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Postby Harttland » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:50 pm

I did my research this time, and I don't believe there are any issues like this. Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

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[The Issue]
Maxtopian escargot is the new trendy food item in @@NAME@@.Although the fatty food is being eaten all across the country with great joy, it's also causing hundreds of health issues to the people of @@NAME@@, and citizens are storming your office for a solution.

[Validity] Invalid for nations with mandatory vegetarianism

[The Debate]
[option]"These disgusting snails need to be banned from the nation permanently," states @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Health & Safety as @@HE@@ analyzes the amount of calories in one Maxtopian escargot. "Maxtopian escargot is the number one cause of obesity and heart disease in the nation, and the only way to stop your citizens from suffering is to embargo trade with Maxtopia's food industries and ban all other major causes of obesity. Of course, you'll sacrifice a bit of money flow which isn't the best for the economy, but people's lives are much more important than money!"

[option]"Wuh gives you the right to take mah food away?" @@RANDOMNAME@@ as @@HE@@ finishes his family-size serving of Maxtopian escargot. "You've taken enough of mah rights away, and now you want to take mah food? You should let your people eat whatever they want to eat, it's their bodies, not your's! Plus, we're like, making the country money and stuff, aren't we?"

[option] "How about instead, we provide more funding to education to further allow schools to teach students how they should be eating?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, a pediatrician who deals with obese children on a daily basis. "This way, kids will know the effects of bad eating habits and they'll be bound to at least keep unhealthy foods at a moderate level. The proframs will be expensive, yes, but in the end, it'll help minimize obesity and restore @@NAME@@'s image!"

[option] "Pshh, you do know there's a way you can keep these nasty food items while keeping @@NAME@@ fitt at the same time?" @@RANDOMNAME@@, a competitive eater claims as he swallos your sandwhich in 2 large bites. "Just begin enforcing mandatory excercise for 30-60 minutes a day. I eat all sorts of crap on a daily basis but manage to burn it off with some excercise. If people refuse, just slap 'em with a hefty fine for making their country look bad!"

[option] "These fools don't know how bad all these food items are for them," states @@RANDOMNAME@@, an extremely competitive middle school gym teacher as he drops down and gives you 50. "How about instead of letting people choose to eat their own food, the government hands out approved ration packs, like MREs? It'd be super cheap, and people would get nothing but vitamins and nutrients for their bodies. You'll be sacrificing the people's right to eat, sure, but they shouldn't even deserve that right if all they do is munch on McRonald's and other terrible foods!


Draft #2
[The Issue]
Bigtopian escargot is the new trendy food item in @@NAME@@. Although the fatty food is being eaten all across the country with great joy, it's also causing hundreds of health issues to the people of @@NAME@@, and citizens are storming your office for a solution.

[Validity] Invalid for nations with mandatory vegetarianism and nations withh extremely high civil rights.

[The Debate]
[option]"These disgusting snails need to be banned from the nation permanently," states @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Health & Safety as @@HE@@ analyzes the amount of calories in one Bigtopian escargot. "Bigtopian escargot is the #1 cause of obesity and heart disease in the nation, and the only way to stop your citizens from suffering is to embargo trade with Bigtopia's food industries and ban all other junk foods being imported from Bigtopia. Of course, you'll sacrifice a bit of cash flow which isn't the best for the economy, and our relationship with Bigtopia will weaken, but people's lives are much more important than that!"
[fallout] People are often imprisoned for being in possession of seasoned snail shells.

[option]"Wuh gives you the right to take muh food away?" @@RANDOMNAME@@ as @@HE@@ finishes his family-size serving of Bigtopian escargot. "You've taken enough of muh rights away, and now you want to take mah food? You should let your people eat whatever they want to eat, it's their bodies, not your's! Plus, both @@DEMONYM@@ and Bigtopians are benefitin' with all this cash flow goin' on, or somethin'."
[fallout] Industries all across the nation benefit from the heavy spending of morbidly obese @@DEMONYM@@.

[option] "How about instead, we provide more funding to education to further allow schools to teach students how they should be eating?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, a pediatrician who deals with obese children on a daily basis. "Then, kids will know the effects of bad eating habits and they'll be bound to keep unhealthy foods at a moderate level. The programs will be quite expensive, yes, but in the end, it'll minimize health issues and restore @@NAME@@'s image while at the same time keeping a stable relationship with Bigtopia!"
[fallout] Students are more often reminded to say no to junk food than drugs.

[option] "These fools don't know how bad all these Bigtopian foods are for them," states @@RANDOMNAME@@, an extremely competitive middle school gym teacher as he drops down and gives you 50. "How about instead of people eating their own food, the government hands out approved ration packs, like MREs? It'd be cheap, and people would get nothing but vitamins and nutrients in every bite. You'll be sacrificing people's right, sure, but they shouldn't deserve that right if all they munch on is McRonald's and other greasy foods!
[fallout] McRonald's has become the #1 stop for a quick MRE.


Current DraftThe Issue
With environmental control and spending at an all-time low thanks to the large mass of pastoral farms, the economy is benefiting while the people are suffering. A small group of scientists have discovered a form of farming that has the potential to save the dreadful environment.

[validity] Valid for nations that don't have compulsory vegetarianism, a terrible environment, and a Good+ economy.

The Debate
[option] "I call it, unpastoral farming!" announces @@RANDOMNAME@@, the overly-enthusiastic scientist in charge of the anti-pastoral-farms group. "Unpastoral farming is the idea of farming smaller protein rich organisms like snails, butterflies, and best of all, earthworms! With this form of farming, minimal land is required and the land that is under use of farming may never go bad thanks to the magic acts of earthworms! You'd be crazy to turn this idea down, considering all these organisms are fantastic sources of protein! Sure, a good bit of nobody's will refuse to eat these animals because they look gross or whatever, but they don't matter!
[fallout] Fried earthworm with a side of baked butterfly wings is the nicest delicacy @@NAME@@ has to offer.

[option] "I'm really beginnin' to question whether or not this idiot really is a scientist!" grumbles @@RANDOMNAME@@, a farmer who owns well-over 600 acres of farmland. "No sane human would eat those disgustin' bugs, and with nobody bitin' no money's bein' made. Don't you see how gosh-darn terrible this would be for @@NAME@@'s economy? Although I can't deny that the environment is quite a problem, this ain't the way to deal with it. How about ya put a cap on the amount of land a farmer can own instead, like 1,000 acres tops?"
[fallout] @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ can't travel a 10 kilometers without seeing grazing cattle.

[option] "Screw the environment!" @@RANDOMNAME@@ exclaims as @@HE@@ kicks over your favorite flower pot. "Meat production means money, and placing stupid regulations or making us eat bugs is the dumbest thing you could do! Bump up the tax rate a wee bit bit and begin subsidizing the meat industry! We'll become a farming empire!
[fallout] Cattle outnumber @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ 10:1.

[option] "These fools don't know how bad all these meat products are for them," states @@RANDOMNAME@@, an extremely competitive middle school gym teacher as @@HE@@ drops down and gives you 50. "How about instead of people eating their own food, the government hands out approved ration packs? It'd be cheap, and people would get nothing but vitamins and nutrients in every bite. You'll be sacrificing people's right, sure, but they shouldn't deserve that right if all they munch on is rotting carcasses!"
[fallout] McRonald's has become the #1 stop for swiftly-made ration packs.

Please recommend a name change, I don't like the current one. :)
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Postby Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:58 pm

Why not modify an option or add one for taxing unhealthy food and other things to pay for the increased burden on the health system? And maybe one for only allowing adults eat unhealthy foods?
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:15 am

"Hrarroom!" ( = "Greetings!")

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You need to keep this distinct enough from # 072, 288, 477, and any other potential overlaps that I've missed.
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Postby Harttland » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:38 am

Bears Armed wrote:"Hrarroom!" ( = "Greetings!")

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You need to keep this distinct enough from # 072, 288, 477, and any other potential overlaps that I've missed.


Thanks for pointing that out, I fixed it up!

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Postby Australian rePublic » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:04 pm

I'm glad that you have still continued to write issues. Now let's take a look

1. Effect for option 1- If you've ever encountered Australia or New Zealand quarantine, then that's standard practice over here, and nothing to do with nutrional value.
2. Who said that the snails are imported? I mean, why can't Bigtopian Esccargot recipes be made with @@DENONYMADJECTIVE@@ snails in @@NAME@@?
3. As a rule of thumb, the more options you have, the shorter they need to be. Maybe cut down on some
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Australian Republic wrote:I'm glad that you have still continued to write issues. Now let's take a look

1. Effect for option 1- If you've ever encountered Australia or New Zealand quarantine, then that's standard practice over here, and nothing to do with nutrional value.
2. Who said that the snails are imported? I mean, why can't Bigtopian Esccargot recipes be made with @@DENONYMADJECTIVE@@ snails in @@NAME@@?
3. As a rule of thumb, the more options you have, the shorter they need to be. Maybe cut down on some


1) Changed, thanks.
2) The whole embargo part is a big part of the issue. The Bigtopian Escargot is made from Bigtopian snails, which are found only in Bigtopia making it impossible to find in other nations unless imported.
3) Went ahead and shortened them as best I could.

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Postby Harttland » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:59 pm

Could an issue editor please provide me with some feedback? Thanks.

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Maxtopian escargot is the new trendy food item in @@NAME@@.Although the fatty food is being eaten all across the country with great joy, it's also causing hundreds of health issues to the people of @@NAME@@, and citizens are storming your office for a solution.


The premise is odd, given that snails are actually very healthy as meats go. They've got low fat and salt content, they're rich in iron and Omega-3, and their nature makes them very easy to store and safely prepare for human consumption, compared to something like, say, chicken or pork or lobster. Also, they're more environmentally friendly than mammalian meat sources (as most small organisms are), in that they can provide more calories per acre than large mammals.

So basically, the faulty premise makes the issue as a whole go in the wrong direction.
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Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Maxtopian escargot is the new trendy food item in @@NAME@@.Although the fatty food is being eaten all across the country with great joy, it's also causing hundreds of health issues to the people of @@NAME@@, and citizens are storming your office for a solution.


The premise is odd, given that snails are actually very healthy as meats go. They've got low fat and salt content, they're rich in iron and Omega-3, and their nature makes them very easy to store and safely prepare for human consumption, compared to something like, say, chicken or pork or lobster. Also, they're more environmentally friendly than mammalian meat sources (as most small organisms are), in that they can provide more calories per acre than large mammals.

So basically, the faulty premise makes the issue as a whole go in the wrong direction.


Do you suggest that I change it from escargot to a different, less healthy meat?

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That could work. Tricky one though, as we don't need another "unhealthy foods making people obese" issue. Maybe odiferous unpasteurised cheese (akin to Stinking Bishop).
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Candlewhisper Archive wrote:That could work. Tricky one though, as we don't need another "unhealthy foods making people obese" issue. Maybe odiferous unpasteurised cheese (akin to Stinking Bishop).


Issue 189 seems to deal with banning cheese already. :(

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Good point.

Maybe stick with snails then, and also make it about bugs, worms and the rest, and instead spin it round the other way: new sources of alternative protein to deal with the ecological impact of pastoral farming.
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Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Maxtopian escargot is the new trendy food item in @@NAME@@.Although the fatty food is being eaten all across the country with great joy, it's also causing hundreds of health issues to the people of @@NAME@@, and citizens are storming your office for a solution.


The premise is odd, given that snails are actually very healthy as meats go. They've got low fat and salt content, they're rich in iron and Omega-3, and their nature makes them very easy to store and safely prepare for human consumption, compared to something like, say, chicken or pork or lobster. Also, they're more environmentally friendly than mammalian meat sources (as most small organisms are), in that they can provide more calories per acre than large mammals.

But these are specifically Maxtopian snails... maybeso not as 'healthy' as the usual sort of Escargot...
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Postby Harttland » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:19 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Good point.

Maybe stick with snails then, and also make it about bugs, worms and the rest, and instead spin it round the other way: new sources of alternative protein to deal with the ecological impact of pastoral farming.


Thanks a bunch for the help, I went ahead and made an almost complete overhaul of the idea and I think it looks pretty good so far.

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Postby Harttland » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:04 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
The premise is odd, given that snails are actually very healthy as meats go. They've got low fat and salt content, they're rich in iron and Omega-3, and their nature makes them very easy to store and safely prepare for human consumption, compared to something like, say, chicken or pork or lobster. Also, they're more environmentally friendly than mammalian meat sources (as most small organisms are), in that they can provide more calories per acre than large mammals.

But these are specifically Maxtopian snails... maybeso not as 'healthy' as the usual sort of Escargot...
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I like this, actually. I may use this in the future again.

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Bump

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It's bad form to bump that quickly, generally. Wait till you're on the second page, at least, and bump no more than once.
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Postby New Beverley » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:32 pm

This is honestly disgusting to think about, but I love it haha

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Postby Harttland » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:22 am

New Beverley wrote:This is honestly disgusting to think about, but I love it haha


Haha, thanks. Could I have an editor give me some feedback if they have the time, please? :)

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[validity] Valid for nations that don't have compulsory vegetarianism, a terrible environment, and a Good+ economy.

Might wanna add "has a fair bit of scientific advancement" as idk if super primitive nations would be able to pull this off. :P

farming smaller protein rich organisms

I think a comma after smaller would be nice, but I don't know if it's necessary.
Sure, a good bit of nobody's

Nobody's? Do you mean nobodies? :P
Fried earthworm with a side of baked butterfly wings is the nicest delicacy @@NAME@@ has to offer.

This is incredible. :clap:


with nobody bitin' no money's bein' made.

Possibly a comma after bitin', I'm not certain.
@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ can't go a mile without smelling livestock excretions.

This is a little bit gross. :P
Idk, if the game's standards allow it, keep it - otherwise, it might need a slight change.


like MREs?

Not sure what an MRE is. If it's common knowledge, keep it. If not, you might as well just remove the "like MREs" part or try lengthening it.
rotting carcasses!

Also a little gross. Same advice as the livestock excretions.
Also, a " after carcasses!


My overall thoughts on this issue? I think it's really good! However, I also kind of suspect that there are other options out there.
For instance, compulsory vegetarianism(although there are plenty of issues that do that), or just not worrying about the environment at all.
I feel like it could have a few, less extraordinary options, but I must say, it's a rather good issue, otherwise. :)
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Jutsa wrote:
[validity] Valid for nations that don't have compulsory vegetarianism, a terrible environment, and a Good+ economy.

Might wanna add "has a fair bit of scientific advancement" as idk if super primitive nations would be able to pull this off. :P

farming smaller protein rich organisms

I think a comma after smaller would be nice, but I don't know if it's necessary.
Sure, a good bit of nobody's

Nobody's? Do you mean nobodies? :P
Fried earthworm with a side of baked butterfly wings is the nicest delicacy @@NAME@@ has to offer.

This is incredible. :clap:


with nobody bitin' no money's bein' made.

Possibly a comma after bitin', I'm not certain.
@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ can't go a mile without smelling livestock excretions.

This is a little bit gross. :P
Idk, if the game's standards allow it, keep it - otherwise, it might need a slight change.


like MREs?

Not sure what an MRE is. If it's common knowledge, keep it. If not, you might as well just remove the "like MREs" part or try lengthening it.
rotting carcasses!

Also a little gross. Same advice as the livestock excretions.
Also, a " after carcasses!


My overall thoughts on this issue? I think it's really good! However, I also kind of suspect that there are other options out there.
For instance, compulsory vegetarianism(although there are plenty of issues that do that), or just not worrying about the environment at all.
I feel like it could have a few, less extraordinary options, but I must say, it's a rather good issue, otherwise. :)

Your feedback is greatly appreciated, I'll patch this up as soon as I can.

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Postby Harttland » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:17 am

Jutsa wrote:
[validity] Valid for nations that don't have compulsory vegetarianism, a terrible environment, and a Good+ economy.

Might wanna add "has a fair bit of scientific advancement" as idk if super primitive nations would be able to pull this off. :P

farming smaller protein rich organisms

I think a comma after smaller would be nice, but I don't know if it's necessary.
Sure, a good bit of nobody's

Nobody's? Do you mean nobodies? :P
Fried earthworm with a side of baked butterfly wings is the nicest delicacy @@NAME@@ has to offer.

This is incredible. :clap:


with nobody bitin' no money's bein' made.

Possibly a comma after bitin', I'm not certain.
@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ can't go a mile without smelling livestock excretions.

This is a little bit gross. :P
Idk, if the game's standards allow it, keep it - otherwise, it might need a slight change.


like MREs?

Not sure what an MRE is. If it's common knowledge, keep it. If not, you might as well just remove the "like MREs" part or try lengthening it.
rotting carcasses!

Also a little gross. Same advice as the livestock excretions.
Also, a " after carcasses!


My overall thoughts on this issue? I think it's really good! However, I also kind of suspect that there are other options out there.
For instance, compulsory vegetarianism(although there are plenty of issues that do that), or just not worrying about the environment at all.
I feel like it could have a few, less extraordinary options, but I must say, it's a rather good issue, otherwise. :)

I fixed it all up. Bump!

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Postby Jutsa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Maybe the title could be something like, "Eat Worms, @@LEADER@@!", or...
ok, that's actually kind of cringeworthy, but it could work? :lol2:

If not that one, how's about something like "Something Small for Breakfast".
That'd work pretty well, since everything about this issue seems to point towards going smaller.

Actually... that does remind me. There's no option to simply ignore the environment and boost meat production. :P
I think that would be a good thing to add, actually. ;)
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Postby Harttland » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:01 pm

Jutsa wrote:Maybe the title could be something like, "Eat Worms, @@LEADER@@!", or...
ok, that's actually kind of cringeworthy, but it could work? :lol2:

If not that one, how's about something like "Something Small for Breakfast".
That'd work pretty well, since everything about this issue seems to point towards going smaller.

Actually... that does remind me. There's no option to simply ignore the environment and boost meat production. :P
I think that would be a good thing to add, actually. ;)

Added, thanks!

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Postby Jutsa » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:24 pm

Yeah, I think this issue is pretty much ready for submission, personally. Feel free to whenever, although leaving it up for just a few more days wouldn't hurt. :)
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Other Nifty Links: >Best-Ranked Useful Dispatches | >NSindex | >IA's WA Proposal Office | >Major Discord Links | >Trivia | >Cards Against NS | >Polls

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