[MEGATHREAD] Unusual Issue Effects Since New Update

[Drasnia]

Sooooo...

Issue number 536, "Every witch way spells disaster"

I chose option 5, the one about stamping out ignorance:

"no one believes anything until it has been strenuously tested and peer-reviewed."

This led to a decrease of my average life-span by a full year and a half.

What the heck?

Testing products can be dangerous But seriously, I'm not sure what would cause this. Interesting result, tho.

[Trotterdam]

"Caution! Danger!"

"Eh, this warning sign doesn't cite any sources. It's probably nothing."

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Why does putting in different gender-specific 'Porta-Pottys' make my employment rate plunge down?

[Godular]

"Caution! Danger!"

"Eh, this warning sign doesn't cite any sources. It's probably nothing."

Just need to have a citations listing on the back of the sign

[A Humanist Science]

Sooooo...

Issue number 536, "Every witch way spells disaster"

I chose option 5, the one about stamping out ignorance:

"no one believes anything until it has been strenuously tested and peer-reviewed."

This led to a decrease of my average life-span by a full year and a half.

What the heck?

Testing products can be dangerous But seriously, I'm not sure what would cause this. Interesting result, tho.

The empirically minded, having destroyed their last shred of childhood imagination under the crushing weight of stuffy-old rule-based science, die of cirrhosis as they try to drink away their inescapable ennui.

**lone saxophone film noir music here**

[Luna Amore]

Sooooo...

Issue number 536, "Every witch way spells disaster"

I chose option 5, the one about stamping out ignorance:

"no one believes anything until it has been strenuously tested and peer-reviewed."

This led to a decrease of my average life-span by a full year and a half.

What the heck?

Not quite. Your change for that one was:
Years 30.65 → 30.55 0.33%
Basically, it's a very tiny consequence of a consequence of a couple consequences.

I'm tempted to say this is the canonical reason:

"Caution! Danger!"

"Eh, this warning sign doesn't cite any sources. It's probably nothing."

[Godular]

Sooooo...

Issue number 536, "Every witch way spells disaster"

I chose option 5, the one about stamping out ignorance:

"no one believes anything until it has been strenuously tested and peer-reviewed."

This led to a decrease of my average life-span by a full year and a half.

What the heck?

Not quite. Your change for that one was:
Years 30.65 → 30.55 0.33%
Basically, it's a very tiny consequence of a consequence of a couple consequences.

I'm tempted to say this is the canonical reason:

"Caution! Danger!"

"Eh, this warning sign doesn't cite any sources. It's probably nothing."

Huh... woulda sworn it was that one which had the life-span drop of 1.5 years... I'd just been happy about hitting 32 years and blam something killed it.

Musta been the one before, then.

[Pencil Sharpeners 2]

Nation: Xynlandia, issue 141 option 2.
This decreased my law enforcement. I think that's probably linked to the decrease in economic output, but since the option seems to have the primary aim of increasing law enforcement, it doesn't really seem right.

[Skappola]

Nation: Skappola Issue NO. 274
"Brotherly Love - A Bit Too Close To Home?"

Choosing Option 4:
"Duuude, marriage is like totally outdated," says a hippie, wearing a multi-colored robe and in need of a wash. "They're like, restrictive and they bring down the vibe, man. Why put people in a box; let us roam free and we can all be brothers and sisters! It's what's nature wanted!"

Causes Civil Rights to fall by 7.3%, recreational drug use to fall by 1.2%, ideological radicality to drop by 7%, and social conservatism to rise by 77.6%. I think the issue effects are backwards for this particular choice.

[Bedetopia]

Nation: Skappola Issue NO. 274
"Brotherly Love - A Bit Too Close To Home?"

Choosing Option 4:
"Duuude, marriage is like totally outdated," says a hippie, wearing a multi-colored robe and in need of a wash. "They're like, restrictive and they bring down the vibe, man. Why put people in a box; let us roam free and we can all be brothers and sisters! It's what's nature wanted!"

Causes Civil Rights to fall by 7.3%, recreational drug use to fall by 1.2%, ideological radicality to drop by 7%, and social conservatism to rise by 77.6%. I think the issue effects are backwards for this particular choice.

Marriage is considered a right with no other alternative. This option seems to basically ban it, and the game thinks people who can't marry are less free even though that hippie said it's restrictive. A badly worded choice, if you ask me.
Ideological radicality (discussed above) and social conservatism are directly linked to civil rights, so you can ignore the changes there.

[Bears Armed]

Issue #474, 'Mesozoic Park': Why did choosing option 2, against re-creating the dinosaurs, reduce my Black market rating?

Black MarketGolden thalers 17,618.95 → 17,187.87 2.4%

I could understand a possible slight increase (because of people resorting to the black market for buying the dinosaurs that they want, of course), instead, but I don't see how it could cause this drop...

[Trotterdam]

Okay, I don't care what the actual explanation for this one is...

people resorting to the black market for buying the dinosaurs that they want

This needs to be a thing now.

[Bedetopia]

#321 Cowboys and... Aliens?

Both options raise Civil Rights, that doesn't make sense.

The first one, some time ago.

The second one, just now.

[Trotterdam]

One raises the rights of your existing citizens and lowers the rights of immigrants, the other is the other way around. Which part dominates probably depends on your previous legislation. If you've already crushed both groups' rights to near-zero, they can't go much lower, so only the positive part sticks.

[Skappola]

Nation: Skappola Issue NO. 274
"Brotherly Love - A Bit Too Close To Home?"

Choosing Option 4:
"Duuude, marriage is like totally outdated," says a hippie, wearing a multi-colored robe and in need of a wash. "They're like, restrictive and they bring down the vibe, man. Why put people in a box; let us roam free and we can all be brothers and sisters! It's what's nature wanted!"

Causes Civil Rights to fall by 7.3%, recreational drug use to fall by 1.2%, ideological radicality to drop by 7%, and social conservatism to rise by 77.6%. I think the issue effects are backwards for this particular choice.

Marriage is considered a right with no other alternative. This option seems to basically ban it, and the game thinks people who can't marry are less free even though that hippie said it's restrictive. A badly worded choice, if you ask me.
Ideological radicality (discussed above) and social conservatism are directly linked to civil rights, so you can ignore the changes there.

Wait, that option bans marriage? They need to seriously be more clear about that then, because what it sounds like is the government is just stops taking account of marriages.

[Pencil Sharpeners 2]

Nation: Pterodoria, issue 483, option 2.

2. "Oh the horror! THE HORROR!" gasps the McRonalds CEO as he watches a video of protesters deep-frying the company mascot. "Not Ronald! Anyone but Ronald! They've gone bananas! @@LEADER@@, their complaints are ridiculous, I assure you. They should be grateful for the wage they get for, what, flipping a few burgers? Give me a break. I implore you to send in the police and stop these mouth-breathers from scaring away our custom- eh, I mean, to protect our citizens, of course..."

Effect: income equality raised by over 77%. My income equality was very low, but this is still a significant increase given that it dropped me 150 places for average income of wealthy. I don't understand how refusing to raise the minimum wage increases income equality (giving a 51% increase in average income of poor).

[Maljaratas]

Nation: Pterodoria, issue 483, option 2.

2. "Oh the horror! THE HORROR!" gasps the McRonalds CEO as he watches a video of protesters deep-frying the company mascot. "Not Ronald! Anyone but Ronald! They've gone bananas! @@LEADER@@, their complaints are ridiculous, I assure you. They should be grateful for the wage they get for, what, flipping a few burgers? Give me a break. I implore you to send in the police and stop these mouth-breathers from scaring away our custom- eh, I mean, to protect our citizens, of course..."

Effect: income equality raised by over 77%. My income equality was very low, but this is still a significant increase given that it dropped me 150 places for average income of wealthy. I don't understand how refusing to raise the minimum wage increases income equality (giving a 51% increase in average income of poor).

I have no idea why it would raise the average income, but the increase was actually quite tiny, from 0.72 to 1.28 on income equality (of poor seems to be a much larger increase)

[Drasnia]

I just answered 284.5.

Interestingly enough my religiousness skyrocketed: Religiousness 24.30 → 711.72 (2,829%) while my secularism only dropped a bit in comparison: Secularism 16.88 → 14.84 (12.1%).

Neither of these effects are at all surprising, but I'm a bit surprised by how much religiousness rose with how little secularism dropped. I had always thought they were fairly well connected. Just an interesting observation.

[Godular]

Issue 538

Chose option 3: "One washroom is fine, sweeties, but why all this fuss over artificial categories?" asks Mx. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, looking great in a fetching tuxedo and miniskirt combo. "Just take off the boy and girl signs on the doors, and be gender fluid about where you pass your fluids. Where would you be without me, darling?"

Increased inclusiveness... and authoritarianism (with a commensurate reduction in civil rights).

Bwuh?

[Jutsa]

Issue 538

Chose option 3: "One washroom is fine, sweeties, but why all this fuss over artificial categories?" asks Mx. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, looking great in a fetching tuxedo and miniskirt combo. "Just take off the boy and girl signs on the doors, and be gender fluid about where you pass your fluids. Where would you be without me, darling?"

Increased inclusiveness... and authoritarianism (with a commensurate reduction in civil rights).

Bwuh?

Oooh yeah! I got that result too. That was kind of odd.
Mind my adding, we also had an increase in taxation for some reason!

Another one I got was ... oh, I don't remember what its name was, but for some reason, forcing females to wear clothing to the point where only their eyes could see seemed to raise civil rights.

[British West Zuzunia]

#44 "No Pain, No Gain!", option 1, "Torture is the only way that we can get these idiots to tell us anything. After all, violence is the only shared language we have with these scum."

No effect on Civil Rights, but Inclusiveness is up 0.14%.

I guess... because we're speaking our shared language?

Also, Law Enforcement is up significantly, which makes sense, but it appears to have dragged all other areas of government expenditure, including areas that it makes little sense to be raised by approving torture, like Public Education, Public Healthcare, Welfare, and Foreign Aid, up with it.

[SgtSarros]

Issue 538

Chose option 3: "One washroom is fine, sweeties, but why all this fuss over artificial categories?" asks Mx. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, looking great in a fetching tuxedo and miniskirt combo. "Just take off the boy and girl signs on the doors, and be gender fluid about where you pass your fluids. Where would you be without me, darling?"

Increased inclusiveness... and authoritarianism (with a commensurate reduction in civil rights).

Bwuh?

Oooh yeah! I got that result too. That was kind of odd.
Mind my adding, we also had an increase in taxation for some reason!

Another one I got was ... oh, I don't remember what its name was, but for some reason, forcing females to wear clothing to the point where only their eyes could see seemed to raise civil rights.

Yeah a reduction in civil rights, and an increase in social conservatism ( ?? ) Pretty sure this is not a conservative way of thinking..

[Trotterdam]

#330 option 1 ("stores employing more than 100 employees are required to be at least twenty miles from any competitor") raises economic freedom? And this on a puppet that wasn't previously anti-capitalist, either.

I've heard about Economic Freedom including a "barrier to entry" component, so this might be intended as a representation of it becoming easier for small businesses to set up, but even so government intervention cracking down on large businesses even when they would outcompete the small ones in a free market does not seem like something that should increase economic freedom.

[Godular]

Issue 277.

Chose the following option:

1. "Whatever happened to freedom of press?" asks paparazzo @@RANDOMNAME@@, indignantly. "Why aren't you allowing honest, hardworking people like myself to do our jobs? If our beloved leader slips on a banana peel, that's big news on the level of national security! We must be allowed to take pictures of you whenever we want, wherever we want! Oh, and any comment on the rumors you had a one-night stand with your nei..." The question is cut off as a horde of journalists crowd in to ask questions.

Resulted in a 9.1% increase in authoritarianism and an increase in social conservatism.

Bwuh? (I swear, sometimes its like the game is taunting me...)

[Luna Amore]

Issue 277.

Chose the following option:

1. "Whatever happened to freedom of press?" asks paparazzo @@RANDOMNAME@@, indignantly. "Why aren't you allowing honest, hardworking people like myself to do our jobs? If our beloved leader slips on a banana peel, that's big news on the level of national security! We must be allowed to take pictures of you whenever we want, wherever we want! Oh, and any comment on the rumors you had a one-night stand with your nei..." The question is cut off as a horde of journalists crowd in to ask questions.

Resulted in a 9.1% increase in authoritarianism and an increase in social conservatism.

Bwuh? (I swear, sometimes its like the game is taunting me...)

Authoritarianism
Stalins 0.11 → 0.12 9.1%

Social Conservatism
Bush-Santorum Dawning Terror Index 40.92 → 41.15 0.56%

Your nation didn't feel the main effect, so secondary ones are minor but noticeable.