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Ze Destroyers wrote:I'v just got an issue with the word misogyny, seeing as this word has become somewhat of a hate speech towards men term.

What?

I just edited this draft again, and I think it is (almost?) ready for submission. Any final thoughts?

On option 2,wwhich do civil rights decrease?

Deemos2 wrote:On option 2,wwhich do civil rights decrease?

The game considers abortion a personal freedom. Thus, allowing protests that impede access to abortion clinics leads to a slight decrease in the civil rights rating but also a moderate increase in the political freedoms rating (more freedom of expression).

Nations that already have legalized abortion must choose how they want to balance "abortion rights" and the rights of protesters.

I think you should submit it.

Christian Democrats wrote:

Name

Abortion Protests Out of Hand?

Description

Following several reports from internet news outlets that pro-life protesters have been harassing pregnant women seeking abortions, the Womyn's I've never actually seen this word used off NS, but this might be my limited experience. Liberation League has pushed for a bill in Parliament that it says would protect access to clinics.

Validity

Valid only for nations with legalized abortion (see Issue #136: Options 1 & 4, Issue #183: Option 1).

Options

[option]"Passing this bill would be an important step in advancing abortion rights," says pro-choice activist @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@. "The fact of the matter is that these protesters are obstructing women as they try to enter clinics. Double space hereWhen someone wants an abortion, the law ought to be on her side. Making abortion legal was a good first step, but we need to go further to secure women's safety. Anti-abortion activists ought to be required to stand in designated areas at least 25 meters NS issues are written in Queen's English (because Barry is Australian), so metres. But I may be wrong. away from the clinics they're protesting."
[effect]police escort anti-abortion activists to free speech cages if they try to express their views
[stats]civil rights slightly increase, political freedoms decrease, law & order spending slightly increases

[option]"What about the right to free speech?!" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, lawyer for the pro-life activists. "These are public spaces, and my clients should have the liberty to get their views across. You might disagree with their opinion, but it would be draconian for the government to prohibit them from telling these women the truth about the procedure they are getting."
[effect]teenagers looking for free condoms can't enter health clinics without being bombarded with two dozen anti-abortion pamphlets
[stats]civil rights slightly decrease, political freedoms increase

[option]"The truth is that these abortion mills are killing thousands of children every year," cries @@RANDOMNAME@@, a local minister. "For the sake of human rights and legal equality, the government must stand up for the unborn and ban this immoral practice immediately."
[effect]the airline industry is booming as pregnant women book tickets for "weekend trips" overseas
[stats]civil rights decrease, social conservatism significantly increases, religiosity slightly increases, economy increases, wealth gap slightly increases, law & order spending increases, crime slightly increases, healthcare spending slightly decreases, education spending slightly increases

[option]"Shut your mouth, you stupid fundie!" screams militant antitheist Perhaps a confusing term - also one that I've found few people use to self-identify @@RANDOMNAME@@. "All these wackos are doing is peddling their outdated misogyny, and I'm damn tired of it. The only way we'll make any real social progress is to put a stop to their hatemongering entirely. I insist that the whole anti-abortion movement be outlawed with stiff penalties for these anti-choice advocates." Somehow, this seems more reasonable to me now than it did before. Perhaps I was in a bad mood.
[effect]preachers and little old ladies disappear from their homes at night and are never heard from again
[stats]civil rights decrease, political freedoms significantly decrease, law & order spending increases, social conservatism decreases, religiosity decreases, disappearance increases as a cause of death

Comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, like it.

Again, "Womyn" is a thing. It might just be an American feminist thing, but it does exist, and the word is totally appropriate for use here.

Also, I've described myself as an antitheist in my more angry youth, but admittedly, I've never heard that one anywhere else :p

Personally I think this is a pretty interesting issue

My only complaint is absolutely miniscule. Would you be willing to changes "25 metres" to "25 paces" or "a certain distance" or something like that, just for the consistency of not assuming every nation uses metric units?

I also don't really understand why banning abortion increases education spending automatically (because more children are born...?).

The Dark Star Republic wrote:My only complaint is absolutely miniscule. Would you be willing to changes "25 metres" to "25 paces" or "a certain distance" or something like that, just for the consistency of not assuming every nation uses metric units?

If the author wants to keep "metres" that's fine as we can set the validity so only nations with the metric system will get it (provided they answered issues in line with getting rid of the metric system, of course).

Eireann Fae wrote:Again, "Womyn" is a thing. It might just be an American feminist thing, but it does exist, and the word is totally appropriate for use here.

No, I know - I just, as someone who keeps at least a small tab on British feminism, have never really heard the word used sincerely.

Panageadom wrote:

Eireann Fae wrote:Again, "Womyn" is a thing. It might just be an American feminist thing, but it does exist, and the word is totally appropriate for use here.

No, I know - I just, as someone who keeps at least a small tab on British feminism, have never really heard the word used sincerely.

It's used a lot in university feminist groups.

But, this is probably getting off-topic...

Sanctaria wrote:

The Dark Star Republic wrote:My only complaint is absolutely miniscule. Would you be willing to changes "25 metres" to "25 paces" or "a certain distance" or something like that, just for the consistency of not assuming every nation uses metric units?

If the author wants to keep "metres" that's fine as we can set the validity so only nations with the metric system will get it (provided they answered issues in line with getting rid of the metric system, of course).

Thanks for the clarification. Not a big issue anyway, as I said.

The Dark Star Republic wrote:

Sanctaria wrote:If the author wants to keep "metres" that's fine as we can set the validity so only nations with the metric system will get it (provided they answered issues in line with getting rid of the metric system, of course).

Thanks for the clarification. Not a big issue anyway, as I said.

My own personal preference would be for the author to edit, however, because that means the pool of nations that would get it would be larger than if we had to apply the validity.

The Dark Star Republic wrote:I also don't really understand why banning abortion increases education spending automatically (because more children are born...?).

Yes. More births = more schoolchildren = more education spending.

Sanctaria wrote:

The Dark Star Republic wrote:My only complaint is absolutely miniscule. Would you be willing to changes "25 metres" to "25 paces" or "a certain distance" or something like that, just for the consistency of not assuming every nation uses metric units?

If the author wants to keep "metres" that's fine as we can set the validity so only nations with the metric system will get it (provided they answered issues in line with getting rid of the metric system, of course).

I'm willing to change that part of the issue. Maybe, it could say something like this:

"Anti-abortion activists ought to be required to stand in designated areas far away from the clinics they're protesting."

Christian Democrats wrote:I'm willing to change that part of the issue. Maybe, it could say something like this:

"Anti-abortion activists ought to be required to stand in designated areas far away from the clinics they're protesting."

I like that wording.

Overall, I think this is a very good issue. Good luck!

The Dark Star Republic wrote:

Christian Democrats wrote:I'm willing to change that part of the issue. Maybe, it could say something like this:

"Anti-abortion activists ought to be required to stand in designated areas far away from the clinics they're protesting."

I like that wording.

Overall, I think this is a very good issue. Good luck!

Thanks.

I've made the change, and I'll leave this thread open for a few more days to see if anybody has any final suggestions before I submit this.

Thank you!

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Panageadom wrote:NS issues are written in Queen's English (because Barry is Australian), so metres. But I may be wrong.

Total side issue here, sorry, and nothing at all to do with the issue that's been submitted, but both British (Queen's) and American English are used.

To be quite honest it depends on the editor; typically myself and Sedge use British English, while Luna and Lenyo would use American English. Actually, since we take out some parts of issues and leave other bits in during the process, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few issues out there that change which English is used several times throughout the text.

Sanctaria wrote:

Panageadom wrote:NS issues are written in Queen's English (because Barry is Australian), so metres. But I may be wrong.

Total side issue here, sorry, and nothing at all to do with the issue that's been submitted, but both British (Queen's) and American English are used.

To be quite honest it depends on the editor; typically myself and Sedge use British English, while Luna and Lenyo would use American English. Actually, since we take out some parts of issues and leave other bits in during the process, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few issues out there that change which English is used several times throughout the text.

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Sanctaria wrote:

Panageadom wrote:NS issues are written in Queen's English (because Barry is Australian), so metres. But I may be wrong.

Total side issue here, sorry, and nothing at all to do with the issue that's been submitted, but both British (Queen's) and American English are used.

To be quite honest it depends on the editor; typically myself and Sedge use British English, while Luna and Lenyo would use American English. Actually, since we take out some parts of issues and leave other bits in during the process, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few issues out there that change which English is used several times throughout the text.

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