[MEGATHREAD] Unusual Issue Effects Since New Update

[Leppikania]

Why did option 250.2 decrease Generic Beauracracy's freedom from taxation when the speaker in that option was suggesting a tax break?

…and why did option 314.4 increase Torture Tower's civil rights?

[Menta Lee-IL]

Issue #300: Trafficked Tots Trouble

Chose 2: 2. Joe Belt, the Chief of Police, winces and turns white. "That sounds rather... barbaric. Give us more funding, and we can set up a special department - the Child Catchers! We'll take children from those who procreate without passing the exam, and raise them to be perfect members of our police force... err... society."

Result: and the national Police Academies have dedicated infant wings

Effects? Decreased police funding and military spending.

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Issue #114: Wipe Out Graffiti? (I mentioned this earlier, reposting)

Chose: 1. "It's a disgrace!" declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, middle class and proud of it. "I can't even go downtown without seeing these hideous eyesores debasing the streets! We need to arrest the scumbags at the root of this, lock them up, and teach them a jolly good lesson! More policemen on the beat should do the ticket, even if it does require a slight augmentation in taxes!"

Effects? Decreased police funding.


SIGH.

[Luna Amore]

Issue #300: Trafficked Tots Trouble

Chose 2: 2. Joe Belt, the Chief of Police, winces and turns white. "That sounds rather... barbaric. Give us more funding, and we can set up a special department - the Child Catchers! We'll take children from those who procreate without passing the exam, and raise them to be perfect members of our police force... err... society."

Result: and the national Police Academies have dedicated infant wings

Effects? Decreased police funding and military spending.

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Issue #114: Wipe Out Graffiti? (I mentioned this earlier, reposting)

Chose: 1. "It's a disgrace!" declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, middle class and proud of it. "I can't even go downtown without seeing these hideous eyesores debasing the streets! We need to arrest the scumbags at the root of this, lock them up, and teach them a jolly good lesson! More policemen on the beat should do the ticket, even if it does require a slight augmentation in taxes!"

Effects? Decreased police funding.


SIGH.

Both definitely do not do that and I can't see what's throwing it off for your nation but I have a guess. This one might be better suited for [v].

[Eahland]

#84 "Compulsory Gun Ownership?", option 2 (legalize and encourage concealed carry): decreases Weaponization!

[Luna Amore]

#84 "Compulsory Gun Ownership?", option 2 (legalize and encourage concealed carry): decreases Weaponization!

For you, yes. You already allow a great deal of freedom concerning guns so the secondary stats shine through more for you (Crime: 117.47 → 116.85 0.53%). Even with that, it was a minor drop 102.53 → 102.14 0.38%.

Slightly less crime, slightly less weaponization.

[British West Zuzunia]

500.3, abolishing copyright has no effect on Culture or anything like that, and only a marginal effect on Book Publishing, but it drives Weaponization way down. What, are we eliminating software pirates' need to carry their cutlasses and flintlocks around?

[Luna Amore]

500.3, abolishing copyright has no effect on Culture or anything like that, and only a marginal effect on Book Publishing, but it drives Weaponization way down. What, are we eliminating software pirates' need to carry their cutlasses and flintlocks around?

Way down might be an exaggeration: Weapons Per Person 1.03 → 0.81 21.4%

[Willy Beamish]

Whoa. 490.1 (Long and Winding Halls) raised Weaponization by 818%.
From 0.6 weapons per person to 5.6. That's extreme.

Not that I don't like it, but how come? All I did was slash the government spending.

[Gnejs]

Whoa. 490.1 (Long and Winding Halls) raised Weaponization by 818%.
From 0.6 weapons per person to 5.6. That's extreme.

Not that I don't like it, but how come? All I did was slash the government spending.

I haven't checked the exact results for your nation, but it's probably due to an increase in crime (you did slash all type of government spending)

[Sotruenia]

Sotruenia answered issue #274: Brotherly Love - A Bit Too Close to Home?

Picking the answer that makes the government butt out of marriage completely makes civil rights fall for some unexplained reason.

[Sotruenia]

Sotruenia answered issue #054: Time To Put The Older Senators Out To Pasture?

Choosing to implement term limits lowers political freedom, which is frankly ridiculous.

[Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf]

Okay now, how does the result of 61.2 decrease every industry? Just because it says that everyone should have an equal opportunity to succeed or fail should NOT effect any industry negatively because due to logic it could go both ways. Can I get an explanation about this?

[Luna Amore]

Sotruenia answered issue #274: Brotherly Love - A Bit Too Close to Home?

Picking the answer that makes the government butt out of marriage completely makes civil rights fall for some unexplained reason.

You outlawed marriage.

Sotruenia answered issue #054: Time To Put The Older Senators Out To Pasture?

Choosing to implement term limits lowers political freedom, which is frankly ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous? Setting term limits restricts every citizen's right to run as much as they want. You are telling them what they can't do which is a big hint that it's going to hurt some sort of freedom.

[Luna Amore]

Okay now, how does the result of 61.2 decrease every industry? Just because it says that everyone should have an equal opportunity to succeed or fail should NOT effect any industry negatively because due to logic it could go both ways. Can I get an explanation about this?

This has been explained multiple times at this point.

Some of that labor force, capital, and mental energy will find its way elsewhere, which is why you notice rises in your industries. (This is the "quirk" Luna mentions.) It's not quite correct that your industries "skyrocketed," though, since they grew by an average of 1.8%.

Some movement of this kind always occurs between industries and government departments, so that a significant rise in any one is usually accompanied by a small but noticeable decrease in the others, and vice versa.

Your industries experienced a very minor contraction (down 0.06%) due to the process [v] described.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Issue Fifty Six extrerminated my Tourism and somehow made my people dumber.

It did not, however, decrease my Social Conservativism (greater economic freedoms), decrease my Business Subsidization (the literal definition of special interest subsidies), nor did it increase my Free Market Index.

I was hoping for a boost in my capitalism raitings, but all I did was exterminate my Tourism. Why?

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Why is it ridiculous? Setting term limits restricts every citizen's right to run as much as they want. You are telling them what they can't do which is a big hint that it's going to hurt some sort of freedom.

It also prevents incumbants from becoming permanent, and therefore it decreases corruption. It should INCREASE Political Freedom.

[Luna Amore]

Why is it ridiculous? Setting term limits restricts every citizen's right to run as much as they want. You are telling them what they can't do which is a big hint that it's going to hurt some sort of freedom.

It also prevents incumbants from becoming permanent, and therefore it decreases corruption. It should INCREASE Political Freedom.

Corruption =/= political freedom.

It limits what the citizens can do politically both by running and voting. It decreases political freedom.

[Luna Amore]

my Free Market Index

Should it? Who is granted more economic freedom by that option?

Social Conservativism (greater economic freedoms)

Social conservatism does not mean greater economic freedoms. Two different things.

decrease my Business Subsidization (the literal definition of special interest subsidies)

It did: Gilded Widget Scale -15.49 → -16.12 4.1%

I was hoping for a boost in my capitalism raitings, but all I did was exterminate my Tourism. Why?

That is quite the drop, I'll have to look into that.

[Trotterdam]

Presumably, most of those tourists had been coming to your nation to listen to poetry.

[Luna Amore]

I was hoping for a boost in my capitalism raitings, but all I did was exterminate my Tourism. Why?

That is quite the drop, I'll have to look into that.

There is a flaw in the underlying calculations that will need to be fixed. [v] is looking into it.

[Viikate]

375.2: "Rainbows have been replaced by gloomy rain clouds as a result of the mass burning of leprechauns"

Despite the effect line, that didn't to anything to the Weather stat.

[Aifur]

Wedlock Worries (165.2): "Children are regularly married to each other to secure business deals between families."

Youth Rebelliousness DOWN by 200%? That makes no sense at all.
Generally, it's the opposite: arranged marriages tend to make youth rebel against their parents. Think Romeo and Juliet, or Fiddler on the Roof.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Wedlock Worries (165.2): "Children are regularly married to each other to secure business deals between families."

Youth Rebelliousness DOWN by 200%? That makes no sense at all.
Generally, it's the opposite: arranged marriages tend to make youth rebel against their parents. Think Romeo and Juliet, or Fiddler on the Roof.

When such children do rebel, it's much more dramatic to be sure. But in societies where children are raised from birth to consider arranged marriages and childhood betrothal as normal, there's going to be a lot less youth rebelliousness in the aggregate. Did your murder rate rise a tiny bit along with this, perhaps? While general crime dropped, for the same reasons as youth rebelliousness? If so, that's exactly what I'd expect.

[Luna Amore]

Wedlock Worries (165.2): "Children are regularly married to each other to secure business deals between families."

Youth Rebelliousness DOWN by 200%? That makes no sense at all.
Generally, it's the opposite: arranged marriages tend to make youth rebel against their parents. Think Romeo and Juliet, or Fiddler on the Roof.

Youth Rebelliousness down -1.00 → -3.00 200%

It sounds more dramatic than it actually is. Kinda like Romeo and Juliet.

[Aifur]

Youth Rebelliousness down -1.00 → -3.00 200%

It sounds more dramatic than it actually is. Kinda like Romeo and Juliet.

Top 10% is in >6 range, and bottom 10% in <-9 range. So two points is a considerable drop in the rankings.

When such children do rebel, it's much more dramatic to be sure. But in societies where children are raised from birth to consider arranged marriages and childhood betrothal as normal, there's going to be a lot less youth rebelliousness in the aggregate. Did your murder rate rise a tiny bit along with this, perhaps? While general crime dropped, for the same reasons as youth rebelliousness? If so, that's exactly what I'd expect.

That doesn't ring true, but perhaps I've read too much Victorian romance fiction.
The other major changes were: Authoritarianism up (makes sense), Charmlessness down (?), Compliance up by a lot, Crime down, all industries up, Intelligence down, and Weaponization down.