NationStates

The Free Joy State wrote:

Kommunes Consiviz wrote:Gotcha.
I've actually had income equality higher in the past. Am I to take it then that if I keep answering questions in a way that increases it, that it will push my score up eventually, even if it didn't do anything this time? If this is the case, will my answer to this question be noted, or will it not have any effect on my future answers?

Economic freedoms and income equality are actually two separate stats.

Income equality can rise much higher.

Temosia wrote:Hey!

So I just answered issue No. 229 with option 2, to enact freedom of information. My political freedom just went down, which doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

So I understand how that could happen if I chose option 1, because that option just punishes individual politicians for corruption without making the process any more democratic, but option 2 increases governmental transparency, which logically should increase political freedom by making politicians more accountable to voters and the laws that they pass. After all, political freedom would increase if the dealings of a country's dictator were made publicly available, I'm sure you'd agree. Option 3 is obviously the pro-corruption choice, and one could make an argument as to whether allowing bribery increases political freedom or not, but among the three choices, and certainly between the two anti-corruption choices, option 2 is clearly making the country more democratic and thus more politically free. But I'm being pedantic because all of this is self-evident to you all. L.o.l.

The choice also had other weird affects, like making my country's ignorance go up. I mean, I'm trying to have an ignorant populace so that's not an issue for me in particular, but I think it only stands to reason that my country's ignorance should go down as a trade-off to making my citizens more aware of what their country's politicians are doing: knowledge being power and all that jazz.

I read that in the initial post that issues with bribery and political freedom had just been "fixed" in an update, so I'm confused as to why this happened.
This is definitely something you should take a look at.

Freedoms in NS work on a specific metric: freedom from government control.

People gain the right to vote for whoever they want, you gain rights.
People gain the right to marry whoever they want, you gain rights.
People gain the right to protest however they want, you gain rights.

(Be aware that some effects may not be felt on all nations due to their personal stats and some options may have a trade-off between two conflicting freedoms, which may impact the result).

Here -- by compelling ministers to detail all financial gifts and contributions and depriving them of their privacy -- you are reducing their freedoms to keep such details private.

Temosia wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:Economic freedoms and income equality are actually two separate stats.

Income equality can rise much higher.


Freedoms in NS work on a specific metric: freedom from government control.

People gain the right to vote for whoever they want, you gain rights.
People gain the right to marry whoever they want, you gain rights.
People gain the right to protest however they want, you gain rights.

(Be aware that some effects may not be felt on all nations due to their personal stats and some options may have a trade-off between two conflicting freedoms, which may impact the result).

Here -- by compelling ministers to detail all financial gifts and contributions and depriving them of their privacy -- you are reducing their freedoms to keep such details private.

I agree that the politicians' civil rights are being lessened, so personal freedom goes down; that makes sense to me. But in terms of political freedom it's definitely going up.
This is a case of a conflict of freedoms: personal freedom vs. political freedom. In option 2, the political freedom of the voting public is being supported over the freedom of the politicians to take bribes and act against their voters' will without them being aware of it. From the perspective of the politicians, I agree that they're losing their freedom of privacy, but from the perspective of the voters, they're gaining the freedom to know how their elected politicians are acting, which ensures that future votes and candidates adhere to the public's political will, increasing voters' political power. In summary, the public becomes more free from the whims of their government, which is to say the politicians.
Therefore, political freedom should be going up, not down.

Additionally, ignorance going up from enacting freedom of information makes no sense whatsoever. Knowledge =/= ignorance.

La Badlandoj wrote:So I got a subtle but slightly interesting result from 598.4 ("A Violet Trojan Horse", option that teaches all faiths/lack thereof). My nation is top 10% Religiousness, but has much higher Intelligence and lower Primitiveness than most highly religious nations. The fourth option is the closest thing to an irreligious one in the bunch. I didn't select it for that reason, but suspected that given my unusually high ranking on that there might be a slight decrease in the stat alongside any other changes.

Instead, there was a slight increase. Again, not personally complaining any way, I don't put a lot of attention to that specific stat. I found it interesting even a nation with top-decile Religiousness was apparently too atheistic to become moreso from that option, though, and wondered if nations with more typical stats on that axis would have more drastic and apparently unsuited Religiousness gains. Is it currently coded to be unusually sensitive to any pre-existing atheism? Did it just get confused by my unusual results on the Religiousness-correlated stats?

Tan Coza wrote:590.3, this nation
'Government-sanctioned factory-smashing' decreased primitiveness by 2.9%. Scientific advancement was unaffected.
Seems a bit odd.

The Free Joy State wrote:The small increase in religiousness here comes from the compulsion to teach about all faiths.

La Badlandoj wrote:

The Free Joy State wrote:The small increase in religiousness here comes from the compulsion to teach about all faiths.

That was what I thought it would do in general, but I assumed I already had that long-established.

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:I mean, my nation's citizens fire off 250 quips per hour, but average lifespan is only 21 years.

Trotterdam wrote:

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:I mean, my nation's citizens fire off 250 quips per hour, but average lifespan is only 21 years.

So, 46020555 quips in a lifetime?

Mesadora wrote:- The name of the nation that had this effect
Mesadora
- The day that this effect was encountered
Today, February 14th, 2019.
- The name of the issue, and if you know it, the number of the issue.
"Much Ado About Abortion", #136

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Is outlawing Abortion supposed to raise civil rights stats?

“Power to the people!” shouts manifesto co-author Yasmin Miller while starting up the building’s backup generator as the electricity cuts off. “We need to form peaceful, voluntary workers’ co-operatives across Clarissa the Happy and Cheerful Robot. Now more than ever we need true socialism, not another oppressive, bureaucratic hierarchy. Picture it: as the means of production are placed into the workers’ hands, they’ll be able to decide for themselves what to produce, how what they produce is used, and when to show up for work. It’ll be wonderful!”

"Picture it: as the means of production are placed into the workers' hands, they'll be able to decide for themselves what to produce, how what they produce is used, and when to show up for work. It'll be wonderful!"

Yesrway wrote:#589 2nd option
Space Program got removed
It's a temporary suspend-thing, but why would it cancel the space program until another issue is received??
Also, I'm sure building infrastructure is kind of Space Program?

space shuttles are lying silent on the runway till the Space Agency can work out how to fit a creche and a meditation room into their next spacecraft

Trotterdam wrote:This part:

"Picture it: as the means of production are placed into the workers' hands, they'll be able to decide for themselves what to produce, how what they produce is used, and when to show up for work. It'll be wonderful!"

increases Economic Freedom, which always correlates with Wealth Gaps in this game.

If workers are free to decide for themselves how much or what kind of work they want to do, some are going to work less than others. This is likely to have some kind of effect on their income, even in a socialist nation. It's harder for the government to enforce the "to each according his need" part if it already isn't enforcing the "from each according to his ability" part.

The Issue
A delegation from the Queen YUNo Philharmonia has shown up in your office, underlining their petition for the renovation of the nation’s concert halls with a serenade.

The Debate
“The once venerable concert halls of Queen YUNo are in a sorry state,” laments trombonist Vera Gruber, emptying her spit valve into your waste paper basket. “Some are dank, the stucco is crumbling in others, and it’s raining through the backstage roof of another! In the name of culture we must restore these halls to their former glory. It’s only a pittance to the national budget, but to our cultural reputation? Priceless.”

Accept

“These caterwauling miscreants don’t deserve concert halls,” insists Chastity Navratilova, a tone-deaf curmudgeon. “If they can’t support their hobby, then why should we, the suffering taxpayers, prop them up? Concert halls are businesses, and businesses that can’t stay afloat on their own disappear. Such is life. I say leave the whole lot to their inevitable demise.”

Accept

“Times are tight. I sympathize with you,” consoles Harambe Torres, the CEO of Restorations R Us, handing you a decorative ‘Hang In There’ basket of goodies. “However, you need only ask, and - quick as a whip - my company will fund the construction of concert halls all across this fair country. All I ask is that we put up some advertisements in the lobbies and integrate a tasteful nod to sponsors into the programmes.”

Accept

“The only reason to fund these musicians is if they are doing something worthwhile for their country,” says Brigadier General Mary Chavez. “I’ve long said that Queen YUNo’s Armed Forces would benefit greatly from a spic-and-span band in uniform. They would represent the splendor that embodies Queen YUNo and they’d do it with pride! Of course by extension, they would be a part of the active forces and required to serve in battle if necessary. Always good to up the recruitment numbers, right?”

Queen YUNo wrote:I got this issue:

The Issue
A delegation from the Queen YUNo Philharmonia has shown up in your office, underlining their petition for the renovation of the nation’s concert halls with a serenade.

The Debate
“The once venerable concert halls of Queen YUNo are in a sorry state,” laments trombonist Vera Gruber, emptying her spit valve into your waste paper basket. “Some are dank, the stucco is crumbling in others, and it’s raining through the backstage roof of another! In the name of culture we must restore these halls to their former glory. It’s only a pittance to the national budget, but to our cultural reputation? Priceless.”

Accept

“These caterwauling miscreants don’t deserve concert halls,” insists Chastity Navratilova, a tone-deaf curmudgeon. “If they can’t support their hobby, then why should we, the suffering taxpayers, prop them up? Concert halls are businesses, and businesses that can’t stay afloat on their own disappear. Such is life. I say leave the whole lot to their inevitable demise.”

Accept

“Times are tight. I sympathize with you,” consoles Harambe Torres, the CEO of Restorations R Us, handing you a decorative ‘Hang In There’ basket of goodies. “However, you need only ask, and - quick as a whip - my company will fund the construction of concert halls all across this fair country. All I ask is that we put up some advertisements in the lobbies and integrate a tasteful nod to sponsors into the programmes.”

Accept

“The only reason to fund these musicians is if they are doing something worthwhile for their country,” says Brigadier General Mary Chavez. “I’ve long said that Queen YUNo’s Armed Forces would benefit greatly from a spic-and-span band in uniform. They would represent the splendor that embodies Queen YUNo and they’d do it with pride! Of course by extension, they would be a part of the active forces and required to serve in battle if necessary. Always good to up the recruitment numbers, right?”

I chose the last option but my defense stats (my nation's no.1 priority) didn't raise

The Free Joy State wrote:

Queen YUNo wrote:I got this issue:

I chose the last option but my defense stats (my nation's no.1 priority) didn't raise (Image)

There is a rise programmed, and your backstage numbers reflect that. However, because you already have very well-funded defence forces, the visible stats didn't appear to move (they don't with very small changes).

Basically, once you get as high in the rankings as you are in any stat, it takes a lot longer to push them any further.

Ghost Land wrote:How did 83.3 cause that increase to my civil rights? High-speed monorail services don't seem to have anything to do with civil rights, not unless I'm missing something.

At least I can be grateful, though, that it decreased my economic freedom.

The Free Joy State wrote:

Ghost Land wrote:How did 83.3 cause that increase to my civil rights? High-speed monorail services don't seem to have anything to do with civil rights, not unless I'm missing something.

At least I can be grateful, though, that it decreased my economic freedom.

Allowing "equal access to all the workers, all the time" allowed your citizens more freedom to travel. It's a small change to your civil rights, but looks quite significant on a nation with rights as restricted as yours' is.