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Jutsa
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Postby Jutsa » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:30 am

I figured that a nationalistic national anthem would be one that even the slightest gender bias would be harped on.
If you plan to go this route, then everything I said about sexism could probably be ignored and instead racism removed, and the validity changed to include more options.
If you want it only for 633.1, I'd go the opposite direction, but your draft does seem to fit this direction more...

Parlaiment is established in a few other issues,
but I probably should put a validity for having an electoral college policy

No, no, this was my bad. Don't worry about this. :)

Its supposed to be an irony, but for it to work I would have to specify the anti-female lines, which I was hesitant to do

That is actually kinda funny. :P
Definitely works better in the direction you seem to desire.

The slighted party never showed, so that means that if you want to complain, you have to complain within business days

I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around how this is relevant to the issue at hand.
That said, if you know for a fact this is how stuff works, I suppose you can keep it. :P

I like that idea of repealing the national anthem idea
Teehee, thanks. :blush:
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:47 am

Jutsa wrote:
I figured that a nationalistic national anthem would be one that even the slightest gender bias would be harped on.
If you plan to go this route, then everything I said about sexism could probably be ignored and instead racism removed, and the validity changed to include more options.
If you want it only for 633.1, I'd go the opposite direction, but your draft does seem to fit this direction more...

Parlaiment is established in a few other issues,
but I probably should put a validity for having an electoral college policy

No, no, this was my bad. Don't worry about this. :)

Its supposed to be an irony, but for it to work I would have to specify the anti-female lines, which I was hesitant to do

That is actually kinda funny. :P
Definitely works better in the direction you seem to desire.

The slighted party never showed, so that means that if you want to complain, you have to complain within business days

I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around how this is relevant to the issue at hand.
That said, if you know for a fact this is how stuff works, I suppose you can keep it. :P

I like that idea of repealing the national anthem idea
Teehee, thanks. :blush:

Does it shape up now?
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Postby Kacallia » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:53 am

I think you could try and throw in a bunch of feminist memes, like "she persisted" etc.

And it wouldn't be NS if there wasn't an option that took things too far. That is there should be an option where the language is not gender neutral, but made feminine.
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Postby Jutsa » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:57 am

:rofl:
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:36 am

I'm very glad that you're taking community criticisms and whatnots so well - speaks to me that you have the potential to be a pretty decent author. :)
Alright, Dolor Mortis, lets take a look here.

The Issue/Validity:
Valid for: nations who chose option 1 in Issue 633.
Nope! This can legitimately work for options 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and possibly 6. Put all those down. :lol:
After severe backlash, several people have came to voice their opinions.
have come*


@@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki
Uzumaki? Is this that one guy I see around in F7? :lol:

Option 3a does nothing different from option 1, so I'd just discard it.
As for option 3b, I don't think that really fits the narrative very well. I'd also remove this option, tbh.

Option 4:
"Considering that all of this was caused by choosing a national anthem,"
This is an unfinished sentence. Move
"Let's just repeal it.
to the first sentence. :P
durring international events, silence sounds for @@name@@'s anthem
1) During
2) I don't think @@NAME@@'s is allowed in effect lines, though I'm not certain.
3) Can't have commas.
"a moment of silence is played during international events to represent @@NAME@@" hopefully captures your effect line in a way that works for effect lines. :P


Option 5:
What you need is to show our people how we can show our love to women everhwhere,"
show people our love for women everywhere*
I think that's what you want there, though I'm not certain. :P
says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband.
:rofl:
You're certainly already getting better at this writing stuff. However, not all nations have marriage,
so you may want to have an alternate version of this for nations without marriage. I'd say just get rid of it... but that's really good. :rofl:
"I make sure that instead of "mansplaining", I just make sure to put things in her point of view. "
1) Remove "I make sure that" and capitalize the i in instead.
2) "mansplaining" should be 'mansplaining' with apostrophes instead of quotes.
men working in record in archives
in record in archives? Just wanted to point this out to you.


So, to summarize:
1) Probably remove options 3A and 3B;
2) Some more grammar/spelling fixtures and wording adjustments;
3) Expand the validity of this issue.

I like this very much, now. I think you do have a legitimate chance of having this in the game. :)
(not to encourage you too much though - editors are the ones who decide that, not me.)

Good luck, Dolor Mortis. :)
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:59 pm

Dolor Mortis wrote:Based on the current debate over the Canadian National Anthem.

Ttitle: "Patriotic or Patriarchal?"
Valid for: nations who answered issue 633
The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with a bill changing the national anthem's male lyrics to gender neutral ones. After severe backlash, several people have come to voice their opinions.

[Option 1]: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "I'm all for women's rights, but this is ridiculous!" she persisted, and slams the bill on your desk. "I'm a woman, and like the majority of women in @@NAME@@, none of us cared what it originally said. I say leave it be."
[Effect]: women's rights move one step forward and two steps back

[Option 2]: A blond teen messily eating a ramen bowl steps inside. "Hey! I'm @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki, and this is a great idea, believe it!" @@HE@@ slurps @@HIS@@ ramen quickly. "This shows that we value everyone, and if we change here, then everyone can change with us. The true path to peace is through understanding."
[Effect]: re-editing government databases to be gender neutral is absurdly time consuming


[Option 3]: "All of this trouble was caused by deciding on an national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions in a monotone voice. "Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
[Effect]: a moment of silence is played during international events to represent @@NAME@@

Valid for nations with marriage
[Option 4a]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love for women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband. "Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in her point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

Valid for nations who banned marriage
[Option 4b]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love for women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted domestic partner of many years. "Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in her point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with a bill changing the national anthem's male lyrics to gender neutral ones. After severe backlash, several people have came to voice their opinions.

[Option 1]: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "I'm all for women's rights, but this is ridiculous!" she persisted, and slams the bill on your desk. "I'm a woman, and like the majority of women in @@NAME@@, none of us cared what it originally said. I say leave it be."
[Effect]: women's rights move one step forward and two steps back

[Option 2]: A blond teen messily eating a ramen bowl steps inside. "Hey! I'm @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki, and this is a great idea, believe it!" @@HE@@ slurps @@HIS@@ ramen quickly. "This shows that we value everyone, and if we change here, then everyone can change with us. The true path to peace is through understanding."
[Effect]: re-editing government databases to be gender neutral is absurdly time consuming

Valid for high apathy and pacifism
[Option 3a]: "Why should I care, I don't even know the lyrics in the first place," lazily drawls @@RANDOMNAME@@, an average citizen. "We should just stay with what we've got, and no one will care. Please don't bother to ask my opinion about current trends in @@MajorIndustry@@."
[Effect]: while foreigners stand for the national anthem, @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ sit like bumps on logs

Valid for high apathy and Defense forces
[Option 3b]: "What?" yells, General @@randomlastname@@, of the @@demonynplural@@ Armed Forces. "We need to whip these pansies into shape! Start a recruitment drive! With these appalling opinions, who will lead us to victory?"
[Effect]: apathetic citizens are forced through "conditioning" if they blank at the sight of a tank

[Option 4]: "Considering that all of this was caused by choosing a national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions. "Let's just repeal it. Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
[Effect]: durring international events, silence sounds for @@name@@'s anthem

[Option 5]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love to women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband. "I make sure that instead of "mansplaining", I just make sure to put things in her point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record in archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with the sudden change of several patriotic lines in the national anthem. These patriotic lines were labeled as "offensive." Following the ensuing outrage on Tweeter, several people have come and asked you to do something.
Written By: Dolor Mortis

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "How dare these people claim to be offended! They're not even a part of the affected demographic!" she rages, and slams the bill on your desk. "The slighted party has not made themselves known, and as such, we should repeal the bill." She has a devious smile on her face. "If no-one is offended, then no-one will object to us preventing this from ever happening again."
[effect]: people who voice dissent with government policy must show up in person within 7 business days to make their case

Option 2: @@RANDOMNAME@@, who claims to be of the concerned demographic, is suddenly present. @@HE@@ wears a shirt reading "cissexism is real". "Hey! Those "patriotic" lines spout racist and sexist rhetoric! In order to feel proud to sing such a song, everyone must be equally represented. No-one should be forced to say anything that makes them feel uncomfortable."
[effect]: when banners reading "@@DEMONYM@@ Awareness Day" are shown, nobody speaks in fear of listening to the extended and equally representative national anthem playing on loudspeakers

Option 3: "Hey, I have a petition with over a thousand signatures," exclaims @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a 30-something holding a petition that reads, "Stop The Argument! Hold a Referendum". "I have here a piece of paper to blow all of your troubles away. Sign away at the bottom, and never wory about civil rights again!" She says looking a little too cheerful. "So, how about it, are you going to sign the petition or not!"
[effect]: all referendums exclude the minorities that hold them

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in @@HIS@@ hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," @@SHE@@ slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken." @@HE@@ turns and walks out.
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, said libertarian barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NATIONNAME@@ feel welcomed here," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, who speaks flamboyantly. "Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go. Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Here's a solution, let them wrestle their way to victory!" says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a former wrestler from the 70's. "Any decision we make will still make people unhappy. Why don't we let the people decide for themselves, with a wrestling match! Who ever wins will get to decide, and we can even make money from these yearly events! @@HE@@ then pulls your aide into a full Nelson.
[effect]: major civil rights issues are decided by weekly sensational televised matches draft 1


Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in her hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," she slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken."
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, the libertarian in question barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NAME@@ feel welcomed here. Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, speaking flamboyantly. "Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Here's a solution, let them wrestle their way to victory!" says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a former wrestler from the 70's. "Any decision we make will still make people unhappy. Why don't we let the people decide for themselves, with a wrestling match! Who ever wins will get to decide, and we can even make money from these yearly events!" He pulls your aid into a full Nelson.
[effect]: major civil rights issues are decided by weekly sensational televised matches

The Issue: Appearently, your Parliament had passed a bill changing the gender specific lines about a specific gender of @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ founding @@NAME@@ in your national anthem to gender neutral ones. Several people have come to petition this decision.
Written By: Dolor Mortis

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in her hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," she slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken."
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, the libertarian in question barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NAME@@ feel welcomed here. Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, speaking flamboyantly. "Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Hey, I have a petition with over a thousand signatures," exclaims @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a 30-something holding a petition that reads, "Stop The Argument! Hold a Referendum". "I have here a piece of paper to blow all of your troubles away. Sign away at the bottom, and never wory about civil rights again!" She says looking a little too cheerful. "So, how about it, are you going to sign the petition or not!"
[effect]: all referendums exclude the minorities that hold them
Last edited by Dolor Mortis on Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:03 pm

she persisted,
Option 1: she persists*

"All of this trouble was caused by deciding on an national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions in a monotone voice. "Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
Now there's no mention of repealing the anthem! Stick that back in. :lol:

Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in her point of view. You should try that too.
Who's this "her"? May wanny replace "her" with "my wife's".
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:44 pm

Dolor Mortis wrote:Based on the current debate over the Canadian National Anthem.

Ttitle: "Patriotic or Patriarchal?"
Valid for: nations who answered issue 633
The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with a bill changing the national anthem's male lyrics to gender neutral ones. After severe backlash, several people have come to voice their opinions.

[Option 1]: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "I'm all for women's rights, but this is ridiculous!" she persists, and slams the bill on your desk. "I'm a woman, and like the majority of women in @@NAME@@, none of us cared what it originally said. I say leave it be."
[Effect]: women's rights move one step forward and two steps back

[Option 2]: A blond teen messily eating a ramen bowl steps inside. "Hey! I'm @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki, and this is a great idea, believe it!" @@HE@@ slurps @@HIS@@ ramen quickly. "This shows that we value everyone, and if we change here, then everyone can change with us. The true path to peace is through understanding."
[Effect]: re-editing government databases to be gender neutral is absurdly time consuming


[Option 3]: "All of this trouble was caused by deciding on an national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions in a monotone voice. "Let's just repeal it. Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
[Effect]: a moment of silence is played during international events to represent @@NAME@@

Valid for nations with marriage
[Option 4a]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love for women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband. "Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in my wife's point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

Valid for nations who banned marriage
[Option 4b]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love for women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted domestic partner of many years. "Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in my girlfriend's point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with a bill changing the national anthem's male lyrics to gender neutral ones. After severe backlash, several people have came to voice their opinions.

[Option 1]: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "I'm all for women's rights, but this is ridiculous!" she persisted, and slams the bill on your desk. "I'm a woman, and like the majority of women in @@NAME@@, none of us cared what it originally said. I say leave it be."
[Effect]: women's rights move one step forward and two steps back

[Option 2]: A blond teen messily eating a ramen bowl steps inside. "Hey! I'm @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki, and this is a great idea, believe it!" @@HE@@ slurps @@HIS@@ ramen quickly. "This shows that we value everyone, and if we change here, then everyone can change with us. The true path to peace is through understanding."
[Effect]: re-editing government databases to be gender neutral is absurdly time consuming

Valid for high apathy and pacifism
[Option 3a]: "Why should I care, I don't even know the lyrics in the first place," lazily drawls @@RANDOMNAME@@, an average citizen. "We should just stay with what we've got, and no one will care. Please don't bother to ask my opinion about current trends in @@MajorIndustry@@."
[Effect]: while foreigners stand for the national anthem, @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ sit like bumps on logs

Valid for high apathy and Defense forces
[Option 3b]: "What?" yells, General @@randomlastname@@, of the @@demonynplural@@ Armed Forces. "We need to whip these pansies into shape! Start a recruitment drive! With these appalling opinions, who will lead us to victory?"
[Effect]: apathetic citizens are forced through "conditioning" if they blank at the sight of a tank

[Option 4]: "Considering that all of this was caused by choosing a national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions. "Let's just repeal it. Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
[Effect]: durring international events, silence sounds for @@name@@'s anthem

[Option 5]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love to women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband. "I make sure that instead of "mansplaining", I just make sure to put things in her point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record in archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with the sudden change of several patriotic lines in the national anthem. These patriotic lines were labeled as "offensive." Following the ensuing outrage on Tweeter, several people have come and asked you to do something.
Written By: Dolor Mortis

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "How dare these people claim to be offended! They're not even a part of the affected demographic!" she rages, and slams the bill on your desk. "The slighted party has not made themselves known, and as such, we should repeal the bill." She has a devious smile on her face. "If no-one is offended, then no-one will object to us preventing this from ever happening again."
[effect]: people who voice dissent with government policy must show up in person within 7 business days to make their case

Option 2: @@RANDOMNAME@@, who claims to be of the concerned demographic, is suddenly present. @@HE@@ wears a shirt reading "cissexism is real". "Hey! Those "patriotic" lines spout racist and sexist rhetoric! In order to feel proud to sing such a song, everyone must be equally represented. No-one should be forced to say anything that makes them feel uncomfortable."
[effect]: when banners reading "@@DEMONYM@@ Awareness Day" are shown, nobody speaks in fear of listening to the extended and equally representative national anthem playing on loudspeakers

Option 3: "Hey, I have a petition with over a thousand signatures," exclaims @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a 30-something holding a petition that reads, "Stop The Argument! Hold a Referendum". "I have here a piece of paper to blow all of your troubles away. Sign away at the bottom, and never wory about civil rights again!" She says looking a little too cheerful. "So, how about it, are you going to sign the petition or not!"
[effect]: all referendums exclude the minorities that hold them

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in @@HIS@@ hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," @@SHE@@ slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken." @@HE@@ turns and walks out.
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, said libertarian barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NATIONNAME@@ feel welcomed here," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, who speaks flamboyantly. "Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go. Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Here's a solution, let them wrestle their way to victory!" says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a former wrestler from the 70's. "Any decision we make will still make people unhappy. Why don't we let the people decide for themselves, with a wrestling match! Who ever wins will get to decide, and we can even make money from these yearly events! @@HE@@ then pulls your aide into a full Nelson.
[effect]: major civil rights issues are decided by weekly sensational televised matches draft 1


Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in her hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," she slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken."
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, the libertarian in question barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NAME@@ feel welcomed here. Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, speaking flamboyantly. "Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Here's a solution, let them wrestle their way to victory!" says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a former wrestler from the 70's. "Any decision we make will still make people unhappy. Why don't we let the people decide for themselves, with a wrestling match! Who ever wins will get to decide, and we can even make money from these yearly events!" He pulls your aid into a full Nelson.
[effect]: major civil rights issues are decided by weekly sensational televised matches

The Issue: Appearently, your Parliament had passed a bill changing the gender specific lines about a specific gender of @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ founding @@NAME@@ in your national anthem to gender neutral ones. Several people have come to petition this decision.
Written By: Dolor Mortis

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in her hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," she slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken."
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, the libertarian in question barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NAME@@ feel welcomed here. Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, speaking flamboyantly. "Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Hey, I have a petition with over a thousand signatures," exclaims @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a 30-something holding a petition that reads, "Stop The Argument! Hold a Referendum". "I have here a piece of paper to blow all of your troubles away. Sign away at the bottom, and never wory about civil rights again!" She says looking a little too cheerful. "So, how about it, are you going to sign the petition or not!"
[effect]: all referendums exclude the minorities that hold them
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:48 pm

Change the everhwhere to everywhere in both 4a and 4b. :P

Also change the validity to not include options 7 and 8 from issue 633.

Aside from that, I'm done here. It's a little thin, but I know some editors like that.
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:57 pm

Dolor Mortis wrote:Based on the current debate over the Canadian National Anthem.

Ttitle: "Patriotic or Patriarchal?"
Valid for: nations who answered issue 633, excludes 633.7 and 633.8
The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with a bill changing the national anthem's male lyrics to gender neutral ones. After severe backlash, several people have come to voice their opinions.

[Option 1]: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "I'm all for women's rights, but this is ridiculous!" she persists, and slams the bill on your desk. "I'm a woman, and like the majority of women in @@NAME@@, none of us cared what it originally said. I say leave it be."
[Effect]: women's rights move one step forward and two steps back

[Option 2]: A blond teen messily eating a ramen bowl steps inside. "Hey! I'm @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki, and this is a great idea, believe it!" @@HE@@ slurps @@HIS@@ ramen quickly. "This shows that we value everyone, and if we change here, then everyone can change with us. The true path to peace is through understanding."
[Effect]: re-editing government databases to be gender neutral is absurdly time consuming


[Option 3]: "All of this trouble was caused by deciding on an national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions in a monotone voice. "Let's just repeal it. Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
[Effect]: a moment of silence is played during international events to represent @@NAME@@

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[Option 4a]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love for women everywhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband. "Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in my wife's point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

Valid for nations who banned marriage
[Option 4b]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love for women everywhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted domestic partner of many years. "Instead of 'mansplaining', I just make sure to put things in my girlfriend's point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with a bill changing the national anthem's male lyrics to gender neutral ones. After severe backlash, several people have came to voice their opinions.

[Option 1]: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "I'm all for women's rights, but this is ridiculous!" she persisted, and slams the bill on your desk. "I'm a woman, and like the majority of women in @@NAME@@, none of us cared what it originally said. I say leave it be."
[Effect]: women's rights move one step forward and two steps back

[Option 2]: A blond teen messily eating a ramen bowl steps inside. "Hey! I'm @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Uzumaki, and this is a great idea, believe it!" @@HE@@ slurps @@HIS@@ ramen quickly. "This shows that we value everyone, and if we change here, then everyone can change with us. The true path to peace is through understanding."
[Effect]: re-editing government databases to be gender neutral is absurdly time consuming

Valid for high apathy and pacifism
[Option 3a]: "Why should I care, I don't even know the lyrics in the first place," lazily drawls @@RANDOMNAME@@, an average citizen. "We should just stay with what we've got, and no one will care. Please don't bother to ask my opinion about current trends in @@MajorIndustry@@."
[Effect]: while foreigners stand for the national anthem, @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ sit like bumps on logs

Valid for high apathy and Defense forces
[Option 3b]: "What?" yells, General @@randomlastname@@, of the @@demonynplural@@ Armed Forces. "We need to whip these pansies into shape! Start a recruitment drive! With these appalling opinions, who will lead us to victory?"
[Effect]: apathetic citizens are forced through "conditioning" if they blank at the sight of a tank

[Option 4]: "Considering that all of this was caused by choosing a national anthem," says your Minister of Bland Solutions. "Let's just repeal it. Who needs a tune to bind our people anyway?"
[Effect]: durring international events, silence sounds for @@name@@'s anthem

[Option 5]: "Hey, that's boring. What you need is to show our people how we can show our love to women everhwhere," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a totally whipped and devoted househusband. "I make sure that instead of "mansplaining", I just make sure to put things in her point of view. You should try that too."
[Effect]: men working in record in archives have to ask women how they should be portrayed in history

The Issue: Yesterday afternoon, a session of Parliament was concluded with the sudden change of several patriotic lines in the national anthem. These patriotic lines were labeled as "offensive." Following the ensuing outrage on Tweeter, several people have come and asked you to do something.
Written By: Dolor Mortis

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old MP, slams open your office door with a copy of the bill in her hands. "How dare these people claim to be offended! They're not even a part of the affected demographic!" she rages, and slams the bill on your desk. "The slighted party has not made themselves known, and as such, we should repeal the bill." She has a devious smile on her face. "If no-one is offended, then no-one will object to us preventing this from ever happening again."
[effect]: people who voice dissent with government policy must show up in person within 7 business days to make their case

Option 2: @@RANDOMNAME@@, who claims to be of the concerned demographic, is suddenly present. @@HE@@ wears a shirt reading "cissexism is real". "Hey! Those "patriotic" lines spout racist and sexist rhetoric! In order to feel proud to sing such a song, everyone must be equally represented. No-one should be forced to say anything that makes them feel uncomfortable."
[effect]: when banners reading "@@DEMONYM@@ Awareness Day" are shown, nobody speaks in fear of listening to the extended and equally representative national anthem playing on loudspeakers

Option 3: "Hey, I have a petition with over a thousand signatures," exclaims @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a 30-something holding a petition that reads, "Stop The Argument! Hold a Referendum". "I have here a piece of paper to blow all of your troubles away. Sign away at the bottom, and never wory about civil rights again!" She says looking a little too cheerful. "So, how about it, are you going to sign the petition or not!"
[effect]: all referendums exclude the minorities that hold them

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in @@HIS@@ hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," @@SHE@@ slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken." @@HE@@ turns and walks out.
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, said libertarian barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NATIONNAME@@ feel welcomed here," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, who speaks flamboyantly. "Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go. Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Here's a solution, let them wrestle their way to victory!" says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a former wrestler from the 70's. "Any decision we make will still make people unhappy. Why don't we let the people decide for themselves, with a wrestling match! Who ever wins will get to decide, and we can even make money from these yearly events! @@HE@@ then pulls your aide into a full Nelson.
[effect]: major civil rights issues are decided by weekly sensational televised matches draft 1


Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in her hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," she slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken."
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, the libertarian in question barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NAME@@ feel welcomed here. Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, speaking flamboyantly. "Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Here's a solution, let them wrestle their way to victory!" says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a former wrestler from the 70's. "Any decision we make will still make people unhappy. Why don't we let the people decide for themselves, with a wrestling match! Who ever wins will get to decide, and we can even make money from these yearly events!" He pulls your aid into a full Nelson.
[effect]: major civil rights issues are decided by weekly sensational televised matches

The Issue: Appearently, your Parliament had passed a bill changing the gender specific lines about a specific gender of @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ founding @@NAME@@ in your national anthem to gender neutral ones. Several people have come to petition this decision.
Written By: Dolor Mortis

Option 1: @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, an old stuffy PM, walks into your office with a copy of the bill in her hands. "This is a disgrace, and it spits on all of our traditions," she slams the bill on your desk. "The only reason that this even passed was because of those pansy, "rightous" libertarians. We need not pander to those who want to change something that was never broken."
[effect]: any mentions of gender inequality are shot down by belting the national anthem as loudly as possible

Option 2: Suddenly, the libertarian in question barges in, and is wearing a shirt that reads, "Hugs and Kindness". "I only want to make everyone in @@NAME@@ feel welcomed here. Those outdated, gender biased lines have to go," says @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, speaking flamboyantly. "Change the anthem, and everyone will feel at home." He sits on the nearby couch and pulls an abused cat out of nowhere.
[effect]: men in black suits show up to change pronouns on government property unannounced

Option 3: "Hey, I have a petition with over a thousand signatures," exclaims @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, a 30-something holding a petition that reads, "Stop The Argument! Hold a Referendum". "I have here a piece of paper to blow all of your troubles away. Sign away at the bottom, and never wory about civil rights again!" She says looking a little too cheerful. "So, how about it, are you going to sign the petition or not!"
[effect]: all referendums exclude the minorities that hold them
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:11 pm

Make sure to post this in the OP too, so people can read it from there right away. Good luck. :)
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:46 pm

Jutsa wrote:Make sure to post this in the OP too, so people can read it from there right away. Good luck. :)

It already is.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:11 pm

Alrighty! (I didn't actually check, sorry about that. :P)
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:53 am

Jutsa wrote:Alrighty! (I didn't actually check, sorry about that. :P)

It's all good. I am submitting this Today!
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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:48 am

Dolor Mortis wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Hello. Not a bad little issue you got here. Now, let's take a look:
Option 3 would be better in an option about democracy in general, rather than anything specific

So instead of wrestler, a petitioner instead?

That could work
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Postby Jutsa » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:21 pm

I'd leave it up for a few more days, at least, since I'm not a great last-reviewer. :P

Good luck to you regardless, though.
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:49 pm

Jutsa wrote:I'd leave it up for a few more days, at least, since I'm not a great last-reviewer. :P

Good luck to you regardless, though.

I probably will, I've been soo busy.
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:18 am

Ladies and gents, this issue has been submitted.
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Postby Jutsa » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:04 am

Good luck to you. I fear I can't guarantee that this'll make it to the game...
but I do hope it does. I'm sure an editor won't mind working out the details with you, either. :)
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Postby Dolor Mortis » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:29 pm

Jutsa wrote:Good luck to you. I fear I can't guarantee that this'll make it to the game...
but I do hope it does. I'm sure an editor won't mind working out the details with you, either. :)

Yea.
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