Issue outcome makes no sense

[Virea]

To my opinion at least, some issues outcomes make no sense. Just now for example, I had an issue with the enviroment, and I let the farmers use whatever chemicals they want to grow their plants. And my agriculture dropped by 40%. Is that intended and if so can someone explain why? (issue 599)

[Tinhampton]

To my opinion at least, some issues outcomes make no sense. Just now for example, I had an issue with the enviroment, and I let the farmers use whatever chemicals they want to grow their plants. And my agriculture dropped by 40%. Is that intended and if so can someone explain why? (issue 599)

Option 4 (the one beginning "With a wrench and some salty language..."), I believe?

[Vando0sa]

Chemicals destroy the environment.. and thus agriculture.. balance of nature is delicate.

[Bluelight-R006]

Chemicals destroy the environment.. and thus agriculture.. balance of nature is delicate.

I agree. The issue actually makes sense because plants and sort could die with the overusage of chemicals. So as the bunch rest.

[Diyaristan]

Chemicals destroy the environment.. and thus agriculture.. balance of nature is delicate.

Not true. Technically, everything you touch or eat is a chemical - it is constructed of molecules. Chemicals are found in nature. Chemistry is the science of making use of these chemicals derived from nature and they are a product of man's mind, without which civilization, and the computer you are enjoying right now, would not exist. Applied to agriculture, they have made crop cultivation possible in nutrition-deprived waste environments.

A few other issues have outcomes that make no sense due to the math behind the engine, which varies by government type. Example: supporting that aristocrat on the famine issue with no relief for the poor increasing income equality.

[Bluelight-R006]

Chemicals destroy the environment.. and thus agriculture.. balance of nature is delicate.

Not true. Technically, everything you touch or eat is a chemical - it is constructed of molecules. Chemicals are found in nature. Chemistry is the science of making use of these chemicals derived from nature and they are a product of man's mind, without which civilization, and the computer you are enjoying right now, would not exist. Applied to agriculture, they have made crop cultivation possible in nutrition-deprived waste environments.

A few other issues have outcomes that make no sense due to the math behind the engine, which varies by government type. Example: supporting that aristocrat on the famine issue with no relief for the poor increasing income equality.

In my opinion, common chemicals, like used in food, which are always allowed, are non-harmful but some chemicals for other things can be poisonous.

Just a guess.

[Vando0sa]

Maybe the chemicals are messing with insects..

I've learned a lesson recently. We had a serious ant problem so I used chemicals to kill the ants. Finally I won and the ants are no more in our house. Now we have roaches.. turns out the roaches are ants natural food.. and with the ants gone the roaches took over..

[Diyaristan]

To Bluelight: Some chemicals are engineered to cause devastation (chemical weapons for example), it is true. Others have unforeseen side effects, true, but by and large most atomic arrangements are not poisonous. If research stopped, it would kill many more people - think how the population exploded in the past two centuries with the advent of modern science and the Industrial Revolution. So many less people were dying.

To Vandoosa: Thanks for bringing that up about the bugs; I hope what I say will help: I had a problem with bug invasions in my home one time, one after another. First ants (fire ants, as I live in the South), then roaches. The first two problems were tackled by using a combination of poisons and sealed food storage for what we could - whole nests of both creatures were killed off, the incentive (easy food) was removed, and what poison was there kept the populations from getting established again if they came.

In raw nature, it is a warzone. Animals kill each other for territory, or food. Defending yours vigorously, and ruthlessly driving them out, is better for your quality of life than an infestation of anything going unchallenged.

[Vando0sa]

The biggest problem with using chemicals to rid your area of land of unwanted pests is it still ends up in run off water. It will cause problems in the eco system eventually.. I suspect the large amount of plants in my garden dying off might also have been linked to me chemical nuking everything to kill ants..


We can't stop using pesticides or all our crops will be wiped out naturally.. what a conflict..

[Bears Armed]

The biggest problem with using chemicals to rid your area of land of unwanted pests is it still ends up in run off water. It will cause problems in the eco system eventually.. I suspect the large amount of plants in my garden dying off might also have been linked to me chemical nuking everything to kill ants..


We can't stop using pesticides or all our crops will be wiped out naturally.. what a conflict..

"So take a glance, at those tasty ants,
And maybe try a few...
The bear necessities of life will come to you!".
[/Baloo]

[Diyaristan]

The biggest problem with using chemicals to rid your area of land of unwanted pests is it still ends up in run off water. It will cause problems in the eco system eventually.. I suspect the large amount of plants in my garden dying off might also have been linked to me chemical nuking everything to kill ants..


We can't stop using pesticides or all our crops will be wiped out naturally.. what a conflict..

Usually, when problems do happen, people recognize it and move to reverse the damage. For instance, you're making an analysis of the costs and benefits of getting rid of roaches versus the security of your water supply down the line. You're trying to discover better methods, since you in person know the situation best.

To complicate this issue on a global scale, diseases from food. In countries where pesticides and manufactured fertilizers are not used/not available, there is a very high incidence of parasitic infection transmission through vegetables due to the use of raw-nature substances that attract worms and harmful bacteria, like manure. That's not good for a man's living environment at all. Many have died for lack of clean water by that means too; a common problem especially in Africa.

[Vando0sa]

The biggest problem with using chemicals to rid your area of land of unwanted pests is it still ends up in run off water. It will cause problems in the eco system eventually.. I suspect the large amount of plants in my garden dying off might also have been linked to me chemical nuking everything to kill ants..


We can't stop using pesticides or all our crops will be wiped out naturally.. what a conflict..

"So take a glance, at those tasty ants,
And maybe try a few...
The bear necessities of life will come to you!".
[/Baloo]

Eating ants might seem like a good idea but not so much in the Southern US.. those ants bite back.. With fire and fury..

EEP! i'm getting a bit off topic.. *runs away*

[Diyaristan]

"So take a glance, at those tasty ants,
And maybe try a few...
The bear necessities of life will come to you!".
[/Baloo]

Eating ants might seem like a good idea but not so much in the Southern US.. those ants bite back.. With fire and fury..

EEP! i'm getting a bit off topic.. *runs away*

Oof, owch, owie, my tongue. Get it off, get it off!

[Ransium]

OP there is a megathread for these inquires:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=424650

Often I find the problem to be not so careful reading of th option. Here’s what you picked:

With a wrench and some salty language, the captain lands the ‘fish,’ a woman in a scuba suit. Floundering on deck, she fumes, “Aggh! I can’t see anything down there, with all that gunk from the estuary! Rumor has it there’s shipwrecks down there, but I’ve never seen one. Look, the problem here is chemical fertilizer run off from farms, so why not fix the problem back at the farms with better chemicals? Oblige the farmers to add chlorine bleach to the water supply in proportion to the fertilizers they use, and your rivers and seas will boast crystal clear water!”

So bleach (added to make the water clear) isn’t really the greatest for crop growth.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

How does expanding my space program increase religiousness? Or my IT industry get negatively affected because of a war on the other side of the world?

[Leutria]

How does expanding my space program increase religiousness? Or my IT industry get negatively affected because of a war on the other side of the world?

Secondary effects. Also, use the megathread if you have an issue with a specific issue.

[Ransium]

Leutria is correct. If this turns into a generic unusual issue effects thread I’ll lock it. Use the megathread.

[Snurdly]

I just got an issue about a national day. There was a patriotic option, a military option, a nudism option, and a no-holiday option. Consistent with my leadership style, I selected the nudism option. It had some confusing impacts, but apparently no impact on my nudity ranking, which remains at an embarrassing 5% in the world, 6% in the region. If I can somehow get to the top 0.7% in foreign aid, and the top 1% in welfare, why can't I get my people naked?

Hiram Tweedle
President Snurdly

[Ransium]

People are already as free to get naked as they want in Snurdly. Either make nudism mandatory or focus on secondary effects related to nudism.

As promised this thread is now locked. Use the megathead people.