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[Draft]At The Summits Of Insanity

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:54 am
by The Grene Knyght
The Grene Knyght wrote:
[Title]At The Summits Of Insanity

[Debate]A recent scientific expedition to a polar region went mysteriously awry, leaving several scientists from @@CAPITAL@@ university dead. With the source of the incident still shrouded in mystery, the expedition’s lone survivor is petitioning you to halt all such voyages.

[Option]“Though my warning may be in vain, I am forced into speech because men of science refuse to heed my warning,” rants pale faced survivor Dr. M.B. Craftlove, who holds degrees in both mathematics and folklore. “What we discovered locked away under the ice is unspeakable. The evidence was there all along, in the drawings of the mad artist, Richard Pluckman, in the archaic rites of obscure Tasmanian tribes, in the dread tome Lexinomicon. But we, in our hubris, failed to recognize it. And now my colleagues are dead. Mountains under the ice. Gargantuan cities of geometry most bizarre. Strange writings not of this earth. And something worse. @@LEADER@@, there is something dreaming under the ice, and another expedition to the region could wake it. I beg you, respect the unknowable. We must be prepared.”
[Result]@@Name@@ prepares for the world's end whenever someone slips on a banana peel

[Option]“I have a theory,” states your Minister for Rational Thought, @@RANDOMNAME@@ “Melting ice leaked methane, which was then inhaled by the scientists, and, with their brains short on oxygen, they all went mad and killed each other, leaving this brain-addled man the only survivor. What this fiasco shows is that we need more environmental regulation in order to halt climate change, if we’re to save what polar climate we have left. In the meantime, all polar voyages should be halted. They only contribute to the problem anyway.”
[Result]All school field trips are cancelled in the wake of a ban on scientific expeditions

[Option]“You can’t do that!” cries Professor @@RANDOMNAME@@, a scientist wearing a labcoat over @@HIS@@ parka. “We still have so much to learn, and there’s no replacement for first hand experimentation. We must establish a permanent polar research base, and boost funding across the board for scientific expeditions. Besides, if there’s any truth to Dr Craftlove’s claims, they must be investigated, not shut away."
[Result]Scientists on expeditions often experience disturbing dreams

[Option]“Ia! Ia! Maxthlhu Barrtaghn.” chants mysterious cultist Keziah Whatley, gifting you a bas-relief of a strangely @@ANIMAL@@-like humanoid “We must embrace our new masters, and usher in a new era. Beneath the ice and beyond this plane lies their ancient city, and from there we must call them from their dreams, to rule over this universe forevermore.”
[Result]Bemused foreign diplomats enjoying watching the people revere long dead Maxtopian Pharaohs


[Title]At The Summits Of Insanity

[Debate]A recent arctic scientific expedition went mysteriously awry, leaving several scientists from @@City@@ university dead. With the source of the incident still shrouded in mystery, the expedition’s lone survivor is petitioning you to halt all voyages to the arctic.

[Option]“Though my warning may be in vain, I am forced into speech because men of science refuse to heed my warning.” Rants pale faced survivor Dr M.B. Craftlove, who holds degrees in both mathematics and folklore. “What we discovered locked away under the ice is unspeakable. The evidence was there all along, in the drawings of the mad artist, Richard Pluckman, in the archaic rites of obscure Tasmanian tribes, in the dread tome Lexinomicon. But we, in our hubris, failed to recognise it. And now my colleagues are dead. Mountains under the ice. Gargantuan cities of geometry most bizarre. Strange writings not of this earth. And something worse. @@Leader@@, there is something dreaming under the ice, and another expedition to the arctic could wake it. I beg you, respect the unknowable. We must be prepared.”
[Result]@@Name@@ is preparing for the world’s end

[Option]“I have a theory” states your minister for rational thought, @@randomname@@ “Melting ice leaked methane, which was then inhaled by the scientists, and, with their brains short on oxygen, they all went mad and killed each other, leaving this brain-addled man the only survivor. What this fiasco shows is that we need more environmental regulation in order to halt global warming, if we’re to save what arctic climate we have left. In the meantime, all arctic voyages should be halted. They only contribute to the problem anyway”
[Result]Voyages to the antarctic are banned as environmental activists kick up a stink

[Option]“You can’t do that!” cries Professor @@randomname@@, a scientist, wearing a labcoat over @@his@@ parka, “We still have so much to learn, and there’s no replacement for first hand experimentation. We must establish a permanent arctic research base, and boost funding across the board for scientific expeditions. Besides, if there’s any truth to Dr Craftlove’s claims, they must be investigated, not shut away.
[Result]Universities lack qualified lecturers as @@name@@’s scientists embark on scientific voyages around the world

[Option]“Ia! Ia! Maxthlhu Barrtaghn” chants mysterious cultist Keziah Whatley, gifting you a bas-relief of a strangely @@animal@@-like humanoid “We must embrace our new masters, and usher in a new era. Beneath the ice and beyond this plane lies their ancient city, and from there we must call them from their dreams, to rule over this universe forevermore.”
[Result]Violetests are outraged as a new and equally bizarre religion rises to prominence

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:58 pm
by Australian rePublic
Um, but my nation has territory in the Antarctic, not the Arctic. Change "Arctic" to "Polar"

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:53 pm
by The Grene Knyght
Australian Republic wrote:Um, but my nation has territory in the Antarctic, not the Arctic. Change "Arctic" to "Polar"

Might do that, but I'm not sure it matters if your nation has territory there or not anyway

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:05 pm
by Australian rePublic
The Grene Knyght wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:Um, but my nation has territory in the Antarctic, not the Arctic. Change "Arctic" to "Polar"

Might do that, but I'm not sure it matters if your nation has territory there or not anyway

The problem is that polls are cold, remote, inhospitable and (possibly) melting, right? Whilst this issue does require you to conduct research in Polar areas, and you need to make that assumption, it doesn't matter WHICH poll the research is conducted in, and therefore, you can remove that assumption. Also, option 2 should state "and the midnight sun was messing with his biological clock..." too add to the reasons why @@HE@@ would be confused

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:16 pm
by The Grene Knyght
Australian Republic wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Might do that, but I'm not sure it matters if your nation has territory there or not anyway

The problem is that polls are cold, remote, inhospitable and (possibly) melting, right? Whilst this issue does require you to conduct research in Polar areas, and you need to make that assumption, it doesn't matter WHICH poll the research is conducted in, and therefore, you can remove that assumption.
As I said, I might take you up on your suggestion, just not for the first reason you gave.
Australian Republic wrote:Also, option 2 should state "and the midnight sun was messing with his biological clock..." too add to the reasons why @@HE@@ would be confused
I think that's unnecessary and just makes an already overlong explanation even more arduous

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:33 am
by Candlewhisper Archive
Australian Republic wrote:Um, but my nation has territory in the Antarctic, not the Arctic. Change "Arctic" to "Polar"


Why does it matter? Most nations don't have territories in either, but they can still have expeditions to the arctic.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:56 am
by Jutsa
Hello, The Grene Knyght! :D

Here's a bunch of stuff that I think could be changed - although, aside from certain grammatical
and possibly a certain coding thing(see the end), I think it'd be fine if none of my suggestions are taken into account. :P

So, without further ado, my review!

The Title/Debate/Validity: oh, wait a second...

The title and debate are all flawless, imo. :)

Option 1:

warning.” Rants pale faced survivor Dr M.B. Craftlove,

1) comma after warning, not a period. :3
2) period after Dr.
3) "Craftlove" - I approve! (Admittedly his stories never quite captivated me, though.)
recognise it.

recognize*

Uh, besides that, the option's just a little bit long - although, for Craftlove's character, I think that works pretty well, personally. :P

Option 2:

“I have a theory” states your minister for rational thought, @@randomname@@

comma after theory,
period after @@randomname@@.
They only contribute to the problem anyway”

period after anyway.
[quoteVoyages to the antarctic are banned as environmental activists kick up a stink[/quote]
I don't know.... I feel like this could use a slight bit of punching up. I'm just not entirely sure how. :P

Option 3:

a scientist, wearing a labcoat over @@his@@ parka,

1) "a scientist," seems just a little dull. I think that just removing the comma after scientist could make it run a little smoother,
although I'm sure it's unnecessary if you'd prefer it this way. ;)
2) period after parka.
Besides, if there’s any truth to Dr Craftlove’s claims, they must be investigated, not shut away.

1) period after Dr
2) " after away.
Universities lack qualified lecturers as @@name@@’s scientists embark on scientific voyages around the world

Again, I feel like this one could use a worse side effect...
maybe, instead, it'd be something like "scientists' front yards are often murder-inducing chunks of ice hosting an extra-dimensional entity" or something.

Option 4:

Maxthlhu Barrtaghn”

Firstly, horrifying, and secondly, a comma after Barrtaghn.
@@animal@@-like humanoid

period after humanoid

Also, I'm not certain, but I think that all @@(something)@@s have to be totally capital-letters.
(i.e. @@his@@ should be @@HIS@@, etc.)
Other than that, I think this is a very good issue. Good luck, Grene Knyght! :D

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:30 pm
by Intelligentia Equitas et Libertatum
Jutsa wrote:
Voyages to the antarctic are banned as environmental activists kick up a stink

I don't know.... I feel like this could use a slight bit of punching up. I'm just not entirely sure how. :P


Maybe change "Voyages to the arctic" to the more general "Scientific Expeditions"?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:50 am
by Jutsa
Yeah, I think that'd work - but, then again, I'm not the most creative person. :P

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:05 am
by Bears Armed
This looks like a fun issue. I've printed out a copy to read while I'm offline this evening, and will try to post a comment tomorrow.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:37 am
by Fauxia
The Grene Knyght wrote:[Title]At The Summits Of Insanity

[Debate]A recent arctic scientific expedition went mysteriously awry, leaving several scientists from @@City@@ university dead. With the source of the incident still shrouded in mystery, the expedition’s lone survivor is petitioning you to halt all voyages to the arctic.
It should be @@CAPITAL@@.

[Option]“Though my warning may be in vain, I am forced into speech because men of science refuse to heed my warning.” Rants pale faced survivor Dr M.B. Craftlove, who holds degrees in both mathematics and folklore.
Should be Dr., don't forget the period
“What we discovered locked away under the ice is unspeakable. The evidence was there all along, in the drawings of the mad artist, Richard Pluckman, in the archaic rites of obscure Tasmanian tribes, in the dread tome Lexinomicon. But we, in our hubris, failed to recognise it. And now my colleagues are dead. Mountains under the ice. Gargantuan cities of geometry most bizarre. Strange writings not of this earth. And something worse. @@Leader@@, there is something dreaming under the ice, and another expedition to the arctic could wake it. I beg you, respect the unknowable. We must be prepared.”
Not a bad first option, but it might be a little far-fetched. We'll see. First of all, it's @@LEADER@@, in ALL CAPS.
[Result]@@Name@@ is preparing for the world’s end
A little bland, and don't forget the ALL CAPS. But I would change the fallout, maybe "Cancer deaths are regarded as signs of the apocalypse."

[Option]“I have a theory”
Add a comma, it should read "I have a theory,"
states your minister for rational thought, @@randomname@@
Once again, macros are ALL CAPS, and Minister for Rational Thought should be capitalized
“Melting ice leaked methane, which was then inhaled by the scientists, and, with their brains short on oxygen, they all went mad and killed each other, leaving this brain-addled man the only survivor. What this fiasco shows is that we need more environmental regulation in order to halt global warming, if we’re to save what arctic climate we have left. In the meantime, all arctic voyages should be halted. They only contribute to the problem anyway”
There should be a period here. Also, I would suggest changing "global warming" to "climate change." And change "article climate" to "polar ice caps." It's not a bad option, but I kinda think this should be an option about someone saying the first man is suffering from trauma and can't be trusted right now. Your choice though.
[Result]Voyages to the antarctic are banned as environmental activists kick up a stink
Too bland. Try to come up with something funnier. I can usually come up with these, but I'm having a writer's block right now.

[Option]“You can’t do that!” cries Professor @@randomname@@, a scientist, wearing a labcoat over @@his@@ parka, “We still have so much to learn, and there’s no replacement for first hand experimentation. We must establish a permanent arctic research base, and boost funding across the board for scientific expeditions. Besides, if there’s any truth to Dr Craftlove’s claims, they must be investigated, not shut away.
I'll stop saying that macros need to be capitalized now. Also, you forgot the close quotation at the end. Good option though.
[Result]Universities lack qualified lecturers as @@name@@’s scientists embark on scientific voyages around the world
Also bland. Perhaps "@@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@'s ships are captured on science expeditions by Maxtopia on suspicion of being spies," but that may well be too long.

[Option]“Ia! Ia! Maxthlhu Barrtaghn”
Add a comma
chants mysterious cultist Keziah Whatley, gifting you a bas-relief of a strangely @@animal@@-like humanoid “We must embrace our new masters, and usher in a new era. Beneath the ice and beyond this plane lies their ancient city, and from there we must call them from their dreams, to rule over this universe forevermore.”
Good option. Not much to say.
[Result]Violetests are outraged as a new and equally bizarre religion rises to prominence
It should be Violetists, with an "I" but I don't love this fallout. Perhaps "Science expeditions are mostly spent bowing before arctic @@ANIMAL@@s."

Overall, a good premise and a very good issue :clap: Keep working, I'm sure this will get through if you do.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:29 am
by The Grene Knyght
Since I'm pretty much done the other issue I was working on, I finally put up a new draft of this one.
Mostly all thats changed are the effect lines. I'm happy with most of them now, except maybe the last one.
If anyone has any suggestions...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:20 am
by Jutsa
I like the last one, actually. The third one seems just a little bit simple,
but I do believe it's a better fallout.
The other two are flat-out somewhere between silver and gold, so well done. ;)

Uh, also, I recommend removing the capitalization of the first word in each fallout. :P

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:30 am
by The Grene Knyght
Jutsa wrote:I like the last one, actually. The third one seems just a little bit simple,
but I do believe it's a better fallout.
The other two are flat-out somewhere between silver and gold, so well done. ;)

Uh, also, I recommend removing the capitalization of the first word in each fallout. :P

Hmm, I'll look at the 3rd one again. I think you're right, but I think its close to being good enough.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:55 am
by Bears Armed
I'm not quite sure about the 4th option's effect line, otherwise I think that this looks verrry good.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:04 am
by Caracasus
Perhaps just have the 4th effect line as:

"Iya! Thagin! Thagin h'thi Maxthlhu Barrtaghn!"

Might be a bit too silly though....

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:29 am
by The Grene Knyght
Ok so I'm just gonna change the last effect line to
"Lexinomicon is the nation's bestselling book."
If people think that one sounds good, I'm gonna go ahead and submit this.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:11 am
by Trotterdam
Considering the etymology, "Necrolexicon" would make more sense.