[MEGATHREAD] Unusual Issue Effects Since New Update

[Trotterdam]

Option 1 of issue 336 doesn't do anything.(legalizes prenuptial contracts in marriages)

I've seen it increase social conservatism and reduce civil rights.

I've seen prenuptial contracts lowering Compassion (because nothing ruins a romantic mood quite as much as already planning how you're going to break up).

[British West Zuzunia]

#507 "Would A Rochebaron By Any Other Name Smell Just As Sweet?", option 2 (ban cheese). Cheese Exports, Pizza Delivery, and Gambling(?) go down, no industries go up. Despite this, Economic Output and all income indicators across the board go up. And despite the creation of a new illegal market in cheese, Black Market goes down, so this isn't even explainable by people taking up new, more lucrative, careers in illegal cheese dealing.

Also, the issue continues to use "@@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@s" where it should use "@@DEMONYMPLURAL@@" in the last option. It's not obvious on this nation, which responds well to automatic demonyming, but it is on Eahland, where the noun (Eahliscmann), plural noun (Eahliscmenn), and adjective (Eahlisc) forms are noticeably different.

[New Dukaine]

I've seen it increase social conservatism and reduce civil rights.

I've seen prenuptial contracts lowering Compassion (because nothing ruins a romantic mood quite as much as already planning how you're going to break up).

But it didn't do bull. It didn't do anything, and the Old Man Yells At Cloud headline (when nothing happens) pops up

[Gnark]

#036 "International Community Comes Doorknocking", option 3 ("We give them a little humanitarian aid, they give us access to their Information Technology markets... it's win-win.")

Almost every industry increases... except Information Technology. Which drops.

[Venetoland]

Being against the Confederate flag lowers Civil Rights?! I guess I see the POV that racists have the right to be racist.

[Christian Democrats]

Being against the Confederate flag lowers Civil Rights?! I guess I see the POV that racists have the right to be racist.

Yeah, I raised this issue earlier.

Issue 464, Option 1 reduced civil rights on an anarchist puppet nation. I don't see how abstention from using a controversial flag "in any official capacity" reduces the civil rights of ordinary citizens. It's not as if there are any limitations on their use of the flag.

[British West Zuzunia]

#320 "Criminals To Vote?", option 2 (allow criminals to vote). No effects whatsoever. Old Man Yells At Cloud.

[EEC]

#308.3 has zero effect on economic freedom. Considering that you're rejecting business subsidies and public works in favor of privatizing ferries that is really unusual.

On the opposite of this, I had #308.3 privatize my entire state-owned industry, I find it a bit too extreme

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Option 2 of issue 303 also has no apparent effects.

[Eahland]

#509 "It Was Asbestos Times, It Was The Worst Of Times", option 2 (fund cleanup and medical research), among other more or less sensible effects... raises Religiousness? And while it increases Public Healthcare spending, it doesn't affect any sort of actual health or safety stat in any way.

(Tangentially, I notice that my rankings page is currently reporting that I'm 189,051st of 188,978 nations in the world in Health.)

((Also, "recent investigation"? I remember them having fits about the asbestos in the tiles when I was in junior high, and I'm in my 40s.))

[EEC]

307.1 doesnt drop taxes like it's suppose to.

[Greater Hunnia]

167.3, making dental care free by funding dentists increases Public Healthcare by 10% but it doesn't effect Healthiness at all. It also slightly decreases all industries and public transport for whatever reason.

By the way, I think I found a bug that stretches across pretty much all issues: whenever Civil Rights increase, Nudity and Recreational Drug Use also inevitably increase, even if both are strictly forbidden (for example, drug dealers are supposedly executed and there is a strict dress code in my nation. The reverse is also true, decreasing Civil Rights always result in a decrease of Nudity and Drug Use as well.

[British West Zuzunia]

#496 "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide", option 2. "Attempted suicide is punishable by public hanging," increases Scientific Advancement/decreases Primitiveness??

[Eahland]

#269 "Stop The Presses!", option 1 (let the free market take its course) has no effect on Economic Freedom, but increases Death Rate? I don't see anything in the other stats effects that might reasonably explain that as a secondary effect, and it makes no sense as a primary effect. Unless newspapers are counted as citizens.

[Logophilia Lyricalia]

167.3, making dental care free by funding dentists increases Public Healthcare by 10% but it doesn't effect Healthiness at all. It also slightly decreases all industries and public transport for whatever reason.

By the way, I think I found a bug that stretches across pretty much all issues: whenever Civil Rights increase, Nudity and Recreational Drug Use also inevitably increase, even if both are strictly forbidden (for example, drug dealers are supposedly executed and there is a strict dress code in my nation. The reverse is also true, decreasing Civil Rights always result in a decrease of Nudity and Drug Use as well.

Civil rights is, I believe, the closest thing to measuring Free Speech that the game has; so when punishing people for talking about breaking anti-drug or anti-nudity laws, or for making music videos or TV shows or films in which characters break them, you're also reducing the number of people who watch said films and think to themselves 'Hey, that naked dude just burned a J and didn't get arrested or struck by lightning - maybe I can too!'

Conversely, allowing art depicting things the government outlaws may tend to increase those things as people become curious, within limits, about them.

TL;dr I doubt it's a bug; that relation of stat changes makes sense to me.

[Greater Hunnia]

167.3, making dental care free by funding dentists increases Public Healthcare by 10% but it doesn't effect Healthiness at all. It also slightly decreases all industries and public transport for whatever reason.

By the way, I think I found a bug that stretches across pretty much all issues: whenever Civil Rights increase, Nudity and Recreational Drug Use also inevitably increase, even if both are strictly forbidden (for example, drug dealers are supposedly executed and there is a strict dress code in my nation. The reverse is also true, decreasing Civil Rights always result in a decrease of Nudity and Drug Use as well.

Civil rights is, I believe, the closest thing to measuring Free Speech that the game has; so when punishing people for talking about breaking anti-drug or anti-nudity laws, or for making music videos or TV shows or films in which characters break them, you're also reducing the number of people who watch said films and think to themselves 'Hey, that naked dude just burned a J and didn't get arrested or struck by lightning - maybe I can too!'

Conversely, allowing art depicting things the government outlaws may tend to increase those things as people become curious, within limits, about them.

TL;dr I doubt it's a bug; that relation of stat changes makes sense to me.

Your explaination is built around the assumption that Civil Rights measures free speech. Even if it did, your explaination is lacking IMO. But Civil Rights is not a measure of free speech in NS, Political Freedom is.

[North Americorp]

#265.2: To Bail Or Not To Bail?
'Thousands of former welfare recipients are in a revolutionary uproar as the rest of society is enjoying a hefty tax break.'

No increase in Wealth Gaps (and no decrease in Income of Poor)? That seems off.

[British West Zuzunia]

#508 "Ex-Cons Robbed Of Future", option 2 (deny ex-cons their right to privacy, allow discrimination against them) makes Civil Rights go up?!?

And despite tacitly endorsing a system where, per the issue, the commission of minor misdemeanors makes people unemployable, it makes Employment go up.

[Venetoland]

Reducing mining lowers environmental beauty?

[Gnark]

45 "Baseball League Steps Up To The Plate", option 2 (do not spend tax money on sporting events)... Freedom from Taxation goes down? But Taxation doesn't go up, so that's weird in a couple of ways.

[Drawkland]

Issue 443, Option 1, creating public works projects for jobs ... decreases my rudeness? By about 10 points, ~184 dropped to ~176. Why is this?

[Frenequesta]

Issue 443, Option 1, creating public works projects for jobs ... decreases my rudeness? By about 10 points, ~184 dropped to ~176. Why is this?

Well, it's welfare, in a way, and that tends to mean your population is a bit nicer, besides, all those public improvement projects (including beautifying parks) gives people more to smile about and less motivation to throw insults.

[Eahland]

#308 "Over, Under Or Through?", option 4 (do not expand transport links to the islands) makes Eco-Friendliness go down?

Also, Secularism up and Religiousness down? How does it have anything at all to do with those?

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Why does abolishing Inheritance Tax exterminate Tourism and Environmental Beauty? It took forever for me to recover it, and now it's all gone. Just look at my Tourism after the inheritance decision! My Environmental Beauty is even worse!

It doesn't make any sense!

-and why isn't this thread marked with the Sticky flag?!

[Almonaster Nuevo]

I just got Residency: Days 16,586.93 → 18,026.93 ^8.7%

18,000 days is nearly 50 years!

I presume that has nothing to do with the issue (Nazi sympathizers plan rally, so what gives?