Is it possible to have all negative industries?

[Nscandia]

I have two positive industries right now, even with an imploded economy. Is it possible for all of them to be negative?

[The United Remnants of America]

I have two positive industries right now, even with an imploded economy. Is it possible for all of them to be negative?

Try being true communist. That should work.

Or Juche. Juche would work.

[Trodarian Benxboro Republic]

Yes. That's what happened on one of my countries.

[Nscandia]

Can I have an example?

[Luna Amore]

Vege Patch.

[Noahs Second Country]

Vege Patch.

Thanks.

[Australian rePublic]

Besides tourism (where tourists leave the country as many times as they desire), how does negative industry work? I mean, how does one produce negative cars? Or negative cheese? Or negative arms? Etc. You can't produce less than zero, can you? I mean, ai get NS is supposed to be stairical, but to the point where it defines the laws of physics? Unless it means you destroy more cars and more arms than you produce, which raises more questions than it answers

[Trotterdam]

It means that not only are not weaving any baskets right now, but you don't even have a clue how, and anybody who figured it out would likely be burned as a witch.

[Australian rePublic]

It means that not only are not weaving any baskets right now, but you don't even have a clue how, and anybody who figured it out would likely be burned as a witch.

Which means you're at 0. You can't have less than 0. The only way it could be possible is
1. You disobey the laws of physics and have some kind of dimention where it's possible to have less than 0
2. You start importing... for the entire purpose of destroying them.
Actually, considering the way that NationStates work, Number 2 is not as nonsensical as it sounds

[Helaw]

If you're up for seeing a stat as the economic health of the industry, then you could simply see a negative stat as being the appropriate companies and entities experiencing net economic loss in terms of said industry.

[Trotterdam]

Which means you're at 0. You can't have less than 0.

It is a well-known fact that for many stats which "realistically" can't go below 0, NationStates still tracks negative values in order to have a more useful way of sorting the many nations that would otherwise be tied at 0 on the census, and in order to determine how much effort it would take to get a positive value again.

If you're up for seeing a stat as the economic health of the industry, then you could simply see a negative stat as being the appropriate companies and entities experiencing net economic loss in terms of said industry.

Though I also like this explanation. It is possible for industries to exist even when they're not making a profit, especially if they're receiving government subsidies, or if some people are practicing the craft as a hobby or charity.

[Luna Amore]

Which means you're at 0. You can't have less than 0.

It is a well-known fact that for many stats which "realistically" can't go below 0, NationStates still tracks negative values in order to have a more useful way of sorting the many nations that would otherwise be tied at 0 on the census, and in order to determine how much effort it would take to get a positive value again.

It's of vital importance to know just exactly how much a nation hates cheese. Can't do that if we stop at 0.

[Drasnia]

It is a well-known fact that for many stats which "realistically" can't go below 0, NationStates still tracks negative values in order to have a more useful way of sorting the many nations that would otherwise be tied at 0 on the census, and in order to determine how much effort it would take to get a positive value again.

It's of vital importance to know just exactly how much a nation hates cheese. Can't do that if we stop at 0.

or how bad their fear of wicket baskets actually is!

[Australian rePublic]

Which means you're at 0. You can't have less than 0.

It is a well-known fact that for many stats which "realistically" can't go below 0, NationStates still tracks negative values in order to have a more useful way of sorting the many nations that would otherwise be tied at 0 on the census, and in order to determine how much effort it would take to get a positive value again.

So what about the economy stopping at 100%?

[Australian rePublic]

It's of vital importance to know just exactly how much a nation hates cheese. Can't do that if we stop at 0.

or how bad their fear of wicket baskets actually is!

But my tourism is negative. I don't have tourists, I just like factories- a lot. Also, why does this make me feel like I'm in the USA again? Oh that's right Universal Studios

[Bears Armed]

:?:
Besides tourism (where tourists leave the country as many times as they desire), how does negative industry work? I mean, how does one produce negative cars? Or negative cheese? Or negative arms? Etc. You can't produce less than zero, can you? I mean, ai get NS is supposed to be stairical, but to the point where it defines the laws of physics? Unless it means you destroy more cars and more arms than you produce, which raises more questions than it answers

I read it as meaning that you need to import to meet the local demand, whereas with positive ratings you have enough surplus to export some as well as meeting local needs.

[Trotterdam]

So what about the economy stopping at 100%?

The Economy stat is constrained to 0-100 to make it fit in with the freedom stats. I would put more stock in Economic Output as a meaningful measurement.

I read it as meaning that you need to import to meet the local demand, whereas with positive ratings you have enough surplus to export some as well as meeting local needs.

Though if you ban a particular product, that should cause both imports and exports to go down, not for people to keep importing more of it as you crack down harder.

Also, you'd expect a nation's imports and exports should be about equal. If you're exporting lots of stuff and importing nothing (as many strong-economy nations would be doing, according to your interpretation), then what are you doing with all that money? Swimming in it?

[Bears Armed]

I read it as meaning that you need to import to meet the local demand, whereas with positive ratings you have enough surplus to export some as well as meeting local needs.

Though if you ban a particular product, that should cause both imports and exports to go down, not for people to keep importing more of it as you crack down harder.

True.

Also, you'd expect a nation's imports and exports should be about equal. If you're exporting lots of stuff and importing nothing (as many strong-economy nations would be doing, according to your interpretation), then what are you doing with all that money? Swimming in it?

Well, if Scrooge McDuck can do so, why not?

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