by Marcuslandia » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:46 pm
by Erastide » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:12 am
by Marcuslandia » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:58 am
Erastide wrote:I'd say it's probably a good thing that your government doesn't decide every single issue that comes its way. Micromanagement requires more government.
by Palpatinist Coruscant » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:09 pm
Marcuslandia wrote:3) Choices that expand the tax base by bringing in additional taxpayers -- e.g., taxing the formerly exempt Church, or closing loopholes exploited by the wealthy -- increases EVERYBODY'S base tax rate.
by Marcuslandia » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:40 pm
Palpatinist Coruscant wrote:Marcuslandia wrote:3) Choices that expand the tax base by bringing in additional taxpayers -- e.g., taxing the formerly exempt Church, or closing loopholes exploited by the wealthy -- increases EVERYBODY'S base tax rate.
Of course the average tax rate will go up if you force another group to pay more, since more taxes are now being collected. Having one group taxed more will always factor into a nation's average tax rate, since it's not part of an isolated tax system.
by Naivetry » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:13 am
Marcuslandia wrote:Erastide wrote:I'd say it's probably a good thing that your government doesn't decide every single issue that comes its way. Micromanagement requires more government.
Yeah, but dismissing 7 out of 10? Heck there is only 50 or so (not nearly that many, actually) issues that get offered up. I find myself only really dealing with the same <10 issues. The rest are a waste of my time (unless I was particularly self-destructive).
by Der Teutoniker » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:18 am
Marcuslandia wrote:Erastide wrote:I'd say it's probably a good thing that your government doesn't decide every single issue that comes its way. Micromanagement requires more government.
Yeah, but dismissing 7 out of 10? Heck there is only 50 or so (not nearly that many, actually) issues that get offered up. I find myself only really dealing with the same <10 issues. The rest are a waste of my time (unless I was particularly self-destructive).
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by TannerFrankLand » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:22 am
Marcuslandia wrote:Palpatinist Coruscant wrote:Marcuslandia wrote:3) Choices that expand the tax base by bringing in additional taxpayers -- e.g., taxing the formerly exempt Church, or closing loopholes exploited by the wealthy -- increases EVERYBODY'S base tax rate.
Of course the average tax rate will go up if you force another group to pay more, since more taxes are now being collected. Having one group taxed more will always factor into a nation's average tax rate, since it's not part of an isolated tax system.
But not only is the total of collected taxes increasing (the numerator), the number of taxpayers (the denominator) is also increasing.
Example: 90 people pay $900. The cost per is $10. Ten more people are added which add another $100. You have 100 people paying $1000, for a cost per of $10. No per capita change.
There would undoubtedly be a fluctuation, and that actually could go in either direction, but generally the net per capita change would be quite small. Taking the tax the Church issue, I don't care how much you get out of all of those thousands of churches, it is NOT going to raise EVERYBODY's taxes by 2%. (Or was it 4%? Can't remember.)
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by Marcuslandia » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:19 am
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by Minions Stadium » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:54 pm
by Marcuslandia » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:05 pm
Minions Stadium wrote:for issue(s) I don't want to deal with, I go ahead and dismiss them. I don't really like it when certain nation(s)allow their citizens to be nude in public, shouldn't they be busted for indecent exposure?
by Bears Armed » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:49 am
Marcuslandia wrote:Palpatinist Coruscant wrote:Marcuslandia wrote:3) Choices that expand the tax base by bringing in additional taxpayers -- e.g., taxing the formerly exempt Church, or closing loopholes exploited by the wealthy -- increases EVERYBODY'S base tax rate.
Of course the average tax rate will go up if you force another group to pay more, since more taxes are now being collected. Having one group taxed more will always factor into a nation's average tax rate, since it's not part of an isolated tax system.
But not only is the total of collected taxes increasing (the numerator), the number of taxpayers (the denominator) is also increasing.
Example: 90 people pay $900. The cost per is $10. Ten more people are added which add another $100. You have 100 people paying $1000, for a cost per of $10. No per capita change.
There would undoubtedly be a fluctuation, and that actually could go in either direction, but generally the net per capita change would be quite small. Taking the tax the Church issue, I don't care how much you get out of all of those thousands of churches, it is NOT going to raise EVERYBODY's taxes by 2%. (Or was it 4%? Can't remember.)
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