City" needs a proper name.


Specified emergency services & gave the city the name of Les Prés, which is based off of Las Vegas (both mean about the same thing, albeit in different languages).

Chan Island wrote:I think after all of this time those brackets must stay in the actual submission. They have become time-honoured.


Which brackets?


The ones in your title of course. You've had some there from the beginning.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:41 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Made some small edits.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:22 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Made some small edits.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:51 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Bump.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:07 am
by Chan Island
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Bump.


Submit it already! It's fine!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:31 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Chan Island wrote:
Submit it already! It's fine!


Yes, I suppose I shall.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:45 pm
by Sacara
Good luck! This has been up for awhile.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:25 pm
by Australian rePublic
Well, good luck!