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by Han Rukh » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:28 am
by All are Equal » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:41 pm
by Luna Amore » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:43 pm
All are Equal wrote:Banning censorship UPS Authoritarianism? Sounds contradictory, but I'm sure the logic will be obvious once it's pointed out to me.
by Kamsund » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:36 pm
by Hamramstan » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:50 pm
La Badlandoj wrote:Thanks for your answer in the last one!
193.1 (giving jobs back to workers after automation kicked them out) lowered my Employment by 3.6%, the inverse of my prediction. What happened with that? Are the employers now habitually outsourcing? Do the newly unemployed robots count as citizens?
by Trotterdam » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:47 pm
This action limits political freedom (people aren't allowed to protest), but raises economic freedom (no pesky environmental protection laws). If people already weren't allowed to protest, but you did have environmental protections, you'd feel the latter effect more.Kamsund wrote:This is totally authoritarian, right? But I lost 37,4% of authoritarianism.
by Ransium » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:15 pm
Trotterdam wrote:This action limits political freedom (people aren't allowed to protest), but raises economic freedom (no pesky environmental protection laws). If people already weren't allowed to protest, but you did have environmental protections, you'd feel the latter effect more.Kamsund wrote:This is totally authoritarian, right? But I lost 37,4% of authoritarianism.
Generally, I would recommend against looking at Authoritarianism as a primary stat. What you should be looking at is the three freedoms: Civil Rights, Economic Freedom, and Political Freedom. Authoritarianism is derived from those, and so shouldn't ever do something illogical unless one of those three did.
by Roman-Britannic Empire » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:06 pm
by Trotterdam » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:25 pm
by Roman-Britannic Empire » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:43 pm
Trotterdam wrote:You're deporting him to somewhere he would likely get a worse punishment than if he were tried and sentenced in your own nation... or at least that's what the option implies (it never actually says what he's wanted for in Maxtopia, and I'm not sure if the issue has any validities regarding how harsh your own nation's justice system is).
by Ransium » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:12 pm
“We don’t want the little brat back!” declares the Brancalandian Foreign Minister, seen smashing Bryan Leeper CDs with a hockey stick. “I bumped into the Maxtopian ambassador on my way here. It seems that Mr. Leeper has an outstanding legal issue over in Maxtopia that could involve jail time if he’s found guilty. Why not extradite him there as a diplomatic move? What’s that? Well yes, Maxtopia has the death penalty. I’m sure he hasn’t done anything that serious there.”
by La Badlandoj » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:39 pm
by Kamsund » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:19 pm
Generally, I would recommend against looking at Authoritarianism as a primary stat. What you should be looking at is the three freedoms: Civil Rights, Economic Freedom, and Political Freedom. Authoritarianism is derived from those, and so shouldn't ever do something illogical unless one of those three did.
by Trotterdam » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:45 am
...I don't understand the question?Kamsund wrote:Thank you, but how about Defense Forces and Industry in general? Which freedom should be focused?
by Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:44 am
La Badlandoj wrote:467.3 (children consenting to their own body modification) decreased my Civil Rights by over a point. I can vaguely guess why, but my CR is pretty low right now, so I can't see how that'd reduce my freedom rather than increasing it.
by Azurius » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:51 pm
Han Rukh wrote:With this nation, I just answered #023: Uranium Deposit Promises To Enrich @@NAME@@ with the first option, to cut down the rainforest, and my Eco-Friendliness just rose by 275%. That was an increase of 550~ points, which now puts me in the top half of the world's nations by Eco-Friendliness. I don't get the link between cutting down rainforests and Eco-Friendliness, am I missing something here?
by Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:24 pm
Azurius wrote:Han Rukh wrote:With this nation, I just answered #023: Uranium Deposit Promises To Enrich @@NAME@@ with the first option, to cut down the rainforest, and my Eco-Friendliness just rose by 275%. That was an increase of 550~ points, which now puts me in the top half of the world's nations by Eco-Friendliness. I don't get the link between cutting down rainforests and Eco-Friendliness, am I missing something here?
This is easily explained: Your economy saw a huge increase, so did your average income. You may lost a few percent of eco friendlieness. However, due to the fact that your economy saw such a surge, your public services of course now increased massively due to your massive increase of income.
More income means the same amount of tax in % produces more public services, and this includes eco friendlieness as well. The raw gain of income simply outdid any loss you had by cutting eco friendlieness in %.
by New Rikerland » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:57 pm
by Ajeckvause » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:27 pm
by Roman-Britannic Empire » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:03 pm
Ransium wrote:
I think we fundamentally disagree on civil rights. I can't read this option and see it as doing anything but taking away the rights of citizens albiet mildly. Keep in mind, NS tracks civil right relating to crime and punishment.
by Ransium » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:15 pm
Roman-Britannic Empire wrote:Ransium wrote:
I think we fundamentally disagree on civil rights. I can't read this option and see it as doing anything but taking away the rights of citizens albiet mildly. Keep in mind, NS tracks civil right relating to crime and punishment.
It is not sensible for that option to decrease civil rights. He only faces punishment if he was guilty in Maxtopia. In Roman-Britannic Empire, he's guilty of (whatever it was in the issue, drunken driven or something) so a deportation of a non citizen who commited a crime is hardly violating anyone's civil rights. Your logic of punishment=less civil rights makes no sense. Punishment of the innocent I could see, but in no way does the issue imply his innocence
by Ransium » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:25 pm
New Rikerland wrote:New Rikerland
November 19th 2017
Issue 330 (Supermarkets Gobbling Up All The Customers?) option 2
I got this one yesterday and was very surprised to see the results. The first option is to side with small businesses and restrict all big business. Second option which I chose was to get government out of regulating business, and the third option is to basically nationalize business. The strange results were that my economy went down, income of the rich went down and strangest of all is that my economic freedom went down. I can think of a few very rare cases where having a more free market might temporarily drop the economy or hurt wealthy, but how does economic freedom ever become lower from the government being less involved.
by Ransium » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:32 pm
Ajeckvause wrote:Ajeckvause
Novemebr 20th 2017
Issue no. 380 Farmers Seeding Discontent Option 1
I selected the first option (to subsidize the farming industry) and received positive percentage to my economy, business subsidization, industry:cheese exports, and sector: agriculture on the results screen. However once I looked at my trends for both cheese exports and sector agriculture I was surprised to see major decline (with my agriculture sector going from 691 to -6.1). Why did this occur?
by Drasnia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:20 pm
Ransium wrote:Roman-Britannic Empire wrote:
It is not sensible for that option to decrease civil rights. He only faces punishment if he was guilty in Maxtopia. In Roman-Britannic Empire, he's guilty of (whatever it was in the issue, drunken driven or something) so a deportation of a non citizen who commited a crime is hardly violating anyone's civil rights. Your logic of punishment=less civil rights makes no sense. Punishment of the innocent I could see, but in no way does the issue imply his innocence
So do you think if someone steals a loaf of bread and one nation gives them a day in jail and the other chops of their hand the two nations are equal in terms of civil rights? It's implied that Maxtopia is going to punish the singer harshly for something that probably is not really deserving in my reading of the issue.
It's also not really my logic but the built in logic of the game engine which we, as IEs, implement.
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