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[SUBMITTED] @@LEADER@@'s Day Off

Postby Nation of Quebec » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:11 pm

I thought it would be fun to do a non-serious issue about @@LEADER@@'s vacation plans about deciding which NPC nation to visit.

Cheers to Ransium for the title suggestion.

What other NPC nations should I include on this issue? I avoided Blackacre, as it's been a bit overdone recently.

Title

@@LEADER@@'s Day Off

Description

It's not easy being in charge of @@NAME@@. It's a stressful job and after many arguments, your family, friends, and top staffers have convinced you to finally take a vacation. Now you just need to figure out where to go.

Validity

Must have a leader

Options

[option]"What about a safari?" suggests your sister who is also an amateur photographer. "I hear Bigtopia has lush jungles and plains filled with exotic animals. There's even some gorgeous lakes to swim in and picturesque waterfalls to photograph. The country might be poverty-striken, but we can always make sure we stay in the nicer areas."
[effect]government officials care little about the people of the lands they visit

[option]"I've heard good things about Manamana," advises your wealthy golf buddy while deciding what set of clubs to bring for the trip. "They've got some breathtaking beaches and golf courses for you to reduce your stress. Never mind the rumors that it's a tax haven. Speaking of, I need to get in touch with my banker there."
[effect]politicians are known to return from tropical islands with sunburn and a bigger bank account

[option]"We must make sure that your vacation is free of sin!" reminds your spiritual adviser, taking a break from organizing the government's bake sale. "If you want to go to an island, may I suggest the tiny island of San Monique? I hear the people there are godless hedonists and this is a golden opportunity for us to bring the message of @@FAITH@@ over to them. We bring the Word and aid to them, and you can relax on a beach when our work is done. Either way, it's still good karma."
[effect]it's not considered a vacation for @@DENOMYMPLURAL@@ unless they can convert at least one local to @@FAITH@@
Option only valid for nations that have a national religion

[option]"In East Lebatuck, vacations go to you!" jokes your eldest niece's East Lebatuckese lover. "Why not visit the Motherland and perhaps help smooth our relations over? Our home may be grey and cold, but we have opera and grand military parades you can enjoy in between those long diplomatic talks."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ tends to mix business and pleasure

[option]"Why not enjoy a mountain retreat in Brancaland?" proposes your personal physician who is always reminding you to reduce your stress. "Enjoy some skiing, hockey, and a dip into the natural hot springs. Your stress will melt away! Not to mention you'll send a very positive message to the people that health always comes first!"
[effect]nothing is more important to @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ than their health

[option]"Everyone knows that Marche Noir is the culture capital of the world!" maintains an obnoxious Marche Norian diplomat, who insists on being called 'Lady'. "We have fine wine, fine art, and the most cultured people in the world. All of you could learn a thing or two from us when it comes to culture. Even you, @@LEADER@@."
[effect]snobby politicians demand that they be referred to by their proper titles

[option]"The best vacation you can have isn't even on this planet!" chimes in the director of the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ Aeronautics and Space Administration. "Come down to our facility in Cape @@ANIMAL@@ and we'll give you a ride on one of our shuttles. You can have an orbital adventure and experience life like an astronaut. Unfortunately we won't be able to take you outside our thermosphere... yet! Perhaps you'd also be interested in a stay at our Mars biodome in rural North @@NAME@@?"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ recently returned home after an enterprising journey in space

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home and avoid breaking the law?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first, and that you aren't above the law. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. You're always praising the @@TYPE@@ in speeches. Put your @@CURRENCY@@s where your mouth is!"
[effect]rural cities in the middle of nowhere have been petitioning @@LEADER@@ to visit them
Option only valid for nations that have banned emigration

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. You're always praising the @@TYPE@@ in speeches. Put your @@CURRENCY@@s where your mouth is!"
[effect]rural cities in the middle of nowhere have been petitioning @@LEADER@@ to visit them
Option only valid for nations that haven't banned emigration


Title

@@LEADER@@'s Day Off

Description

It's not easy being in charge of @@NAME@@. It's a stressful job and after many arguments, your family, friends, and top staffers have convinced you to finally take a vacation. Now you just need to figure out where to go.

Validity

Must have a leader

Options

[option]"What about a safari?" suggests your sister who is also an amateur photographer. "I hear Bigtopia has lush jungles and plains filled with exotic animals. There's even some gorgeous lakes to swim in and picturesque waterfalls to photograph. The country might be poverty-striken, but we can always make sure we stay in the nicer areas."
[effect]government officials care little about the people of the lands they visit

[option]"I've always wanted to see the ruins of Ancient Maxtopia!" squees your young nephew as he jumps up and down repeatedly. "It would be so cool to see the tomb of the first King Maxbari! Mommy said that it's not safe there because of the extremist Violetists, but can we go there? Please? You can take some soldiers with you for protection!"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ doesn't go anywhere without being accompanied by a squadron of armed guards

[option]"I've heard good things about Manamana," advises your wealthy golf buddy while deciding what set of clubs to bring for the trip. "They've got some breathtaking beaches and golf courses for you to reduce your stress. Never mind the rumors that it's a tax haven. Speaking of, I need to get in touch with my banker there."
[effect]politicians are known to return from tropical islands with sunburn and a bigger bank account

[option]"We must make sure that your vacation is free of sin!" reminds your spiritual adviser, taking a break from organizing the government's bake sale. "If you want to go to an island, may I suggest the tiny island of San Lucina? I hear the people there are godless hedonists and this is a golden opportunity for us to bring the message of @@FAITH@@ over to them. We bring the Word and aid to them, and you can relax on a beach when our work is done. Either way, it's still good karma."
[effect]it's not considered a vacation for @@DENOMYMPLURAL@@ unless they can convert at least one local to @@FAITH@@
Option only valid for nations that have a national religion

[option]"In East Lebatuck, vacations go to you!" jokes your eldest niece's East Lebatuckese lover. "Why not visit the Motherland and perhaps help smooth our relations over? Our home may be grey and cold, but we have opera and grand military parades you can enjoy in between those long diplomatic talks."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ tends to mix business and pleasure

[option]"Why not enjoy a hockey game in Brancaland?" proposes your sports-loving uncle, seen wearing a jersey with the number of his favorite Bracalandian hockey player. "Besides, from what I hear they're a very friendly and cultured nation that embraces diversity. Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from them in between those hockey games! I hear their poutine is quite an excellent meal."
[effect]@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ have taken a shine to multiculturalism and cheesy foods

[option]"Everyone knows that Marche Noir is the culture capital of the world!" maintains an obnoxious Marche Norian diplomat, who insists on being called 'Lady'. "We have fine wine, fine art, and the most cultured people in the world. All of you could learn a thing or two from us when it comes to culture. Even you, @@LEADER@@."
[effect]snobby politicians demand that they be referred to by their proper titles

[option]"Why not come to the United Federation?" queries a United Federation ambassador who just happened to be walking by the room. "We have tons of sports, the best fast food money can buy, and museums that are second to none. Just make sure you renegotiate that trade deal with us while you're there."
[effect]citizens have noted that @@LEADER@@ has put on weight following a recent vacation to the United Federation

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home and avoid breaking the law?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first, and that you aren't above the law. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. You're always praising the @@TYPE@@ in speeches. Put your @@CURRENCY@@s where your mouth is!"
[effect]rural cities in the middle of nowhere have been petitioning @@LEADER@@ to visit them
Option only valid for nations that have banned emigration

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. You're always praising the @@TYPE@@ in speeches. Put your @@CURRENCY@@s where your mouth is!"
[effect]rural cities in the middle of nowhere have been petitioning @@LEADER@@ to visit them


Title

@@LEADER@@'s Day Off

Description

It's not easy being in charge of @@NAME@@. It's a stressful job and after many arguments, your family, friends, and top staffers have convinced you to finally take a vacation. Now you just need to figure out where to go.

Validity

Must have a leader

Options

[option]"What about a safari?" suggests your sister who is also an amateur photographer. "I hear Bigtopia has lush jungles and plains filled with exotic animals. There's even some picturesque waterfalls and rivers you can swim in. The country might be poverty-striken, but we can always make sure we stay in the nicer areas."
[effect]government officials care little about the people of the lands they visit

[option]"I've always wanted to see the ruins of Ancient Maxtopia!" squees your young nephew as he jumps up and down repeatedly. "It would be so cool to see the tomb of the first King Maxbari! Mommy said that it's not safe there because of the extremist Violetists, but can we go there? Please? You can take some soldiers with you for protection!"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ doesn't go anywhere without being accompanied by a squadron of armed guards

[option]"I've heard good things about Manamana," suggests your wealthy golf buddy while deciding what set of clubs to bring for the trip. "They've got some breathtaking beaches and golf courses for you to reduce your stress. Never mind the rumors that it's a tax haven. Speaking of, I need to get in touch with my banker there."
[effect]@@DEMONYM@@ politicians are known to take vacations in known tax havens

[option]"We must make sure that your vacation is free of sin!" reminds your spiritual adviser, taking a break from organizing the government's bake sale. "If you want to go to an island, may I suggest the tiny island of San Lucina? I hear the people there are godless hedonists and this is a golden opportunity for us to bring the message of @@FAITH@@ over to them. We bring the Word and aid to them, and you can relax on a beach when our work is done. Either way, it's still good karma."
[effect]it's not considered a vacation for @@DENOMYMPLURAL@@ unless they can convert at least one local to @@FAITH@@
Option only valid for nations that have a national religion

[option]"In East Lebatuck, vacations go to you!" jokes your eldest niece's East Lebatuckese lover. "Why not visit the Motherland and perhaps help smooth our relations over? Our home may be grey and cold, but we have opera and grand military parades you can enjoy in between those long diplomatic talks."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ tends to mix business and pleasure

[option]"Why not enjoy a hockey game in Brancaland?" suggests your sports-loving uncle, seen wearing a jersey with the number of his favorite Bracalandian hockey player. "Besides, from what I hear they're a very friendly and cultured nation that embraces diversity. Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from them in between those hockey games! I hear their poutine is quite an excellent meal."
[effect]@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ have taken a shine to multiculturalism and cheesy foods

[option]"Everyone knows that Marche Noir is the culture capital of the world!" maintains an obnoxious Marche Norian diplomat, who insists on being called 'Lady'. "We have fine wine, fine art, and the most cultured people in the world. All of you could learn a thing or two from us when it comes to culture. Even you, @@LEADER@@."
[effect]snobby politicians demand that they be referred to by their proper titles

[option]"Why not come to the United Federation?" asks a United Federation ambassador who just happened to be walking by the room. "We have tons of sports, the best fast food money can buy, and museums that are second to none. Just make sure you renegotiate that trade deal with us while you're there."
[effect]citizens have noted that @@LEADER@@ has put on weight following a recent vacation to the United Federation

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home and avoid breaking the law?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first, and that you aren't above the law. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. You're always praising the @@TYPE@@ in speeches. Put your @@CURRENCY@@s where your mouth is!"
[effect]where @@LEADER@@ goes, the people's tourism money follows
Option only valid for nations that have banned emigration

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. You're always praising the @@TYPE@@ in speeches. Put your @@CURRENCY@@s where your mouth is!"
[effect]where @@LEADER@@ goes, the people's tourism money follows


Title

It's Time To Take Some Time Off

Description

It's not easy being in charge of @@NAME@@. It's a stressful job and after many arguments, your family, friends, and top staffers have convinced you to finally take a vacation. Now you just need to figure out where to go.

Validity

Must have a leader, emigration not banned

Options

[option]"What about a safari?" suggests your sister who is also an amateur photographer. "I hear Maxkanda has lush jungles and plains filled with exotic animals. There's even some picturesque waterfalls and rivers you can swim in. It might make the Natives restless, but it will be the experience of a lifetime!"
[effect]government officials care little about the people of the lands they visit

[option]"I've always wanted to see the ruins of Ancient Maxtopia!" squees your young nephew as he jumps up and down repeatedly. "It would be so cool to see the tomb of the first King Maxbari! Mommy said that it's not safe there because of the extremist Violets, but can we go there? Please? You can take some soldiers with you for protection!"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ doesn't go anywhere without being accompanied by a squadron of armed guards

[option]"I've heard good things about Manamana," suggests your wealthy golf buddy while deciding what set of clubs to bring for the trip. "They've got some breathtaking beaches and golf courses for you to reduce your stress. Never mind the rumors that it's a tax haven. Speaking of, I need to get in touch with my banker there."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ is facing criticism over a recent vacation at a tropical island and tax paradise

[option]"in East Lebatuk, vacations go to you!" jokes your eldest niece's East Lebatukese boyfriend. "Why not visit the Motherland and perhaps help smooth our relations over? Our home may be cold, but we have hockey and grand military parades you can enjoy in between those long diplomatic talks."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ tends to mix business and pleasure

[option]"Everyone knows the best hockey can be found in Brancaland!" suggests your sports-loving nephew, who is wearing a jersey with the number of his favorite Bracalandian hockey player. "Besides, from what I hear they're a very friendly and cultured nation that embraces diversity. Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from them in between those hockey games! I hear their poutine is quite an excellent meal."
[effect]@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ have taken a shine to multiculturalism and cheesy foods

[option]"Why not come to the United Federation?" interrupts Edward Rump, the television host turned President of the United Federation, who you've been trying to avoid today. "We got fast food, the best food, and some great people. Come and visit me in my yuuge luxury tower and live like a king! I'll even give you tips on how to make @@NAME@@ great again!"
[effect]citizens have noted that @@LEADER@@ has put on weight following a recent vacation to the United Federation
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Postby Abhichandra » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:19 pm

First of all, I love this issue because it's really unique! I haven't seen anything quite like it yet. But for the first option, you said "your sister who is also an amateur photographer, so does that mean you are an amateur photographer too? And if you want to include random names for options 1-5 and 7. Lastly, I am confused on what " interrupts Edward Rump, the television host turned President of the United Federation", means.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:23 pm

Abhichandra wrote:First of all, I love this issue because it's really unique! I haven't seen anything quite like it yet. But for the first option, you said "your sister who is also an amateur photographer, so does that mean you are an amateur photographer too?

I think that NoQ intended to say that "your sister doubles up as an amateur photographer."

Abhichandra wrote:And if you want to include random names for options 1-5 and 7.

That's NoQ's call, but I think that they're OK as they are.

Abhichandra wrote:Lastly, I am confused on what " interrupts Edward Rump, the television host turned President of the United Federation", means.

It's a reference to Donald Trump.
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Postby Abhichandra » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:24 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Abhichandra wrote:First of all, I love this issue because it's really unique! I haven't seen anything quite like it yet. But for the first option, you said "your sister who is also an amateur photographer, so does that mean you are an amateur photographer too?

I think that NoQ intended to say that "your sister doubles up as an amateur photographer."

Abhichandra wrote:And if you want to include random names for options 1-5 and 7.

That's NoQ's call, but I think that they're OK as they are.

Abhichandra wrote:Lastly, I am confused on what " interrupts Edward Rump, the television host turned President of the United Federation", means.

It's a reference to Donald Trump.


Thank you for the clarification! :)

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Postby Ransium » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:57 pm

Oooh, how fun! Don't love the Donald Trump reference, IMO it's opening a Pandora's box of inviting issues referencing DT's adventures as president directly. Personally, I'd prefer not to go there. Alt-titles:

All Work And No Play?
@@Leader@@'s Day Off
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Postby The United Providences of Perland » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:10 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:I thought it would be fun to do a non-serious issue about @@LEADER@@'s vacation plans about deciding which NPC nation to visit.

Not completely sold on the title. I welcome new title suggestions.

What other NPC nations should I include on this issue? I avoided Blackacre, as it's been a bit overdone recently.

Title

It's Time To Take Some Time Off

Description

It's not easy being in charge of @@NAME@@. It's a stressful job and after many arguments, your family, friends, and top staffers have convinced you to finally take a vacation. Now you just need to figure out where to go.

Validity

Must have a leader, emigration not banned

Options

[option]"What about a safari?" suggests your sister who is also an amateur photographer. "I hear Maxkanda has lush jungles and plains filled with exotic animals. There's even some picturesque waterfalls and rivers you can swim in. It might make the Natives restless, but it will be the experience of a lifetime!"
[effect]government officials care little about the people of the lands they visit

[option]"I've always wanted to see the ruins of Ancient Maxtopia!" squees your young nephew as he jumps up and down repeatedly. "It would be so cool to see the tomb of the first King Maxbari! Mommy said that it's not safe there because of the extremist Violets, but can we go there? Please? You can take some soldiers with you for protection!"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ doesn't go anywhere without being accompanied by a squadron of armed guards

[option]"I've heard good things about Manamana," suggests your wealthy golf buddy while deciding what set of clubs to bring for the trip. "They've got some breathtaking beaches and golf courses for you to reduce your stress. Never mind the rumors that it's a tax haven. Speaking of, I need to get in touch with my banker there."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ is facing criticism over a recent vacation at a tropical island and tax paradise

[option]"in East Lebatuk, vacations go to you!" jokes your eldest niece's East Lebatukese boyfriend. "Why not visit the Motherland and perhaps help smooth our relations over? Our home may be cold, but we have hockey and grand military parades you can enjoy in between those long diplomatic talks."
[effect]@@LEADER@@ tends to mix business and pleasure

[option]"Everyone knows the best hockey can be found in Brancaland!" suggests your sports-loving nephew, who is wearing a jersey with the number of his favorite Bracalandian hockey player. "Besides, from what I hear they're a very friendly and cultured nation that embraces diversity. Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from them in between those hockey games! I hear their poutine is quite an excellent meal."
[effect]@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ have taken a shine to multiculturalism and cheesy foods

[option]"Why not come to the United Federation?" interrupts Edward Rump, the television host turned President of the United Federation, who you've been trying to avoid today. "We got fast food, the best food, and some great people. Come and visit me in my yuuge luxury tower and live like a king! I'll even give you tips on how to make @@NAME@@ great again!"
[effect]citizens have noted that @@LEADER@@ has put on weight following a recent vacation to the United Federation

[option]"Why not take your vacation right here at home?" asks your overly patriotic personal assistant. "It'll show the people that you put @@NAME@@ first. It'll encourage them to take their vacations in other parts of the county, and that will end up benefiting our tourism industry. Put your money where your mouth is when you praise our nation in your speeches!"
[effect]where @@LEADER@@ goes, the people's tourism money follows

NoQ you know better, get the ugly comma out of the last effect line! As for a name idea, how about "Vacation Nation."
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:13 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Abhichandra wrote:First of all, I love this issue because it's really unique! I haven't seen anything quite like it yet. But for the first option, you said "your sister who is also an amateur photographer, so does that mean you are an amateur photographer too?

I think that NoQ intended to say that "your sister doubles up as an amateur photographer."

Abhichandra wrote:And if you want to include random names for options 1-5 and 7.

That's NoQ's call, but I think that they're OK as they are.

Abhichandra wrote:Lastly, I am confused on what " interrupts Edward Rump, the television host turned President of the United Federation", means.

It's a reference to Donald Trump.


Exactly this.

Ransium wrote:Oooh, how fun! Don't love the Donald Trump reference, IMO it's opening a Pandora's box of inviting issues referencing DT's adventures as president directly. Personally, I'd prefer not to go there. Alt-titles:

All Work And No Play?
@@Leader@@'s Day Off


Good title suggestions.

Yeah, I was debating whether or not to use the Trump reference. I could take out that option. Is there something you'd recommend I'd replace it with?
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Postby Aclion » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:37 pm

Ransium wrote:Oooh, how fun! Don't love the Donald Trump reference, IMO it's opening a Pandora's box of inviting issues referencing DT's adventures as president directly. Personally, I'd prefer not to go there. Alt-titles:

All Work And No Play?
@@Leader@@'s Day Off

Edward Rump been referenced before. (which raises an issue for nations that get the pre-president issues after getting this one)

I like @@Leader@@'s Day Off
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:15 pm

Updated with a new draft. Took out the Edward Rump character and replaced him with a random ambassador.
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Postby Abhichandra » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:38 pm

You just might be inspired by our history to help make @@NAME@@ great again!"


Good job removing the reference, but this line is sort-of still a reference to him.

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Postby North Isseggggnignigsegigisegggg Islands » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:43 am

This is a good issue, but what about having a road trip option?

Eligibility: Cars not banned
[option]"What about a road trip on some of the best driving roads in the world?" suggests @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Transport, who is known to be a massive petrolhead. "We could take some of our country's best cars and go on some mountain roads in other countries. We'll be advertising our cars to other countries, while having fun at the same time! I hear Marche Noir is beautiful this time of year..."
[effect]the constant roar of V12 cars on countryside roads is straining relations with other countries
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:00 am

Nation of Quebec wrote:Maxkanda
Nation of Quebec wrote:Maxtopia
Do we really need two nations named after Max?

There are several existing NPC nations that could plausibly house jungles and exotic animals. Bigtopia and Tasmania come to mind, though I don't remember offhand if anything has been established about their canon environments, and I'm not sure the "restless natives" bit would work for either (while neither is an especially prosperous nation, both are developed enough to be in touch with the rest of the world, and presumably have tourism industries).

Nation of Quebec wrote:Mommy said that it's not safe there because of the extremist Violets, but can we go there?
"Violetists".

Nation of Quebec wrote:[option]"in East Lebatuk, vacations go to you!" jokes your eldest niece's East Lebatukese lover.
"Lebatuck", capitalize "In".

However, this meme is irrelevant to what the option ends up suggestion. I was expecting something like inviting foreign entertainers to come hold a fair at your capital, rather than going out to see them. Also remember that this meme was originally started by critics of the Soviet Union.

On further thought, this would actually be fitting for a less-pleasant nation to offer, since it gives them more control over which parts of their nation other people get to see and lets them look more glamorous than they really are. North Korea is doing that kind of thing today. All the same, a few events isn't really the same as a vacation, so...

Oh, finally, both your East Lebatuck and Brancaland options mention hockey, plus Manamana emphasizing golf and the United Federation talking about sports in general. Maybe vary your activities a little more?

Nation of Quebec wrote:asks an United Federation ambassador
That should be "a United Federation", since despite the spelling, it's pronounce "yoo-nited", so it starts with a consonant.

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Aclion wrote:Edward Rump been referenced before. (which raises an issue for nations that get the pre-president issues after getting this one)


Right, and I wouldn't object so vehemently with his continued use in as a business person (although, I don't think it's a great idea anymore either). What I don't want are a million issues that directly reference DT as a world leader. I think it would decrease the generality of issues.

Nation of Quebec wrote:Is there something you'd recommend I'd replace it with?


Sorry I didn't get back to you more quickly. I think your route is a good one.

I agree that Bigtopia would be a sensible nation for 1.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:37 am

Changes made based on Trotterdam and Ransium's suggestions.

Added an option for Marche Noir for a "culture" vacation. They've been depicted as cultural and snobby before, so that's what I went with.

What do you think of a religious option? Perhaps @@LEADER@@ takes a pilgrimage to @@FAITH@@'s unnamed holy land, or perhaps a spiritual adviser suggests travelling to a primitive island to help convert the masses while @@LEADER@@ relaxes on a beach.

North Isseggggnignigsegigisegggg Islands wrote:This is a good issue, but what about having a road trip option?

Eligibility: Cars not banned
[option]"What about a road trip on some of the best driving roads in the world?" suggests @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Transport, who is known to be a massive petrolhead. "We could take some of our country's best cars and go on some mountain roads in other countries. We'll be advertising our cars to other countries, while having fun at the same time! I hear Marche Noir is beautiful this time of year..."
[effect]the constant roar of V12 cars on countryside roads is straining relations with other countries


That's worth considering, although I don't want to have too many options in this one.
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Postby Ransium » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:33 am

I like the pilgrimage idea. Beyond the fact it'd be getting at a stat no other issue on the list is, I believe Haij is the largest yearly human migration in the world, IRL, so I think it seems like a sensible add to me.

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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:48 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:What do you think of a religious option? Perhaps @@LEADER@@ takes a pilgrimage to @@FAITH@@'s unnamed holy land, or perhaps a spiritual adviser suggests travelling to a primitive island to help convert the masses while @@LEADER@@ relaxes on a beach.
It's an interesting choice. The pilgrimage things fits many real-life religions quite well (Islam is the most prominent one, though some other religions used to care more about pilgrimages than they do today), but as you imply to be aware of by referencing an "unnamed" land, the problem is that there's no way of knowing where the player's religion's holy land is, and, in particular, I suspect that many roleplayers' religions are homegrown religions whose most important sites are in their own nation - most of the ones that aren't real-life religions, I'd bet. That could make it overlap with the current last option.

The missionary option is a little less inspiring as a vacation, but avoids that problem.

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:16 pm

I decided to write out both religious options. Which one do you think I should use for the issue?

Both options obviously would need to have it so that @@FAITH@@ is unlocked. The Holy Lands aren't given a location, so it's still within the players' ability to have it so any kind of holy land is in their nation.

The second version of the option would come right after the Manamana option, and it's mainly a reference to Christian Missionaries who go to tropical island nations to convert the locals.

[option]"Why not use this time to show @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ your commitment to @@FAITH@@?" asks your spiritual adviser after unsuccessful attempts to convert the ambassadors to @@FAITH@@. "Take the pilgrimage to the Holy Lands, make a few public prayers, and lead @@NAME@@ into a new era of purity and divinity. Show the masses that @@FAITH@@ always comes first!"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ is seen as a preaching machine

[option]"We must make sure that your vacation is free of sin!" reminds your spiritual adviser, taking a break from organizing the government's bake sale. "If you want to go to an island, may I suggest the tiny island of San Lucina? I hear the people there are sun worshipers and this is a golden opportunity for us to bring the message of @@FAITH@@ over to them. We bring the Word and aid to them, and you can relax on a beach when our work is done. Either way, it's still good karma."
[effect]it's not considered a vacation for @@DENOMYMPLURAL@@ unless they can convert at least one local to @@FAITH@@
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Postby Abhichandra » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:34 pm

I am confused as to why emigration has to not be banned for this issue. And at the end of options 5 and 6, the line: "perhaps you can learn a thing or two: is redundant. Try using "maybe you could learn something new from them in between those hockey games!" for option 5, or something like that.

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Nation of Quebec wrote:I decided to write out both religious options. Which one do you think I should use for the issue?
The second is a bit more interesting because the first tries so hard to be generically applicable to any faith that it lacks character.

Except the fact that a lot of the nations in my region are sun worshippers and wouldn't feel that there's anything wrong with that.

Yeah, that's the problem with letting players choose their own religions...

Abhichandra wrote:I am confused as to why emigration has to not be banned for this issue.
Most nations that have banned emigration have banned leaving the country for any reason, even temporarily for a vacation. Because these nations tend to be highly isolationist and don't want their people to know what the outside world is like, and anyway, how are they to stop you from running off while you're outside their borders?

Admittedly, it's common for nations to hypocritically allow their leaders to do things the common people can't.

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Nation of Quebec wrote:I decided to write out both religious options. Which one do you think I should use for the issue?
The second is a bit more interesting because the first tries so hard to be generically applicable to any faith that it lacks character.

Except the fact that a lot of the nations in my region are sun worshippers and wouldn't feel that there's anything wrong with that.

Yeah, that's the problem with letting players choose their own religions...

Abhichandra wrote:I am confused as to why emigration has to not be banned for this issue.
Most nations that have banned emigration have banned leaving the country for any reason, even temporarily for a vacation. Because these nations tend to be highly isolationist and don't want their people to know what the outside world is like, and anyway, how are they to stop you from running off while you're outside their borders?

Admittedly, it's common for nations to hypocritically allow their leaders to do things the common people can't.


Yeah, honestly, I'm not so keen on the emigration ban qualifier myself, just because of the fact that a leader would reasonably not give a shit. My own suggestion would be to make the emigration ban a conditional variant of the last option, where the overly patriotic personal assistant makes a very effusive and polite aside about all the alternatives breaking the law. That way, you're explicitly exempting yourself from a preexisting ban but still have all the options to flaunt it at will.
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:44 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:My own suggestion would be to make the emigration ban a conditional variant of the last option, where the overly patriotic personal assistant makes a very effusive and polite aside about all the alternatives breaking the law.
I think this is a very good idea!

This variant would naturally increase Integrity because you're not holding yourself above the law.

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:18 pm

Good suggestion for the emigration validity. Taken it out of the main validity, and added it to the last option.

Added the religious option as well.
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:49 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:Taken it out of the main validity, and added it to the last option.
Our intent was to have two versions of the "stay in your nation" option, one for nations with emigration and one without, not just making the option only appear in the latter case. The former variant would emphasize national pride and the tourism industry, as in your original draft, while the latter would emphasize not being above the law (national pride would probably still be involved, but I don't really see how the "stimulate tourism" angle works here).

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:12 pm

Haven't forgotten about this. Been a busy week.

Updated with two variations for the "vacation in @@NAME@@" option.
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Postby Leutria » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:33 am

I really like this issue and while it has a lot of options they all seem good to me. Only issue I noticed is the repetition of the word known in the tax haven effect.
[effect]@@DEMONYM@@ politicians are known to take vacations in known tax havens

Perhaps change it to say they frequently take vacations in known tax havens? Or simply say they are know to take vacations in tax havens?

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