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Postby Dytarma » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:59 pm

I noticed that there wasn't a lot of sport themed issues, and off the top of my head, I can think of the issue about using self enhancing drugs and the other issue being about hosting the Olympics. This issue draft is about having a sport from your nation being in the Olympics, which is sort of inspired from the chance of American Football being in the Olympics by 2024.
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1. Got rid of options 2 - 4
2. Replaced 2 - 4 with different drafts
3. Added another option and replaced Swishball with @@ANIMAL@@Ball
4. Added another option
5. Replaced the Frisbee with @@ANIMAL@@ head
6. Edited Options 2 and 3

[Title]To The Big Leagues!

[Description] With the recently strong growing popularity of Swishball, a game in which you throw a disembodied @@ANIMAL@@ head into a hoop, there have been talks about having the game be introduced to the @@REGION@@ Olympics.

[Option] “This’ll be great!” Exclaims @@RANDOMNAMEMALE@@, the newest receiver for the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMAL@@s. “I’ll finally be able to play the sport in the Olympics! And with all of @@NAME@@ watching, I’m sure we’ll beat our neighbors every time we face them! And by that, I mean every time. Give us the stuff to help us win, and we’ll win. For @@NAME@@, of course.” He soon throws a disembodied @@ANIMAL@@ head he brought into the trash bin, then proceeds to cheer.

[Effect] Victory after victory goes to the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMAL@@s due to “government help.”

[Option] “Why bother with us having submitted Swishball?” Comments Head of @@DENOMYN@@ Olympics @@RANDOMNAME@@. “It’s only a sport that @@NAME@@ uses as commonly as all of the Olympic sports. So basically, we might as well keep Swishball to ourselves, considering that nations like Blackacre and Maxtopia haven’t even heard of the game.”

[Effect] @@NAME@@’s national sport is Blackacre-ball.

[Option] “How about we have our own Olympics?” Questions self-centered patriotic athlete @@RANDOMNAME@@. “We’ll be able to celebrate our own games and only our own games. That way, people won’t get sad that their country lost. Either way, we win! We’ll, except the really competitive, but who cares about them?”

[Effect] @@DENOMYN@@ often cheer regardless of who wins.

[Option] "Why bother with them electro games anyway?" Questions Army General @@RANDOMNAME@@. "My only son would rather play them screen games than to play outside. It's a shame to what @@NAME@@ has come too. I would only play outside cause I had nothing else to do. And it'll help them lose weight, due to the rising obesity we have. The point being, ban video games and only allow sports. I want my boy back."

[Effect] Kids see the light of day for the first time due to the recent ban.

[Title]To The Big Leagues!

[Description] With the recently strong growing popularity of @@ANIMAL@@ball, a game in which you throw a disembodied @@ANIMAL@@ head into a hoop, there have been talks about having the game be introduced to the @@REGION@@ Olympics.

[Option] “This’ll be great!” Exclaims @@RANDOMNAMEMALE@@, the newest receiver for the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMAL@@s. “I’ll finally be able to play the sport in the Olympics! And with all of @@NAME@@ watching, I’m sure we’ll beat our neighbors every time we face them! And by that, I mean every time. Give us the stuff to help us win, and we’ll win. For @@NAME@@, of course.” He soon throws a disembodied @@ANIMAL@@ head he brought into the trash bin, then proceeds to cheer.

[Effect] Victory after victory goes to the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMAL@@s due to “government help.”

[Option] "Now hold on here, I have a suggestion." Butts in @@RANDOMNAME@@, a famous video gamer on Whotube. "I never played any sports, and look at me! I'm as famous and make as much money as any athlete in the Olympics! Sure, they could beat me at anything physical basically, but they couldn't beat me at Starcraft! Anyway, I think we should ban the Olympics, due to the fact that it could lower moral to those that aren't in the strong suit in "physicality." Also, it would be cool if we had something like the Olympics, but for video games, and video games only."

[Effect] Starcraft is the most popular sport in @@NAME@@.

[Option] "Now how about this idea?" Asks sports commentator for @@CAPITAL@@'s sports news channel @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Since we don't have our own sport in the Olympics, how about we have our own tournament? Of course, it will only be our nation, and only our nation, so no matter what, someone from @@NAME@@ wins! The really competitive might not like it, neither will the foreigners, but hey, they can have the pride of knowing that no matter what, their home nation wins. And maybe if a nation really wanted to be in it, they could pay a tax."

[Effect] The news most often only talk about the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ winning the @@ANIMAL@@ball tournament held in @@NAME@@.

[Option] “Eh, why do we have it?” Says local video-game nerd Tu Lazi. “All I ever do is play Starcraft, so why should I have to live in a nation in which we have contributed a sport to the Olympics? If anything, we should ban Swishball and make it illegal to have no video games. And besides, there are nerds like me who hate having to watch their favorite anime and then have a sports commercial interrupt it.”

[Effect] Schools often replace Swishball games with Starcraft tournaments.

[Option] “How about we do this?” Asks @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE@@, a well-known pro-Olympic and pro-videogame entrepreneur. "How about instead of Swishball, we have Starcraft as a sport instead? That way people will be happy that we have a sport in the Olympics, and the nerds will be happy since there are video games on TV. I mean, sure, the athletes may not be happy, but you can't please everyone.

[Effect] @@NAME@@ holds the most gold medals in video game competitions.

[Option] "Why bother with them electro games anyway?" Questions Army General @@RANDOMNAME@@. "My only son would rather play them screen games than to play outside. It's a shame to what @@NAME@@ has come too. I would only play outside cause I had nothing else to do. And it'll help them lose weight, due to the rising obesity we have. The point being, ban video games and only allow sports. I want my boy back."

[Effect] Kids see the light of day for the first time due to the recent ban.
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Postby Ransium » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:15 pm

There's a few more sports related issues - most pertinently to this draft 485.

Besides, your options drift further and further away from you premise, which was should you try to get Swishball to be an Olympic sport (I think). I think given this and 485, everything after 1 needs to be scrapped entirely (sorry!) Honestly I'm not enthused with the original premise entirely, is this truly something Leader would be involved in? It might be workable to start with a slightly different framing of, you really want swishball in the Olympics, how are you as leader going to try to accomplish it? But I'm not seeing a ton of interesting options screaming at me at the moment, besides politely asking and bribing.
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Postby Dytarma » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:05 am

Ransium wrote:There's a few more sports related issues - most pertinently to this draft 485.

Besides, your options drift further and further away from you premise, which was should you try to get Swishball to be an Olympic sport (I think). I think given this and 485, everything after 1 needs to be scrapped entirely (sorry!) Honestly I'm not enthused with the original premise entirely, is this truly something Leader would be involved in? It might be workable to start with a slightly different framing of, you really want swishball in the Olympics, how are you as leader going to try to accomplish it? But I'm not seeing a ton of interesting options screaming at me at the moment, besides politely asking and bribing.

Alright, so I would think Leader would be involved due to how much the people want their sport to be represented in the Olympics, sort of like how an invention can represent your nation, say (I think of this nation when I think helicopter) or something along those lines. So, with the other 3 options knocked out, what should be the opposing option?
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Postby Ransium » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:55 am

Okay, if you really want to keep the premise (which I still don't love), the second option is probably someone saying that the Olympics are an international event so having a sport that's mostly only played nationally is not in good faith. Then a third crazy option, but the obvious one of having your own Olympics just in @@NAME@@ is taken (in the boycotting the Olympics issue) and nothing else is spring to my mind at the moment, so you'll have to think about it.

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Postby Dytarma » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:46 am

Alright, I see that can work. But hey, you could always dismiss an issue if you don't like it.
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Postby Dytarma » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:10 pm

Bump.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:41 pm

Use the existing sport of @@ANIMAL@@ball. Also, I don't think one option issues tend to be accepted around here :P
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Postby Dytarma » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:46 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:Use the existing sport of @@ANIMAL@@ball. Also, I don't think one option issues tend to be accepted around here :P

Alright, and I haven't thought of any good other options yet.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:37 am

You got me thinking now, about whether a good and entertaining one option issue could exist. :)
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Postby Dytarma » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:06 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:You got me thinking now, about whether a good and entertaining one option issue could exist. :)

:) Thanks, but I think the only one option issue is the one where you decided to nuke Brasilistan, and the issue, in my eyes, is summed up as, "You did it! Screw you."
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:19 am

That's a zero option issue, I think.
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Postby Dytarma » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:52 am

It'll be funny to see a literal zero option issue.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:36 pm

Ransium wrote:Okay, if you really want to keep the premise (which I still don't love), the second option is probably someone saying that the Olympics are an international event so having a sport that's mostly only played nationally is not in good faith. Then a third crazy option, but the obvious one of having your own Olympics just in @@NAME@@ is taken (in the boycotting the Olympics issue) and nothing else is spring to my mind at the moment, so you'll have to think about it.


It's pretty bizarre to have your own Olympics. I'd suggest simply funding a tournament for your sport specifically, creating an international association solely for the purpose of aggrandizing your own athletes abroad. Think of the concepts behind ping-ping diplomacy that took place between the USA and China (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping-pong_diplomacy); or the USSR's traditional domination of chess, not just as a nation of origin for players but through its attempts to take command of the FIDE organization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE#Bobb ... troversies and the section after it on Other Controversies). As someone of Sri Lankan descent, both my parents were actually subject to Soviet chess diplomacy - they were both taught chess by Russian grandmasters when Russia attempted to court the Asian non-aligned nations.

I was under the impression that it would be appropriate to use baseball as an American example, but the USA's record in the world baseball championship is pretty dismal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... .28IBAF.29 If anything, the Cubans should really consider just appointing a baseball player to their Ministry of FA.

Many nations also use sports as a way to reconnect with diaspora, and to give their homegrown sports organizations even a minor institutional role in the cultural (and economic) life of potential ally nations and the large superpowers that tend to host diasporas - Gaelic football is a great example, as is kabbadi. These are all things you could consider as a nation dominated by a sport unpopular internationally.
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Postby Dytarma » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:48 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:
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I'm thinking about do the personal tournament one, due to it being a sport that is maily popular in @@NAME@@, but not so much everywhere else. And I guess I can understand why a personal Olympics wouldn't make sense. In fact, I'm thinking about adding an issue where they boycott the next Olympics until they add the sport. What do you think about that idea?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:59 pm

Interesting issue here. Since I have interest in these sports-themed issues, I like it. Although for option 2, wouldn't StarCraft be metagaming or something like that?
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Postby Dytarma » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:38 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Interesting issue here. Since I have interest in these sports-themed issues, I like it. Although for option 2, wouldn't StarCraft be metagaming or something like that?

Starcraft is just a video game the nerd plays, and since he wants to represent nerds, he wants to have the game being in a video game themed Olympics.
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For the premise of @@ANIMAL@@ball - instead of a frisbee, why not have them chucking @@a/an ANIMAL@@'s head through a hoop?
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Postby Dytarma » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:44 pm

Tinhampton wrote:For the premise of @@ANIMAL@@ball - instead of a frisbee, why not have them chucking @@a/an ANIMAL@@'s head through a hoop?

:lol2: That's a pretty good reason why I'd not allow a sport like that in my Olympics, sure, I'll add it.
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Dytarma wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Interesting issue here. Since I have interest in these sports-themed issues, I like it. Although for option 2, wouldn't StarCraft be metagaming or something like that?

Starcraft is just a video game the nerd plays, and since he wants to represent nerds, he wants to have the game being in a video game themed Olympics.

Now eSport Olympics sounds very intriguing.
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Outer Sparta wrote:
Dytarma wrote:Starcraft is just a video game the nerd plays, and since he wants to represent nerds, he wants to have the game being in a video game themed Olympics.

Now eSport Olympics sounds very intriguing.

Yeah, I'd be in that any day.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:28 am

Dytarma wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Now eSport Olympics sounds very intriguing.

Yeah, I'd be in that any day.

Gold medal to the best StarCraft team!
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Postby Dytarma » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:30 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Dytarma wrote:Yeah, I'd be in that any day.

Gold medal to the best StarCraft team!

That'll be the Dytarmish Hawks!
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:48 am

Dytarma wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Gold medal to the best StarCraft team!

That'll be the Dytarmish Hawks!

Not if the Spartan Dolphins or the Sparta Spartans compete!
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Postby Dytarma » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:51 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Dytarma wrote:That'll be the Dytarmish Hawks!

Not if the Spartan Dolphins or the Sparta Spartans compete!

We're the inventors of the sport, so we have the best of the best!
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:56 am

Dytarma wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Not if the Spartan Dolphins or the Sparta Spartans compete!

We're the inventors of the sport, so we have the best of the best!

You should submit your issue, but see if there's any editors that make any final statements.
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