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[ACCEPTED] Fubar vs Taxis

Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:58 pm

Housekeeping:before we start, some housekeeping. I am peerfectly aware of how to spell Uber,, but chose this way to avoid copyright
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Title:
Fubar vs Taxis

Decription:
A huge dispute has broken out between ride-sharing websites such as Fubar and taxi drivers, with the taxis claiming that they're practicing unfair practices and some even going as far as saying it is anti-competitive behaviour. There is now a call to ban them. 

Validity:
Not valid for nations with out cars

Options
[option] "They're taking away all our business!" Says a spokesperson of the Taxis Driver Assosiation of @@NAME@@ "They charge cheap fares and that's because they don't have to pay registration, special number plates, special insurance etc. This is unfair. They do what we do, but with half the costs that we pay. I say ban all ridesharing!"
[effect] It is a criminal offense for mothers to drive their children to school as it is "hurting the taxi industry"
[stats] Don't know

[option] "Another taxi starts driving people around @@CAPITAL@@, and there's no problem with that, I do it, I need to get banned!" says Fubar driver @@RANDOMNMANE@@ "People are sick of taxis; they have to wave their hands up and down like lunatics in order to get one, or spend three hours on call waiting. Not to mention Fubar is also a chaper price.With Fubar, a driver is avaliable fairly quickly without embarrassing yourself! Maybe you could also sign up to be an Fubar driver, @@LEADER@@, after all, you could use the few extra @@CURRENCY@@
[effect] @@LEADER@@ is unpopular amoungst taxi drivers, as @@LEADER@@ drives family members around on Sundays
[stats] Don't know


[option] "None of this would be a problem if we didn't have cars in the first place, those smelly, dangerous, horrific blights on our roads" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a hippie, wheeling in a bike that seemed to be made mostly by weaving, "We should go back to the days when everything was natural! Everything was better in the good old days, back when we didn't have to bother about exhausts and fumes and all that horrific stuff so we should mandate using more eco-friendly ways, not this Fubar or taxi junk. Take my bike for instance!"
[effect]There are common debates on the best ways to weave a bike, and suggestions that you could weave a car, which are never taken seriously.
[stats] Don't know

[option]You're all nuts!" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, the CEO of a car manufacturing company "the real issue is public transit. People are sick of sharing their space with lowerclass strangers and having to pay taxes in the form of subsidies for that "privlage". If we were to ban public transit, taxes would be lowered and no more sitting next to creppy strangers. Oh and there will be enough demand for both taxis and Fubar, so we won't need to worry. Not to mention that my shareholders are your voters. Everyone's a winner-well except the environmental lobby, but don't you think we've heard enough from them?
[effect] The money saved from public transport subsidies is nowhere near enough to pay for the increased in health care spending due to the increased cases of asthma
[stats] Taxes decrease, automobile manufacturing increases, pollution increases, environment decreases, health decreases, health care spending increases, don't know what else


Title:
Ubar vs Taxis

Decription:
A huge dispute has broken out between ride-sharing websites such as Ubar and taxi drivers, with the taxis claiming that they're practicing unfair practices and some even going as far as saying it is anti-competitive behaviour. There is now a call to ban them.

Validity:
Not valid for nations with out cars

Options
[option] "They're taking away all our business!" Says spokesperson of the Taxis Drivers Assosiation of @@NAME@@ "They charge cheap fares and that's because they don't have to pay registration, special number plates, special insurance etc. This is unfair. They do what we do, but with half the costs that we pay. I say ban all ridesharing!"
[effect]Ride Sharing Websites have been banned
[stats] Don't know

[option] "Another taxi starts driving people around @@CAPITAL@@, and there's no problem with that, I do it, I need to get banned!" says Ubar driver @@RANDOMNMANE@@ "People are sick of taxis; they're expensive, they're dirty and the driver can't speak our language. It's about time we had competition to the taxi industry!"
[effect]Taxi drivers barely manage to make ends meet thanks to ride sharing
[stats] Don't know

[option] "None of this would be a problem if we didn't have cars in the first place" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a hippie, "they smell, they're dangerous, they pollute and we just found another of many reasons to ban them!"
[effect]Cars are banned
[stats] Don't know
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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:41 pm

The effect line of option 1 was a golden opportunity for something like "mothers are arrested for 'ride-sharing' with their kids on the way to school." Afterall, it does say all ride-sharing. It should also be "a spokesman", not just simply "spokesman".

Option 2 was a bit sparse, and the biggest complaint I've seen against taxis is that they either take forever to answer your call (especially in rural areas!), or you need to stand around waving like a loony at busy streets hoping one picks you up. Uber supporters always cite the connectivity involved, and how quick the cars come for you, so I personally would have the second option speaker mention those.

There are plenty of issues that have cars banned already, but I had thought up of something else even more wacky that suits this issue: ban public transport. If there are no busses or trains, then everyone will have to use either Ubar or taxis (or cars), hence settling the debate once and for all due to increased demand.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:11 am

Ubar is OK. You can't use Uber or else it'll br metagaming. They can surely reference real-life things, but use a different name. Ubar is fine.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:05 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:The effect line of option 1 was a golden opportunity for something like "mothers are arrested for 'ride-sharing' with their kids on the way to school." Afterall, it does say all ride-sharing. It should also be "a spokesman", not just simply "spokesman".

Option 2 was a bit sparse, and the biggest complaint I've seen against taxis is that they either take forever to answer your call (especially in rural areas!), or you need to stand around waving like a loony at busy streets hoping one picks you up. Uber supporters always cite the connectivity involved, and how quick the cars come for you, so I personally would have the second option speaker mention those.

There are plenty of issues that have cars banned already, but I had thought up of something else even more wacky that suits this issue: ban public transport. If there are no busses or trains, then everyone will have to use either Ubar or taxis (or cars), hence settling the debate once and for all due to increased demand.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:06 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:Ubar is OK. You can't use Uber or else it'll br metagaming. They can surely reference real-life things, but use a different name. Ubar is fine.

Issues are supposed to be about what happens in real life, aren't they
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Australian Republic wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Ubar is OK. You can't use Uber or else it'll br metagaming. They can surely reference real-life things, but use a different name. Ubar is fine.

Issues are supposed to be about what happens in real life, aren't they

It doesn't have to be, but I assume that it would be good to have real life issues.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:56 am

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:The effect line of option 1 was a golden opportunity for something like "mothers are arrested for 'ride-sharing' with their kids on the way to school." Afterall, it does say all ride-sharing. It should also be "a spokesman", not just simply "spokesman".

Option 2 was a bit sparse, and the biggest complaint I've seen against taxis is that they either take forever to answer your call (especially in rural areas!), or you need to stand around waving like a loony at busy streets hoping one picks you up. Uber supporters always cite the connectivity involved, and how quick the cars come for you, so I personally would have the second option speaker mention those.

There are plenty of issues that have cars banned already, but I had thought up of something else even more wacky that suits this issue: ban public transport. If there are no busses or trains, then everyone will have to use either Ubar or taxis (or cars), hence settling the debate once and for all due to increased demand.

A forth option is a brilliant idea
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:16 am

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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:53 am

In option 2, is 'farely' a pun or a misspelling of 'fairly'?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:40 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:In option 2, is 'farely' a pun or a misspelling of 'fairly'?

Mispelt, but the pun works too! :D
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:50 pm

I added a new stat to option four
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Australian Republic wrote:I added a new stat to option four


Looking forward to seeing what the other ones are... although stats don't really matter.

I still think that the effect line for option 1 is a little dull. The first option could have something like "hitchhikers have been arrested on the grounds that they are sharing rides unfairly", or "the taxi companies are lobbying the government to ban any car with more than 1 seat for personal use".

I wonder if option 2 could go further, like forcing every taxi driver onto a publically available database like all the Ubar drivers are. Or maybe the driver could ask @@LEADER@@ to sign up for the service. Either way, I feel it ends a little bit abruptly.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:24 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:I added a new stat to option four


Looking forward to seeing what the other ones are... although stats don't really matter.

I still think that the effect line for option 1 is a little dull. The first option could have something like "hitchhikers have been arrested on the grounds that they are sharing rides unfairly", or "the taxi companies are lobbying the government to ban any car with more than 1 seat for personal use".

I wonder if option 2 could go further, like forcing every taxi driver onto a publically available database like all the Ubar drivers are. Or maybe the driver could ask @@LEADER@@ to sign up for the service. Either way, I feel it ends a little bit abruptly.

How about now?
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Australian Republic wrote:
Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:
Looking forward to seeing what the other ones are... although stats don't really matter.

I still think that the effect line for option 1 is a little dull. The first option could have something like "hitchhikers have been arrested on the grounds that they are sharing rides unfairly", or "the taxi companies are lobbying the government to ban any car with more than 1 seat for personal use".

I wonder if option 2 could go further, like forcing every taxi driver onto a publically available database like all the Ubar drivers are. Or maybe the driver could ask @@LEADER@@ to sign up for the service. Either way, I feel it ends a little bit abruptly.

How about now?


I wasn't expecting having Ubar sign up @@LADER@@ as a driver, but that effect line was absolutely hilarious!

In my opinion, I think this is good to go, but I'm not very eagle-eyed so maybe there's stuff I've missed.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:27 pm

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If I had to be picky, I'd say the other options need to have their stats added. Personally, I don't bother with them, but you filled it out for the fourth option, so why not the others?

Also, for the fourth option's stats, wouldn't there be a massive decrease in public transport spending, as well as a decrease in the economy as a whole (even if automobile manufacturing as a specific industry increases)?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:46 pm

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:If I had to be picky, I'd say the other options need to have their stats added. Personally, I don't bother with them, but you filled it out for the fourth option, so why not the others?

Also, for the fourth option's stats, wouldn't there be a massive decrease in public transport spending, as well as a decrease in the economy as a whole (even if automobile manufacturing as a specific industry increases)?

We were told not worry about stats as the editors do this. Now, as for why that specific option, it's the ONLY one I could think of stats for
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Australian Republic wrote:We were told not worry about stats as the editors do this.

Stats are optional, but we haven't told people to leave them off. Some people have ideas for stats. Even if they're entirely irrelevant, they can help an Issue Editor (as well as other players) understand the intent of the issue and options.

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Frisbeeteria wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:We were told not worry about stats as the editors do this.

Stats are optional, but we haven't told people to leave them off. Some people have ideas for stats. Even if they're entirely irrelevant, they can help an Issue Editor (as well as other players) understand the intent of the issue and options.


So on the whole, would you recommend people add them or not?

As I said before, the notice about the stats here is pretty much because I've run out of things to critique in this issue. If you (Australian Republic) feel like the stats are not necessary, then I'll be happy to see this be submitted.
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Postby Singapore no2 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:40 am

Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:Stats are optional, but we haven't told people to leave them off. Some people have ideas for stats. Even if they're entirely irrelevant, they can help an Issue Editor (as well as other players) understand the intent of the issue and options.


So on the whole, would you recommend people add them or not?

As I said before, the notice about the stats here is pretty much because I've run out of things to critique in this issue. If you (Australian Republic) feel like the stats are not necessary, then I'll be happy to see this be submitted.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:54 am

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Just some spell checking before it goes off, it's really good.
Australian Republic wrote:CURRENT DRAFT
Title:
Ubar vs Taxis

Decription:
A huge dispute has broken out between ride-sharing websites such as Ubar and taxi drivers, with the taxis claiming that they're practicing unfair practices and some even going as far as saying it is anti-competitive behaviour. There is now a call to ban them. 

Validity:
Not valid for nations with out cars

Options
[option] "They're taking away all our business!" Says a spokesperson of the Taxis Drivers Association of @@NAME@@ "They charge cheap fares and that's because they don't have to pay registration, special number plates, special insurance etc. This is unfair. They do what we do, but with half the costs that we pay. I say ban all ridesharing!"
[effect] It is a criminal offense for mothers to drive their children to school as it is "hurting the taxi industry"
[stats] Don't know Increase in economy, possible reduction in civil rights, increase in authoritarianism

[option] "Another taxi starts driving people around @@CAPITAL@@, and there's no problem with that, I do it, I need to get banned!" says Ubar driver @@RANDOMNMANE@@ "People are sick of taxis; they have to wave their hands up and down like lunatics in order to get one, or spend three hours on call waiting. Not to mention Ubar is also a chaper price.With Ubar, a driver is avaliable fairly quickly without embarrassing yourself! Maybe you could also sign up to be an Ubar driver, @@LEADER@@, after all, you could use the few extra @@CURRENCY@@
[effect] @@LEADER@@ is unpopular amoungst taxi drivers, as @@LEADER@@ drives family members around on Sundays
[stats] Don't knowIncrease in inclusiveness maybe? Possible increase in pro-market

[option] "None of this would be a problem if we didn't have cars in the first place" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a hippie, "They smell, they're dangerous, they pollute and we just found another of many reasons to ban them!"
[effect]Cars are banned
[stats] Don't know Increased environmentalism, possibly increased environmental beauty. Definitely a decrease in the automotive vehicle industry, which might translate to a drop in economy.
I think this could do with a little more expansion, but it might just be me.

[option]You're all nuts!" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, the CEO of a car manufacturing company "the real issue is public transit. People are sick of sharing their space with lower class strangers and having to pay taxes in the form of subsidies for that "privilege". If we were to ban public transit, taxes would be lowered and no more sitting next to creppy strangers. Oh and there will be enough demand for both taxis and Ubar, so we won't need to worry. Not to mention that my shareholders are your voters. Everyone's a winner-well except the environmental lobby, but don't you think we've heard enough from them?
[effect] The money saved from public transport subsidies is nowhere near enough to pay for the increased in health care spending due to the increased cases of asthma
[stats] Taxes decrease, automobile manufacturing increases, pollution increases, environment decreases, health decreases, health care spending increases, don't know what else

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:46 am

Just a stylistic quibble: "Ubar" is clearly a very slight misspelling that people will see is there to avoid the most obvious trademark and metagaming concerns. But there's another opportunity for a pun here. Call the service Fubar or Goober or something - it's still obviously Uber, but with a funnier name.

This is clearly kind of a nitpick, but I feel NS issues are best when their jokes-per-paragraph count is highest. Max that baby out!

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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:38 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Just a stylistic quibble: "Ubar" is clearly a very slight misspelling that people will see is there to avoid the most obvious trademark and metagaming concerns. But there's another opportunity for a pun here. Call the service Fubar or Goober or something - it's still obviously Uber, but with a funnier name.


That's actually a really good idea. Ubar is good too, but I like Fubar a lot.
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