by Mississippabama » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:38 am
by Mississippabama » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:51 am
by Aclion » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:09 pm
by USS Monitor » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:26 pm
by Mississippabama » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:52 pm
1. Do you mean writing it on the original post instead of in a separate reply?Aclion wrote:This is really well written and it's clear you did your research into the topic. However I have some advice for you to consider.
1.Each issue option has an effect(called fallout in the submission page),This will come up in a nation feed as "Following new legislation in @@NAME@@, [effect goes here]" and on the nations world factbook. (IE my world factbook reads; "Several citizens have complained about scientists abducting their pets for experimentation, the government has cut taxes in the face of widespread tax evasion, chickens roam the streets freely, and foreign 'investors' have been taking a great interest in the new secret shuttle.") It's important to write this so they'll be grammatically correct and understandable, even for those that haven't seen the issues.
2.Remember that issues are seen by many different nations and most won't have a providence called Maryland(and for some Maryland will be the name of their region, or their nation). It's best to avoid direct references to real world people,places or organizations whenever possible. Generic terms references like gerrymandering are fine, even if they are named after real people but i would still avoid referencing how it got it's name.
3. Issues are written from an in-universe perceptive, it's usually best to avoid referencing aspects of game-play directly (the leader of a country that's in the top 0.5% for most political freedom) instead phrase it in a way that makes sense in-universe (The leader of a country well know for it's free and fair elections).
by Ransium » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:02 pm
by Mississippabama » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:32 pm
1. I'll probably use that, one of the district in Maryland, which the Democrats gerrymandered, in Pennsylvania, which the Republicans gerrymandered, or in North Carolina, which the Republicans were caught gerrymandering.USS Monitor wrote:I think gerrymandering is a viable topic, but there are some problems with this draft in it's current form. The most obvious that immediately leap out are:
1. Maryland is too recognizable as a specific US state. Come up with something more generic or a name that is funny in context. The original "gerrymander" was a district in Massachusetts, so maybe you could make a reference to that. The name "Massachusetts" is too distinctive to use, but something like "Hillshire," which has the same meaning, but is less immediately recognizable, would work.
2. You have a lot of options, including one that you're borrowing from an existing issue. Cut the list down, and in particular #5 needs to be removed or replaced with something written from scratch.
Since we already have an issue about districting, you'll want to take this in a direction that separates it from 524. For example, you could deal with the question of what to do after gerrymandering flipped the results of an election. Do you redo the election? That question wasn't covered in 524.
by Mississippabama » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:35 pm
I put in a new option that takes it in a whole new direction about justice system changes. Also, I think that the option involving the preschooler, if still on the same theme, was pretty radical in terms of ideological radicality.
by Trotterdam » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:13 pm
An option half this length would be at the long end of what's normally allowed.Mississippabama wrote:2. How about this?
(inserted between options one and two)
"While I agree that Arty San must be punished, I don't think that the existing punishments are harsh enough. In general, if someone abuses our system of democracy is this or any other way, they need their right to use it taken any so they can't abuse it again. That's right: Arty San must not be allowed to vote in any @DENONYM@ election, federal or local, for the rest of his life. Also, I think that punishments in @NAME@ are too lax in general. For example, the Tertiary Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs refusal to assist in the construction of a diplomatic treaty that would have prevented the @RANDOMDENONYMADJECTIVE@ War directly led to the death of thousands of innocent @RANDOM DENONYM ADJECTIVE@ civilians. We've tried and convicted several generals for their war crimes, but we need to execute the Tertiary Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs for a thousand counts of manslaughter, the civilian deaths in the war that is his fault. You should also free my friend from his sentence after he was convicted of trying to kill the Tertiary Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs before Tertiary Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs caused the war to happen because the only reason that my friend tried to kill him was because he knew that that would happen, and he was trying to prevent the civilians' deaths."
by USS Monitor » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:03 pm
Mississippabama wrote:1. Do you mean writing it on the original post instead of in a separate reply?Aclion wrote:This is really well written and it's clear you did your research into the topic. However I have some advice for you to consider.
1.Each issue option has an effect(called fallout in the submission page),This will come up in a nation feed as "Following new legislation in @@NAME@@, [effect goes here]" and on the nations world factbook. (IE my world factbook reads; "Several citizens have complained about scientists abducting their pets for experimentation, the government has cut taxes in the face of widespread tax evasion, chickens roam the streets freely, and foreign 'investors' have been taking a great interest in the new secret shuttle.") It's important to write this so they'll be grammatically correct and understandable, even for those that haven't seen the issues.
2.Remember that issues are seen by many different nations and most won't have a providence called Maryland(and for some Maryland will be the name of their region, or their nation). It's best to avoid direct references to real world people,places or organizations whenever possible. Generic terms references like gerrymandering are fine, even if they are named after real people but i would still avoid referencing how it got it's name.
3. Issues are written from an in-universe perceptive, it's usually best to avoid referencing aspects of game-play directly (the leader of a country that's in the top 0.5% for most political freedom) instead phrase it in a way that makes sense in-universe (The leader of a country well know for it's free and fair elections).
2. You have to admit though; Maryland does look gerrymandered. It's so narrow around Elkton and Hancock, but then it gets wider again. West Virginia also looks gerrymandered, with its border jutting out randomly in a spike to the north and what looks like a dead brontosaur's head and neck stretching east. Anyway, the reason that I included Maryland was to give Arty San a sense of justification when he complains of his province's southern border being "a bunch of zig-zags," so people who look it up would know what he's talking about. Also, referencing the word origins of gerrymander is essential for the current effect of option number one.
3. I'll think about it, but I'll definitely change it if I don't get rid of that option.
by USS Monitor » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:22 pm
by Mississippabama » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:08 pm
How about this?USS Monitor wrote:Mississippabama wrote:I put in a new option that takes it in a whole new direction about justice system changes. Also, I think that the option involving the preschooler, if still on the same theme, was pretty radical in terms of ideological radicality.
The issue needs to bring in a new angle before you get to the options.
by Australian rePublic » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:00 pm
by Mississippabama » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:42 pm
Australian Republic wrote:Well researched and well written. Well done Very good issue. Now let's take a look
1. Option 1, how did gerrymandering get that name? You state that it's important, but don't state how. I hadn't even heard of it until I saw this issue
2. Option 2, Who said anything about majority-minority representation? Since when is that a requirement
3. Yea but there's a reason why state and federal lines in the United States aren't straight, rivers. Rivers don't flow in straight lines. Also, to the North, you have the Great Lakes,, which further complicate drawing state lines. And there are mountains. Also, the fact that you SPECIFICALLY mention non-continguous provinces means that they're important, yet despite them, it's still possible to draw electral boundaries around non-contingous provinces. Also, non-contingous could mean islands, and they don't have straight lines. Also, this "Please adopt me" goes off an unnecassery tangent. The issue is long enough as it is. I say get rid of that part. Also, if she's old enough to stand in front of parliment and suggest declaring war, isn't she old enough to get a job and move out?
4. This issue is very long, are you able to shrink some of the options?
5. Option 5, ha?
6. Option 6, are they states or are they provinces? I would stick with province. It more universally means subdivisions
7. Contrary to what USS says, I would think that Maryland is probably one of the least known US states outside of America. I know Maryland, but that's because I have a keen interest in geography, and made a point to try to be able to know the name of every USA state. However, that doesn't mean that he/she is not right. This issue IS too American, depsite the reference to Maryland (which I will get to in my next point). BuT there's nothing great about Maryland. It's not even creative. Could I suggest @@ANIMAL@@ Province? Which may not be creative or fun, but is atleast unique to @@NAME@@, or another one I created was Taswaii, the island province (which is a combination between Australia's island state of Tasmania and the USA's island state of Hawaii)
8. This issue is too American in nature. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic issue, but a few minor changes could go a long way
9. Majorities and minorities equally represented in every seat. How do you expect that to work? It might work in SOME US states, because of the history of slavery and the amount of black people distributed across the entire state, and still remaining the minority (for some reason), but it doesn't work like that outside the USA. Take Sydney, Australia for example:
Most Arabs/Muslims live in the Bankstown area, many people in the Eastern suburbs are Jews, most people in the Shire and Northern Beachesare usually Anglo, Redfern is mostly Aboriginal, Greeks are in Brighton/Bexley/that area etc. Every ethnic group has itsown area, therefore drawing up elctorates where there are ethnic groups would be like refusing to acknowledge Chinatown because there aren't enough Lebanese resturants. And this is just within ONE city
by Australian rePublic » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:51 pm
by Mississippabama » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:13 am
The thing is that if I use something that isn't well-know in real life for Jurassic Park: Witness the Dead Brontosaur's Head and Neck that are Currently Sticking out of the East Side of West Virginia.Australian Republic wrote:Once agaon. This is too Americanized! I would start by de-Americanising it
by Australian rePublic » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:58 pm
Mississippabama wrote:Well, I live on the Gulf Coast, so referencing places like West Virginia, which really does have a dead brontosaurs's head and neck sticking out of its east, and Texas, which gets caught gerrymandering each and every decade, is just using my knowledge base. Maybe some NS players from foreign countries could suggest provinces in their home countries that I could replace Maryland and West Virginia with?Australian Republic wrote:Once agaon. This is too Americanized! I would start by de-Americanising it
by Mississippabama » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:04 pm
I'm going to reply to you in the same fashion:Australian Republic wrote:Mississippabama wrote:The thing is that if I use something that isn't well-know in real life for Jurassic Park: Witness the Dead Brontosaur's Head and Neck that are Currently Sticking out of the East Side of West Virginia.
You're NOT supposed to name real places. This is an issue about @@NAME@@, NOT the United States of America. Replace real places with imaginary ones. Replace real provinces with imaginary ones. Why would @@NAME@@ make laws based on the voting system of a foreign country? It makes no sense. Honestly, changing @@NAME@@'s voting system because of the USA would be like the USA changing your voting system because Canada decided to ditch the British monarchy. That would have absolutely no impact on the USA, just like how the USA's system would have absolutely no impact on @@NAME@@.
Also, option 1, "Do you know how Gerrymandering got it's name?" yea, some obscure, far away nation arbitrarily decided to name it that, because they have some obscure voting law which was manipulated, under a completely different voting system. You should really know that and it makes a giant impact on our nation. I mean it's not unreasonable to expect @@LEADER@@ to know every word of every nation's law, I mean it doesn't matter how many laws there are.
I'll show you what the probme is here. Pretend that you're the US president. Now, random people on the street are telling you this stuff:
@@NAME@@ has a problem with littering. These litterers are called "tossers" by the New South Wales police. Do you know how the word "tossers" got its name?
Adelaide was the world's hottest capital city on Christmas 2017. Quick, better check all the air conditioners, before December comes
South Australia, Victoria and New South Wales are fighting over who should get the limited amount of water in the Murray River. Therefore, we desperately need to start negotiations with New York state, the federal government, Canada and Ontario about who should get the finate amount of water from Niagara Falls
Greece and Cyprus are fighting for no recognitition for Northern Cyprus. Take notes on what they're doing before the Canadian invasion of Alaska
Athen's Olympic stadiums are being completely unused and are more or less abandoned. We should never host the Olympics again!
by Australian rePublic » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:20 pm
Mississippabama wrote:I'm going to reply to you in the same fashion:Australian Republic wrote:You're NOT supposed to name real places. This is an issue about @@NAME@@, NOT the United States of America. Replace real places with imaginary ones. Replace real provinces with imaginary ones. Why would @@NAME@@ make laws based on the voting system of a foreign country? It makes no sense. Honestly, changing @@NAME@@'s voting system because of the USA would be like the USA changing your voting system because Canada decided to ditch the British monarchy. That would have absolutely no impact on the USA, just like how the USA's system would have absolutely no impact on @@NAME@@.
Also, option 1, "Do you know how Gerrymandering got it's name?" yea, some obscure, far away nation arbitrarily decided to name it that, because they have some obscure voting law which was manipulated, under a completely different voting system. You should really know that and it makes a giant impact on our nation. I mean it's not unreasonable to expect @@LEADER@@ to know every word of every nation's law, I mean it doesn't matter how many laws there are.
I'll show you what the probme is here. Pretend that you're the US president. Now, random people on the street are telling you this stuff:
@@NAME@@ has a problem with littering. These litterers are called "tossers" by the New South Wales police. Do you know how the word "tossers" got its name?
Adelaide was the world's hottest capital city on Christmas 2017. Quick, better check all the air conditioners, before December comes
South Australia, Victoria and New South Wales are fighting over who should get the limited amount of water in the Murray River. Therefore, we desperately need to start negotiations with New York state, the federal government, Canada and Ontario about who should get the finate amount of water from Niagara Falls
Greece and Cyprus are fighting for no recognitition for Northern Cyprus. Take notes on what they're doing before the Canadian invasion of Alaska
Athen's Olympic stadiums are being completely unused and are more or less abandoned. We should never host the Olympics again!
We need to rename St. Petersburg, Florida! There was a metro attack in St. Petersburg, Russia, and we don't want any Floridans to die! (Point: Names are not exclusive to one particular place. Have you heard of Venice, California?)
by USS Monitor » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:43 pm
[*]There are I think currently twelve options, so I think that it's inherently wrong. I submitted a 17-option issue once; I haven't received a telegram on it or any of the other options that I submitted.
I was going to mention West Virginia and the dead brontosaurs's head and neck that are currently sticking out of its east side, but I think that Maryland looks even more gerrymandered in terms of state borders. However, West Virginia is second.[*]Name a province that looks even more gerrymandered than Maryland, and I'll happily replace Maryland with its name.
by Mississippabama » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:49 pm
USS Monitor wrote:Mississippabama wrote:[list=1][*]the Voting Rights Act in 1965
What?
The word "gerrymander" was invented in 1812, and it's named after Massachusetts Governor Elbridge Gerry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#Etymology
USS Monitor wrote:[*]There are I think currently twelve options, so I think that it's inherently long. I submitted a 17-option issue once; I haven't received a telegram on it or any of the other options that I submitted.
It's not a good idea to have that many options. It just means some would have to get cut during the editing process, and it increases the risk of the issue being rejected outright because the editors didn't want to deal with the surplus options.
USS Monitor wrote:3 to 5 is a good number for most topics. Some issues do have more than 5, but 17 is definitely too many.
Okay, so here's what I have now:USS Monitor wrote:I was going to mention West Virginia and the dead brontosaurs's head and neck that are currently sticking out of its east side, but I think that Maryland looks even more gerrymandered in terms of state borders. However, West Virginia is second.[*]Name a province that looks even more gerrymandered than Maryland, and I'll happily replace Maryland with its name.
And once again, Maryland ISN'T gerrymandered, and you're not supposed to be using such specific real-world references.
I don't care what shape it is on the map. It's not gerrymandered. The Mason-Dixon Line is straight (except for a couple of right-angle corners), the Chesapeake shoreline is a natural geographic feature, DC is square, and the Virginia border follows the Potomac River. Specifically, the state line is the southern bank of the Potomac, so the river itself and islands in it belong to Maryland. None of these things is a result of gerrymandering. Gerrymandering specifically refers to borders that are drawn based on demographics and controlling the outcome of elections, not borders based on geographic features.
Quite aside from that, you're not supposed to use such distinctive RL names. Australian Republic is trying to help with his comments about the issue being too American, and I think you should listen to him more than you are doing.
It's OK to draw inspiration from American history and politics, but you shouldn't make the references so obvious. The other districting issue is derived from British history, and you need to make yours different, so some well-handled American references might work to your benefit. It just needs to be a lot more subtle than dropping in the names of US states. I actually think references to Governor Gerry are OK if you change his first name and the name of the state. For example, "Hillsbury Governor @@RANDOMFIRSTNAME@@ Gerry" would be acceptable to put in an issue.
by Tinhampton » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:18 pm
Mississippabama wrote:Following a court ruling that district mapmaker Arty San grew district lines in one of @@NAME@@'s provinces to specifically benefit his party in the upcoming provincial election, several citizens have been complaining about how to deal with gerrymandering in the future.
1. "It is an outrage," decries political freedom activist @@RANDOMNAME@@, who is wearing a T-shirt that says Voting Rights for All!, "to see that the opposition party has been unfairly suppressed in the provincial congress. Just look at the district lines! District number five looks like a giraffe! District number one looks like an octopus! Given how gerrymandering came to be named gerrymandering in the first place, we might as well rename it sanopussing!"
Effect: the @@CAPITAL@@ @@DEMONYMNOUN@@ Dictionary lists over twenty synonyms for gerrymanderingYou don't need "Following new legislation in @NAME@" at the start of every effect line. And also, it's two @'s either side, not one.
2. "While I agree that Arty San must be punished," states one of your less loyal secretaries, "I don't think that the existing punishments are harsh enough. In general, if someone abuses our system of democracy is this or any other way, they need their right to use it taken any so they can't abuse it again. That's right: Arty San must not be allowed to vote in any @@DENONYM@@ election, federal or local, for the rest of his life. Also, I think that punishments in @@NAME@@ are too lax in general. Take, for example, the Tertiary Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs' refusal to assist in the drafting of a diplomatic treaty that would have prevented the *insert NPC nation here* War that directly led to the death of thousands of innocent NPC @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ civilians!" Whilst your security guards drag him out, he carries on talking about how the minister should be executed, but his wannabe assassin should be freed. Regardless, the message to ban Mr San from voting, and tighten punishments in general, should have been clear.
Effect: the trolley dilemma is officially considered precedent in @@DENONYMADJECTIVE@@ courts
3. "Shouldn't we let the voters decide?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, the leader of a country that is renowned for its highly extensive political freedom that is visiting your country on a diplomatic region. "Have voters submit what they want their district's boundaries to be, and then two neighborhoods will be in the same district if and only if the majority of residents in each neighborhood voted to include the other neighborhood in their district. Because it was voted on by the people in general, it has to be fair."
Effect: many disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have no representatives due to the opposition of the surrounding area
4. "You know, we could use this case as a convenient excuse to get rid of those pesky provincial governments," mentions your brother @@RANDOMFIRSTNAMEMALE@@. "'States' rights! Provinces' rights!' All they do is take away power from you. By abolishing all governments except the federal government, you'd have more power. Of course, you'd still have to split it with the legislative and judicial branches, but you wouldn't have to contest with the governors for power anymore."
Effect: mayors and governors are now out of jobs
5. "Here's an idea," begins your Minister of Creative Doodles, while scribbling over a laminated map of @@NAME@@'s provincial borders with a black Sharpie, "how interesting would, say, a district shaped like...say...the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ lesser-antennaed slug, found at over half of @@NAME@@'s zoos, be? Let me just finish this section..." your minister begins scribbling furiously, somehow coating herself in a fine layer of black Sharpie ink, and her glasses fall off before she hands the map to you. "Done!" she exclaims. "Now visitors can go horseback-riding, be devoured by a dragon, witness a bull stampede, see kangaroos kick-box, and more, all from up close. Tourism will soar; we'll have attract more visitors than Jurassic Park: Witness the Dead Brontosaur's Head and Neck that are Currently Sticking out of the East Side of West Virginia!" Consider steering clear of RW references here.
Effect: "gerrymandering tourism" is bringing in valuable money for both the state and audacious district mapmakers
6. "I personally don't care what happens to the gerrymanders," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, "as long as the maps are redrawn by unbiased courts to be fair. Otherwise, gerrymanderers would always have their way, wouldn't they?"
Effect: bribing judges is the new gerrymandering.Just what exactly is the correlation here? This option should also be made longer.
7. "That's not enough!" claims John Whitmire. What is your justification for a fixed name here? "When they gerrymander," pointing to his collages of the opposite party, "they always get caught, but by then, it's already over halfway to the next census! Even though the maps that they draw are replaced with fair maps, they've already rigged several elections! Lengthy court proceedings or not, district maps need to be approved by courts before they go into effect in the first place!"
Effect: the current district maps in the province of Texas are based on censuses taken in 1980.Again, consider avoiding RW references. And also, what about those nations that roleplay before 1980, or had their last census taken then? I would personally consider something like
most provincial district maps are based off 40-year-old censuses due to ongoing court disputes
8. "Why's he pointing the finger at us?" asks Jane Nelson. Again, why do you believe that this option needs a fixed-name speaker? "The real problem with gerrymandering is that everyone makes too big of a deal about it. So we've gerrymandered Texas year after year. Their party is doing the same with Maryland. I wonder how much money they paid Arty San.... Anyway, not does gerrymandering by different parties all cancel out in the end, but populations change. Gerrymandering, contrary to what some people say, is not a threat to our democracy."
Effect: @@NAME@@'s government passively tolerates gerrymanderingAgain, consider changing your province names to things that aren't RW state names.
by Mississippabama » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:14 pm
That's mostly good. The reason that I felt that it was okay to mention West Virginia is because I did nothing to imply that it was part of the nation, and instead, did just the opposite. Also, for numbers five and six, I put what I did in the effects to explain why choosing number five typically makes political freedom increase more than choosing number six.Tinhampton wrote:My recommended changes. You don't have to take them on, but please do consider them. Additions and swaps in green, recommendations in blue.Mississippabama wrote:Following a court ruling that district mapmaker Arty San grew district lines in one of @@NAME@@'s provinces to specifically benefit his party in the upcoming provincial election, several citizens have been complaining about how to deal with gerrymandering in the future.
1. "It is an outrage," decries political freedom activist @@RANDOMNAME@@, who is wearing a T-shirt that says Voting Rights for All!, "to see that the opposition party has been unfairly suppressed in the provincial congress. Just look at the district lines! District number five looks like a giraffe! District number one looks like an octopus! Given how gerrymandering came to be named gerrymandering in the first place, we might as well rename it sanopussing!"
Effect: the @@CAPITAL@@ @@DEMONYMNOUN@@ Dictionary lists over twenty synonyms for gerrymanderingYou don't need "Following new legislation in @NAME@" at the start of every effect line. And also, it's two @'s either side, not one.
2. "While I agree that Arty San must be punished," states one of your less loyal secretaries, "I don't think that the existing punishments are harsh enough. In general, if someone abuses our system of democracy is this or any other way, they need their right to use it taken any so they can't abuse it again. That's right: Arty San must not be allowed to vote in any @@DENONYM@@ election, federal or local, for the rest of his life. Also, I think that punishments in @@NAME@@ are too lax in general. Take, for example, the Tertiary Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs' refusal to assist in the drafting of a diplomatic treaty that would have prevented the *insert NPC nation here* War that directly led to the death of thousands of innocent NPC @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ civilians!" Whilst your security guards drag him out, he carries on talking about how the minister should be executed, but his wannabe assassin should be freed. Regardless, the message to ban Mr San from voting, and tighten punishments in general, should have been clear.
Effect: the trolley dilemma is officially considered precedent in @@DENONYMADJECTIVE@@ courts
3. "Shouldn't we let the voters decide?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, the leader of a country that is renowned for its highly extensive political freedom that is visiting your country on a diplomatic region. "Have voters submit what they want their district's boundaries to be, and then two neighborhoods will be in the same district if and only if the majority of residents in each neighborhood voted to include the other neighborhood in their district. Because it was voted on by the people in general, it has to be fair."
Effect: many disadvantaged neighbourhoods often have no representatives due to the opposition of the surrounding area
4. "You know, we could use this case as a convenient excuse to get rid of those pesky provincial governments," mentions your brother @@RANDOMFIRSTNAMEMALE@@. "'States' rights! Provinces' rights!' All they do is take away power from you. By abolishing all governments except the federal government, you'd have more power. Of course, you'd still have to split it with the legislative and judicial branches, but you wouldn't have to contest with the governors for power anymore."
Effect: mayors and governors are now out of jobs
5. "Here's an idea," begins your Minister of Creative Doodles, while scribbling over a laminated map of @@NAME@@'s provincial borders with a black Sharpie, "how interesting would, say, a district shaped like...say...the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ lesser-antennaed slug, found at over half of @@NAME@@'s zoos, be? Let me just finish this section..." your minister begins scribbling furiously, somehow coating herself in a fine layer of black Sharpie ink, and her glasses fall off before she hands the map to you. "Done!" she exclaims. "Now visitors can go horseback-riding, be devoured by a dragon, witness a bull stampede, see kangaroos kick-box, and more, all from up close. Tourism will soar; we'll have attract more visitors than Jurassic Park: Witness the Dead Brontosaur's Head and Neck that are Currently Sticking out of the East Side of West Virginia!" Consider steering clear of RW references here.
Effect: "gerrymandering tourism" is bringing in valuable money for both the state and audacious district mapmakers
6. "I personally don't care what happens to the gerrymanders," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, "as long as the maps are redrawn by unbiased courts to be fair. Otherwise, gerrymanderers would always have their way, wouldn't they?"
Effect: bribing judges is the new gerrymandering.Just what exactly is the correlation here? This option should also be made longer.
7. "That's not enough!" claims John Whitmire. What is your justification for a fixed name here? "When they gerrymander," pointing to his collages of the opposite party, "they always get caught, but by then, it's already over halfway to the next census! Even though the maps that they draw are replaced with fair maps, they've already rigged several elections! Lengthy court proceedings or not, district maps need to be approved by courts before they go into effect in the first place!"
Effect: the current district maps in the province of Texas are based on censuses taken in 1980.Again, consider avoiding RW references. And also, what about those nations that roleplay before 1980, or had their last census taken then? I would personally consider something like
most provincial district maps are based off 40-year-old censuses due to ongoing court disputes
8. "Why's he pointing the finger at us?" asks Jane Nelson. Again, why do you believe that this option needs a fixed-name speaker? "The real problem with gerrymandering is that everyone makes too big of a deal about it. So we've gerrymandered Texas year after year. Their party is doing the same with Maryland. I wonder how much money they paid Arty San.... Anyway, not does gerrymandering by different parties all cancel out in the end, but populations change. Gerrymandering, contrary to what some people say, is not a threat to our democracy."
Effect: @@NAME@@'s government passively tolerates gerrymanderingAgain, consider changing your province names to things that aren't RW state names.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:34 am
Mississippabama wrote:How about I get rid of 3, 4, 6, and 8?
by Australian rePublic » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:42 am
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