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The Onox Legion
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Founded: Sep 20, 2021
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Postby The Onox Legion » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:20 am

Issue 902 "Killer App" option 3:

"Career advisors ask sociopathic orphan girls if they have considered becoming professional assassins."

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The Yellow ones are only semi-serious complaints, but I find it weird that legalizing assassination to cause crime and the black market to go up, when it legalizes it and therefore making it neither a crime nor the market black. A more serious oddity is the lifespan bit. Legalizing assassination should not move that one up, tbh.
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Trotterdam
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:58 am

Not my own nation, but something I noticed someone posting about: apparently, the "rampant corporate plagiarism" notability (given for abolishing copyright law) is shown even on socialist nations, that shouldn't have corporations. (Or should this go in Technical? How much control do issue editors have over the notabilities?)

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Fel Dramalis
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Founded: Sep 09, 2019
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1193 Relocating the Living Room

Postby Fel Dramalis » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:05 pm

Issue #1193 asks that we decide how we're going to attempt to annex Ausonian territory, if we choose to do so at all. Fel Dramalis exists to see how high the Defense Forces stat can go, so of course I chose option 1, in which "General Snape" told me to send in the tanks and conquer the place. My Defense Stat... shrank, dropping from 88,103.75 to 88,052.13. I'm confuzzled.

Edit: I'd forgotten about this issue's strange results until I answered it the same way with another puppet of mine, Fel Tirynthas. Similar results, Defense shrinking marginally when the option suggests otherwise. Fel Tirynthas and Fel Dramalis are similarly-constructed Defense min-maxers, so it's not a surprise that something affecting one of them would affect the other the same way, but I bring it up in case someone needs more data.
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Pogaria
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Founded: Antiquity
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pogaria » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:16 pm

Trotterdam wrote:Not my own nation, but something I noticed someone posting about: apparently, the "rampant corporate plagiarism" notability (given for abolishing copyright law) is shown even on socialist nations, that shouldn't have corporations. (Or should this go in Technical? How much control do issue editors have over the notabilities?)

You might want to post that in Technical. Issues Editors can't change those.


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Many of the Issues Editors (including myself) are either away or have limited availability right now due to various reasons. We may not be able to review these reports until later.
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Entropyistan
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Founded: May 14, 2021
Anarchy

Postby Entropyistan » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:18 am

110.2 dissolved my government and yet increased taxes by 7.2%. How does that even make sense? How is there even a marginal increase in taxes? If anything, they should be slashed. Literally makes zero sense.

Edit: I got this message before accepting the issue and taxes still went up higher than they ever have before in the entire history of this nation. Does not make any sense whatsoever

Edit 2: another one. Sigh. 759.3, again an option that literally requests a reduction in government, actually increased taxes. I can maybe see how this one works though, because it mentions removing tax breaks. Still, it is asking to remove government oversight from the wedding industry. Ergo, taxes need to drop.

Edit 3: here we go again. 37.3, again an issue answer which specifically requests less regulation, managed to increase taxes. There must be a bug in the code for effective tax rate or something, because this is absolutely ridiculous.

What in the world is going on with NS stats lately and why aren't they doing what the issue answers request?

If an issue answer alludes to fewer regulations and less governance, then taxes need to proportionally decrease.
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Happiness-
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Founded: Jun 24, 2017
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Happiness- » Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:40 am

No. 286, A Whale of a Problem

Chose option 2, answered by Happiness-, 11/2/2021 Central Time

Abolishes animal protections, result text reads "Seafood restaurants assure customers 'If it lives in the sea, it's on our menu."

There was no change to trout fishing industry in stat effects. I may have already answered this issue before & abolished animal protections, but I'd think the effects would just keep stacking. I'd assume ending sea life protections & text reading about seafood, the trout industry would change. The FAQ says no stat changes means I'm continuing my course, but I don't know why it'd have 20 other stat changes as well then.
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Dominions Pizza
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Founded: Aug 17, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Dominions Pizza » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:53 am

Issue 893, "Bread is the Stuff of Strife".
I select that ‘complimentary’ add-ons are a waste (option 1), thinking that this will put people off going to restaurants.
My logic is that fewer people in restaurants means more people want Pizza Delivery.
However, my Pizza Delivery drops 1.5% (I've a high score, around 19,000)

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Outer Sparta
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Founded: Dec 26, 2014
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:05 pm

Dominions Pizza wrote:Issue 893, "Bread is the Stuff of Strife".
I select that ‘complimentary’ add-ons are a waste (option 1), thinking that this will put people off going to restaurants.
My logic is that fewer people in restaurants means more people want Pizza Delivery.
However, my Pizza Delivery drops 1.5% (I've a high score, around 19,000)

I think the Pizza Delivery industry is an extension of the restaurant industry as a whole based on NS classifications.
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Random Country 453632
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Founded: Jun 09, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Random Country 453632 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:44 pm

I chose option 2 on Issue #1478 Two Sides Of A Coin, which is about putting unissued historic coins into museums. For some reason, food quality went up more than tourism?

Also it appears that issue #1478 is the newest issue here
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Dominions Pizza
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Dominions Pizza » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:27 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Dominions Pizza wrote:Issue 893, "Bread is the Stuff of Strife".
I select that ‘complimentary’ add-ons are a waste (option 1), thinking that this will put people off going to restaurants.
My logic is that fewer people in restaurants means more people want Pizza Delivery.
However, my Pizza Delivery drops 1.5% (I've a high score, around 19,000)

I think the Pizza Delivery industry is an extension of the restaurant industry as a whole based on NS classifications.

You may be right (counter-intuitively, banning knives and forks hammered my pizza delivery - viewtopic.php?p=38649484#p38649484)

But on the flip side, I'm sure I've come across issues where choosing the option to boost burger sales hammers pizza too.

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Corvinna
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Founded: Sep 27, 2010
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Corvinna » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:54 pm

For the issue Pretty Pass, I chose to open my arms manufacturing market in exchange for open visas. as a result, my arms manufacturing stats went down.
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Celebrur
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Founded: Jul 24, 2021
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Celebrur » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:48 pm

In the dilemma 'Light at the End of the Tunnel' I chose to further fund research towards depression medication, it resulted in my scientific advancement decreasing and my primitiveness increasing. This happened today on my nation.

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Shwe Tu Colony
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Founded: Sep 27, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:18 am

It's been a while.

Anyway, I chose option 3 for Issue No. 232 "Get Teens Out of MyFace," but it increased my Social Conservatism and Authoritarianism, which seems at least a little odd considering: "remove all restrictions on what adults can view and increase restrictions on minors. But at the same time, lower the age of majority by a lot." I don't necessarily disagree — I can see a roundabout explanation for why the state had to become more authoritarian and where the conservatism rose — but it was enough to at least give me pause.
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Ultraborea State
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Founded: Nov 16, 2021
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Ultraborea State » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:40 pm

Hi I would like to report a little problem with the issue Issue No. 1056
The first option says:
A rigidly-enforced Working Time Directive should cap anyone from working more than 74 hours 22 minutes per week, with no more than 11.75 hours per shift,” definitively states analyst @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Bannon, presenting you with a stack of hand-written calculations. “This will benefit safety, health, and quality of life, while also creating more jobs within the economy"
When I chose the option, the employment level dropped

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Leroysia
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Founded: Nov 12, 2021
New York Times Democracy

Postby Leroysia » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:58 am

Issue #853 deals with cell phones in theaters. I chose the option to allow them and invest in cell infrastructure.

Logically this would mean an increase in the construction of cell towers, satellites, components used in cell phones, vehicles and equipment used by telecommunications companies, etc. However, there was a decrease in Mining, Employment, and Manufacturing.

These were minor decreases but it is confusing. Mining would be necessary for the metals to construct all items noted above. Manufacturing would increase to generate the goods as there is no indication on the issue of importing from other nations rather than producing. Employment should then increase accordingly, as someone has to do the mining and manufacturing, plus maintenance and other work related to infrastructure.

Is there reasoning behind the decrease in these areas?

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Steelfeather Rapture 1
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Founded: Aug 18, 2021
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Steelfeather Rapture 1 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:48 pm

Two things. First off, favoring abortion rights caused a drop in civil rights, which is unnatural. Secondly, why does rationing water cause a drop in civil rights? I think both of those issues are providing bad results.
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SherpDaWerp
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Founded: Mar 02, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby SherpDaWerp » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:19 pm

Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:First off, favoring abortion rights caused a drop in civil rights, which is unnatural.
The Free Joy State wrote:Awhile back, the team (aware of the deep and personal feelings around the sensitive issue of abortion) took the -- perhaps controversial decision -- to (generally speaking, allowing for individual stats) programme a civil rights rise for both banning and allowing abortion.

Due to the strength of emotion it raises, we felt it inappropriate to come down on either side of this debate.
While this quote talks about stat rises and not drops, it's clear that the editors have decided to code abortion stats to change civil rights independently of what side you are on. For instance (using made up analogy stats), maybe "rights of children" make up a majority share of your civil rights, and by favoring abortion rights, your "rights of women"-increase wasn't enough to outweigh the drop in "rights of children".

Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:Secondly, why does rationing water cause a drop in civil rights?
Because you're forcing people to ration water? More regulation of personal lives -> less civil rights.
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Disgraces
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Postby Disgraces » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:01 am

I think option 1 in issue 537 "Summary Injustice" is supposed to cancel the no judicial system policy but it doesn't

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:10 am

Disgraces wrote:I think option 1 in issue 537 "Summary Injustice" is supposed to cancel the no judicial system policy but it doesn't

Please see my answer to your original query here.

Although, for future reference, this was the correct thread for effect queries.
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