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List of Nations & Tribes (Sept. 14, 2017 — Nov. 17, 2023)

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Outer Sparta
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Founded: Dec 26, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:08 pm

Ozeanreisende wrote:Hello which nations would seem best for a no no germany (WWII germany) and the netherlands as a monarchy im writing an issue i tried making my own nations which would have been bavariland (germany but it was unified by bavaria) and hullanlandia (literally the netherlands) but someone who i wont name for reasons is bugging me for trying to make my own countries to use

P.S if you think i should stick with custom nations could someone reccomend a way to incorporate som history into this description without making it too long
Description: Recently the re-militarized nation of Bavariland who has a dictator in power, has been going on a continental rampage invading several bordering nations and more, one of these nations is hullanland who is asking @@name@@ to let their royal family who fear execution, flee to @@name@@ for safety during the conflict.

bavariland is basically doing WWII

I'm not bugging you to use existing NPC nations, I'm saying you would be better off using them unless you can come up with their own lore and characteristics. Stop putting words in my mouth. In case you couldn't properly grasp my point, here it is again:
I would advise you use current NPC nations since it would be hard to come up with new NPC nations that have its own lore and significance in the NS universe. What's Bavariland based off of? What's so special about them or Hullanland? Unless you can develop some sort of lore or base them off of real-life countries in some way, I wouldn't go down that route of creating new NPC nations for the sake of it.


Also, just ask in your actual draft. You don't have to go here.
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Verdant Haven
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Verdant Haven » Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:23 pm

Ozeanreisende wrote:Hello which nations would seem best for a no no germany (WWII germany) and the netherlands as a monarchy im writing an issue i tried making my own nations which would have been bavariland (germany but it was unified by bavaria) and hullanlandia (literally the netherlands)


Looking at your draft, I don't think you need to name the aggressor. It isn't particularly relevant who is attacking some foreign nation - only that it is happening. WW2 is a massive topic, and would need much more than the background of a single issue to suggest something like that is happening. A foreign royal family seeking refuge in a time of crisis is plenty important enough to stand on its own.

For Holland, Gallopavia is the functioning stand-in, being the global tulip-trading entity. Its system of government hasn't previously been established, beyond not being an autocracy, so it could certainly have some kind of symbolic or constitutional royal family in need of help. If you want something that is definitely a monarchy, and small enough to need a hand, Moltevino might also be worth considering.

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Ozeanreisende
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Founded: Jul 24, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Ozeanreisende » Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:51 pm

Verdant Haven wrote:
Ozeanreisende wrote:Hello which nations would seem best for a no no germany (WWII germany) and the netherlands as a monarchy im writing an issue i tried making my own nations which would have been bavariland (germany but it was unified by bavaria) and hullanlandia (literally the netherlands)


Looking at your draft, I don't think you need to name the aggressor. It isn't particularly relevant who is attacking some foreign nation - only that it is happening. WW2 is a massive topic, and would need much more than the background of a single issue to suggest something like that is happening. A foreign royal family seeking refuge in a time of crisis is plenty important enough to stand on its own.

For Holland, Gallopavia is the functioning stand-in, being the global tulip-trading entity. Its system of government hasn't previously been established, beyond not being an autocracy, so it could certainly have some kind of symbolic or constitutional royal family in need of help. If you want something that is definitely a monarchy, and small enough to need a hand, Moltevino might also be worth considering.

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Trotterdam
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:01 pm

Verdant Haven wrote:For Holland, Gallopavia is the functioning stand-in, being the global tulip-trading entity.
Gallopavia's name suggests it's more based on Turkey, the nation tulips were originally imported from, rather than Holland, which got obsessed with importing them. (In the issue that introduced it, it's actually the player nation that plays Holland's role by importing flowers, although obviously that isn't suitable for every issue. The flowers in the issue also are not tulips, even though it was inspired by the real-life tulip trade.)

Meleagris gallopavo is the scientific name of turkeys (the bird), coined by Linnaeus from the Latin words for "chicken" (gallus) and "peacock" (pavo). Which I think is a kind of silly thing to apply to a Turkey-like nation, given that (A) turkeys-the-bird were originally named after Turkey-the-nation rather than the other way around, and (B) they were misnamed, since turkeys are not actually from Turkey, but rather from North America. But no-one had any better suggestions, I suppose.

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Bears Armed
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:43 pm

Trotterdam wrote:[(B) they were misnamed, since turkeys are not actually from Turkey, but rather from North America. But no-one had any better suggestions, I suppose.

I've wondered whether the name was previouslyly applied to Guinea Fowl, to which the Turkey not only ts related but also (in the forms that existed back then, although admitedly not quite as much in its modern farmed forms) does bear some resemblance: Those birds actually originated in sub-Saharan Africa, but might first have become known to Europeans because domesticated ones were traded down the Nile valley into Egypt, and tf that becoming known happened while Egypt was under Turkish rule then...
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Trotterdam
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:14 pm

Bears Armed wrote:I've wondered whether the name was previouslyly applied to Guinea Fowl, to which the Turkey not only ts related but also (in the forms that existed back then, although admitedly not quite as much in its modern farmed forms) does bear some resemblance: Those birds actually originated in sub-Saharan Africa, but might first have become known to Europeans because domesticated ones were traded down the Nile valley into Egypt, and tf that becoming known happened while Egypt was under Turkish rule then...
This is actually one of the two origins of the name that Wikipedia suggests as plausible!

However, even if Wikipedia doesn't mention it, I also suspect that the name is likely to have been motivated, or at east given more staying power, due to the following logic:
1. This bird is from some exotic foreign place.
2. Turkey is an exotic foreign place.
3. Therefore, this bird is from Turkey, or might as well be.
This kind of "all foreigners are the same" thinking is racist, but you can find it all over the place.

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Huaren Gongsi state
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Founded: Aug 23, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Huaren Gongsi state » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:44 am

In dilemna 1041, it is mentioned that "Althaniq" is going to be the next host of the calvinball tournament; this shares parallels to the Qatar world cup.
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Kalaascovy
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Founded: Feb 24, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Kalaascovy » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:19 pm

Do @@NATION@@ (us) have any confirmed geography to use as reference (or a forum post I can look at) I understand that there's probably @@ANIMAL@@ County/City/Whatever, but I'm trying to write an issue and having references to use would be great for my issue idea (especially being I'm trying to find something with something similar sounding to "Penn" or "Pennsylvania")
The Syndicalist Union of Kalaascovy
The Antarctic Cold Truly is the Heart of Freedom

A nation which birthed itself in a civil war out of the decaying Empire of Kromerov, it resides in a fictional Polynesian island chain near Antarctica in the continent of Balugata during the 2040s. It is known for its radical politics, high Human Development Index, and devotion to local autonomy. Allies with Rohendia and keeps friendly relations with North Rohendia
Ignored policies: Capitalism, Compulsory Organ Harvesting

A bored college age lad who is trying to get into Cyber Security. Known commonly as Hussar with friends.

I speak Light Polish

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And I am so gay

Please check out my puppet Kromerov for what we used to be.

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Vishl99
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Founded: Feb 13, 2023
Ex-Nation

Thanks

Postby Vishl99 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:10 am

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Quartia and Karafuto
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Posts: 154
Founded: Jul 26, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:55 pm

Bigtopia is probably the only nation that has absolutely no relation to any real-life nation. It simply represents whatever neighboring nation is the most relevant to your own nation's history and politics and interacts the most. If you're the USA, it's Mexico. If you're the UK, it's Ireland. If you're Germany, it's France. If you're Egypt, it's Sudan. If you're China, it's Vietnam (or maybe Korea?).
My nation - which is pretty much just a unified Korea with some extra territory - represents my real views. NS stats only broadly correct, trust the factbooks over them. Feel free to call me Q&K, Quartia, or any other nickname.

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Jutsa
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Founded: Dec 06, 2015
Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:50 pm

Updated my lists of Nations and Religions. Hope you enjoy; I certainly did reading all the new issues. :)
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The Realist Polities
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Founded: Sep 07, 2007
New York Times Democracy

I mapped them

Postby The Realist Polities » Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:43 pm

I mapped all the fictional nations, corresponding them with the IRL countries they represent

https://www.deviantart.com/trezeno/art/ ... 1014155365

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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:48 am

Eh. Some of these are highly dubious.

I preferred the older NPC nations that were more vague rather than being one-for-one analogues to real-life nations, anyway.

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Jutsa
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Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:59 pm

Updated this list to #1623. Didn't even have to update the other list of religions/cults save for the counter of issues covered :P
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