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The Chuck wrote:The name of the nation that had this effect: The Chuck
The day that this effect was encountered: March 22nd, 2019
The name of the issue, and if you know it, the number of the issue: Issue No. 103. "Plague Of The Hybrids!"

According to this website, I went with option 1. Somehow, although it clearly states "We can't make a living like this! You've got to give us the funds and manpower to shoot anything that comes within a mile of our property and put an end to these freaks of nature!", it didn't positively increase weaponization or arms manufacturing and actually caused a decrease in stats of arms manufacturing and law enforcement. Seemed a bit of a weird effect issue. Thanks in advance for looking into it!

The Chuck wrote:The name of the nation that had this effect: The Chuck
The day that this effect was encountered: March 22nd, 2019
The name of the issue, and if you know it, the number of the issue: Issue No. 103. "Plague Of The Hybrids!"

According to this website, I went with option 1. Somehow, although it clearly states "We can't make a living like this! You've got to give us the funds and manpower to shoot anything that comes within a mile of our property and put an end to these freaks of nature!", it didn't positively increase weaponization or arms manufacturing and actually caused a decrease in stats of arms manufacturing and law enforcement. Seemed a bit of a weird effect issue. Thanks in advance for looking into it!

ModCave1 wrote:Bone To Pick #728

Apparently "the state confiscates all corpses to use the organs and bones for "science" brought DOWN authoritarianism and extremism??
“What you people are failing to see is the enormous social resource,” mentions morbid mortician Sheng-ji Yang in a monotone. “Bones can be turned to human ivory, skin can be tanned into good leather, and trace elements reclaimed for state industry. Indeed, it should be seen as every citizen’s final duty to go into the recycling processing centre, and become one with the People’s economy!”

Authoritarianism
milliStalins V 2.0%

Ideological Radicality
Paul-Nader Subjective Decentrality Index V 0.67%

This game is really confusing sometimes...

Mod Cave wrote:#772: Do You Have Artistic License?

2. “Don’t listen to this laissez-faire claptrap,” sneers consumer advocate @@RANDOMNAME@@, discreetly shoveling vol-au-vents into @@HIS@@ pocket. “Occupational licensing protects consumers from incompetence and harm. We should be expanding the scope of licensing! Just look at the shoddy workmanship on these table decorations!”

When I answered this with Mod Cave, My authoritarianism, ideological radicality and income equality did not move.

When I answered the same way five minutes later with ModCave1, all three moved up as you would expect. The thing is, Mod Cave and ModCave1 have roughly equal Authoritarianism and Ideological Radicality, and ModCave1 even had higher income equality BEFORE answering the issue. So why isn't Mod Cave moving on these stats for almost a week of answering issues consistently? Ever since "forcing refugees to work in sewers" moved everything the wrong direction, my nation has been stuck at a standstill...

[Option 1] “We are the backbone of this country, and we demand a fair wage rise!” says union leader Barbie Norris. “I don’t think a 20% increase over two years is too much to ask. Unless the government forces employers to give us our due, we’ll shut this whole industry down! Let’s see how well Valentine Z’s economy manages without any Information Technology, huh?”

[Option 2] “We pay our employees very generous wages,” says employer representative Finn Urquhart. “Especially when you consider that without us, they’d be OUT ON THE STREET. Hear that, you scumbags? OUT ON THE STREET! Anyway, my point is, if you cave in, you make our entire industry uncompetitive. You can’t do that in the global marketplace. It’ll hurt the whole country. The best solution, economically speaking, would be to relax industrial laws and allow us to fire troublemakers on the spot.”

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:It's working as intended. Issues that involve competing economic interests / freedoms often have varying effects according to nation.

Note that one of the betas will make this a more consistent issue.

Ourisio wrote:I selected Option 1; if I can't appeal my ding to civil liberties and my apparent undermining of my public healthcare program, I have to ask: how is asking for AEDs to be part of building code and training people to be capable in first aid with a refresher every ten years a more Orwellian/damaging to civil liberties action than trying to control what people do with their bodies?

Ignoring that, cardiac events aren't always going to be directly correlated to diet and frankly, knowing your friends can help you if you break your arm will probably encourage people to be a bit less risk-averse at protests and the like. What is the logic being applied here??

Also is there a compendium of all issues and their effects? I'm trying to get Ourisio to the semi-Scandinavian 'citizen-soldier' state I envision and having to guess which option won't throw me out of whack is really putting a damper on my enthusiasm.

Ballpit wrote:I’ve been using a guide to help solve my issues on a couple of my nations to focus on stats, but sometimes the guide says my pizza delivery, for instance, should go up, when it in fact goes down.

I can think of two reasons why that may be:
1) the guide may be a bit outdated, which is fine, but it’s still helpful
2) my pizza delivery sector was already so high that even when the guide said it would go up, it still went down.

For reference, the nations in question are Ballpit and Ballpit Mothership on which I am fostering my stats.

Can anyone help me understand why they might be going down instead of up?

Cheers!
~Ballpit

“Everything is stacked in Clarissa’s Land of Happiness and Cheers’s favour,” complains Sven Rodriguez, head of the chamber of commerce in the second largest city of Alanis Star, while literally turning green with envy. “We are losing our brightest minds, our trade contracts, our cultural presence, and even our political voice to the capital. To keep all of Alanis Star competitive, I urge you to pass legislation spreading industry and jobs across the country. The government should follow suit as well and distribute its apparatus across all the cities of our country. We’re all Valentians, how about some recognition of that?”

Alanis Star wrote:Issue 497, Option 1.

“Everything is stacked in Clarissa’s Land of Happiness and Cheers’s favour,” complains Sven Rodriguez, head of the chamber of commerce in the second largest city of Alanis Star, while literally turning green with envy. “We are losing our brightest minds, our trade contracts, our cultural presence, and even our political voice to the capital. To keep all of Alanis Star competitive, I urge you to pass legislation spreading industry and jobs across the country. The government should follow suit as well and distribute its apparatus across all the cities of our country. We’re all Valentians, how about some recognition of that?”

Andddd this decreased the Income Equality.

Distribute... you mean like to the rest of the country, right? So why in Heaven's Name does this happen?

Australian rePublic wrote:How in the fudge does 85.2 increase authoritarianism?

The Talking Point

Both diets and economic output are growing leaner with recent restrictions to free trade.

Recent Headlines
(snip)
Recent Trends

Weather
Meters Of Sunlight 564.00 → 569.00 0.89%

Environmental Beauty
Pounds Of Wildlife Per Square Mile 3,429.60 → 3,446.42 0.49%

Health
Bananas Ingested Per Day 19.64 → 19.72 0.41%

Tourism
Tourists Per Hour 2,375.15 → 2,380.26 0.22%

Ideological Radicality
Paul-Nader Subjective Decentrality Index 15.26 → 15.29 0.20%

Rudeness
Insults Per Minute 5.78 → 5.79 0.17%

Authoritarianism
milliStalins 812.32 → 813.37 0.13%

Income Equality
Marx-Engels Emancipation Scale 73.90 → 73.99 0.12%

Average Income of Poor
Koras 40,389.21 → 40,415.40 0.06%

Average Income of Rich
Koras 54,653.46 → 54,622.07 0.06%

Averageness
Average Standardized Normality Scale 39.74 → 39.71 0.08%

Employment
Workforce Participation Rate 52.44 → 52.37 0.13%

Death Rate
Bus Surprisal Index 19.88 → 19.85 0.15%

Economy
Krugman-Greenspan Business Outlook Index 21.67 → 21.56 0.51%

Obesity
Obesity Rate 3.71 → 3.69 0.54%

Economic Freedom
Rand Index 19.67 → 19.56 0.56%

Industry: Automobile Manufacturing
Henry Ford Productivity Index -24.25 → -24.45 0.82%

Industry: Retail
Shrinkwrap Consignment Productivity Index -31.83 → -32.14 0.97%

Industry: Pizza Delivery
Pepperoni Propulsion Productivity Index -25.80 → -26.20 1.6%

Industry: Cheese Exports
Mozzarella Productivity Index -9.74 → -10.04 3.1%

Option 4 - “Uh, speaking of voters...” mutters Sandy Berman, the Minister of Domestic Affairs. “Remember them? You’re all so focused on getting your own agendas passed that you’ve forgotten why we’re here in the first place! The voters didn’t send us here to squabble like screaming children about who didn’t support someone’s National Moose Empowerment Act! They want us to get things done, and they’ll bring home anyone who’s not pulling their weight. Recall elections will make those rebels the local whipping boys. Forget secret ballots, we need to SPREAD the word who voted for what - the electorate will send us the right people if we just give them a chance.”

Merni wrote:I selected issue 685, option 2 today on this nation, and got this:

The Talking Point

Both diets and economic output are growing leaner with recent restrictions to free trade.

Recent Headlines
(snip)
Recent Trends

Weather
Meters Of Sunlight 564.00 → 569.00 0.89%

Environmental Beauty
Pounds Of Wildlife Per Square Mile 3,429.60 → 3,446.42 0.49%

Health
Bananas Ingested Per Day 19.64 → 19.72 0.41%

Tourism
Tourists Per Hour 2,375.15 → 2,380.26 0.22%

Ideological Radicality
Paul-Nader Subjective Decentrality Index 15.26 → 15.29 0.20%

Rudeness
Insults Per Minute 5.78 → 5.79 0.17%

Authoritarianism
milliStalins 812.32 → 813.37 0.13%

Income Equality
Marx-Engels Emancipation Scale 73.90 → 73.99 0.12%

Average Income of Poor
Koras 40,389.21 → 40,415.40 0.06%

Average Income of Rich
Koras 54,653.46 → 54,622.07 0.06%

Averageness
Average Standardized Normality Scale 39.74 → 39.71 0.08%

Employment
Workforce Participation Rate 52.44 → 52.37 0.13%

Death Rate
Bus Surprisal Index 19.88 → 19.85 0.15%

Economy
Krugman-Greenspan Business Outlook Index 21.67 → 21.56 0.51%

Obesity
Obesity Rate 3.71 → 3.69 0.54%

Economic Freedom
Rand Index 19.67 → 19.56 0.56%

Industry: Automobile Manufacturing
Henry Ford Productivity Index -24.25 → -24.45 0.82%

Industry: Retail
Shrinkwrap Consignment Productivity Index -31.83 → -32.14 0.97%

Industry: Pizza Delivery
Pepperoni Propulsion Productivity Index -25.80 → -26.20 1.6%

Industry: Cheese Exports
Mozzarella Productivity Index -9.74 → -10.04 3.1%

As you can see, the Talking Point said economic output is decreasing while the stats changes don't show that happening (Economy did decrease, but not Economic Output, which AFAIK is a different stat). And yes, I was on detail mode for the stats. Is this an error?

Valentine Z wrote:Hmm, hopefully I am missing something, but this one!

Issue 541 - Spare the Whip, Spoil the Law

Option 4 - “Uh, speaking of voters...” mutters Sandy Berman, the Minister of Domestic Affairs. “Remember them? You’re all so focused on getting your own agendas passed that you’ve forgotten why we’re here in the first place! The voters didn’t send us here to squabble like screaming children about who didn’t support someone’s National Moose Empowerment Act! They want us to get things done, and they’ll bring home anyone who’s not pulling their weight. Recall elections will make those rebels the local whipping boys. Forget secret ballots, we need to SPREAD the word who voted for what - the electorate will send us the right people if we just give them a chance.”

This increased Political Freedom for this nation, that's good. But... it also decreased Integrity and increased Corruption.

I'm not sure about the latter part.

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:

Valentine Z wrote:Hmm, hopefully I am missing something, but this one!

Issue 541 - Spare the Whip, Spoil the Law

Option 4 - “Uh, speaking of voters...” mutters Sandy Berman, the Minister of Domestic Affairs. “Remember them? You’re all so focused on getting your own agendas passed that you’ve forgotten why we’re here in the first place! The voters didn’t send us here to squabble like screaming children about who didn’t support someone’s National Moose Empowerment Act! They want us to get things done, and they’ll bring home anyone who’s not pulling their weight. Recall elections will make those rebels the local whipping boys. Forget secret ballots, we need to SPREAD the word who voted for what - the electorate will send us the right people if we just give them a chance.”

This increased Political Freedom for this nation, that's good. But... it also decreased Integrity and increased Corruption.

I'm not sure about the latter part.

That's intentional. Secret ballots exist for a reason, and getting rid of them will lead to more corruption generally. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-a-secret-b ... for-voting