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Postby Minskiev » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:42 pm

Khomney wrote:How many issues are there about terrorists/other international enemies using citizens as negotiating tools? (if any)


Heh. A lot, although I think possibly the last one was, what, 700 issues ago? I know 656 was one, I’ll provide a list later.

Also, anyone know the deity for Yellowism? Like the “Thank Violet” counterpart, not the Grand Poobah counterpart, as that’s the Great Advisor, I believe.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:45 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:I was wondering whether Poland's LGBT-free zones has already been worked into an issue? There are of course several issues on restrictions on homosexuality, but is there one where several regions of a country declared themselves regions free of LGBT ideology?

No, I can't think of an issue like that in the base. That should be an interesting issue.
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Postby Minskiev » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:04 pm

Alright, it’s the Yellow One.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:15 am

Minskiev wrote:Not too sure what you’re trying to say, but I came here for a different reason.

I’m thinking of an issue where people find out that a box of crayons doesn’t include some colors and is thus racist, but there’s a few things.

For example, what is the NationStates version of Twitter? Ah, found it. Twitcher.


Inspired by these, perhaps?

http://www.crayola.co.uk/worldcolors?ut ... =/GeoPopup

Anyway, it seems unlikely that a pack of crayons could be accused of being racist for not including every skintone, because that's not an expected function of crayons. A box of 4 crayons with red, yellow, blue and green doesn't cover ANY skintone.

And for markets where covering different skintones IS expected (for example, in Cosmetics), market forces tend to react and create that diversity all by themselves, as any group of customers with money to spend is going to find a product is created to meet that demand.
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Postby Minskiev » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:06 am

No, I wasn’t.

Well it wasn’t only on race, for example the exclusion of blue-green from the 12-pack would be sending anti-environment messages.

And for the last section, if the premise was to be reworked as makeup, it’d be that in some standard 12-color makeup palette made by a government-owned company, it excluded a few colors or tones. Although I’m not sure how much verisimilitude it’d have to be addressed at a national level. The issue’s currently abandoned, however.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:40 am

Minskiev wrote:Well it wasn’t only on race, for example the exclusion of blue-green from the 12-pack would be sending anti-environment messages.
It is impossible to include every color someone might possibly want to use in a 12-pack.

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Postby Cretox State » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:11 am

Minskiev wrote:No, I wasn’t.

Well it wasn’t only on race, for example the exclusion of blue-green from the 12-pack would be sending anti-environment messages.

And for the last section, if the premise was to be reworked as makeup, it’d be that in some standard 12-color makeup palette made by a government-owned company, it excluded a few colors or tones. Although I’m not sure how much verisimilitude it’d have to be addressed at a national level. The issue’s currently abandoned, however.

If you want to do this, I highly recommend going with a premise about ridiculous political correctness. Talking about how crayons or blackboards represent racism is not going to go over well, in my opinion.
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:52 am

Daarwyrth wrote:I was wondering whether Poland's LGBT-free zones has already been worked into an issue? There are of course several issues on restrictions on homosexuality, but is there one where several regions of a country declared themselves regions free of LGBT ideology?


NGL I actually really like this idea as an issue. You thinking of working on it? Cause I'd definitely take a gander at your draft should you make one. :)
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Postby Minskiev » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:54 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Minskiev wrote:Well it wasn’t only on race, for example the exclusion of blue-green from the 12-pack would be sending anti-environment messages.
It is impossible to include every color someone might possibly want to use in a 12-pack.


That’s why the premise is ridiculous.

But then again, it also has no verisimilitude.

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Minskiev wrote:No, I wasn’t.

Well it wasn’t only on race, for example the exclusion of blue-green from the 12-pack would be sending anti-environment messages.

And for the last section, if the premise was to be reworked as makeup, it’d be that in some standard 12-color makeup palette made by a government-owned company, it excluded a few colors or tones. Although I’m not sure how much verisimilitude it’d have to be addressed at a national level. The issue’s currently abandoned, however.

If you want to do this, I highly recommend going with a premise about ridiculous political correctness. Talking about how crayons or blackboards represent racism is not going to go over well, in my opinion.


Eh, I’ll maybe give a shot at that.
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:01 am

I certainly tried something like that, I believe with Chan. Course, it was less focused on excessive political correctness,
and more about excessive rights to a select minority at the expense of the majority, which of course is highly controversial so it was dropped.

But I do think excessive political correctness could be a fun issue. :P
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Postby Golgothastan » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:39 pm

Are there any issues about...

Restrictive covenants
Joint enterprise laws
Minority gun owners

Search isn't turning up much but the forum search isn't always great at picking up alternative spellings.

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:31 pm

If you don't mind me asking, which issue was the most recently published on the 28th of November 2019? (and also, were any issues published in the week following that day)

I know the most recent issue for that date is somewhere in the 1290-1320 range (based on publication dates for issues I've written), but a specific number would be great. I'm trying to create some interestingly specific card collections based on S2's start time (stuff like "most recent issue published").
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Postby Electrum » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:01 pm

Golgothastan wrote:Are there any issues about...

Restrictive covenants
Joint enterprise laws
Minority gun owners

Search isn't turning up much but the forum search isn't always great at picking up alternative spellings.


I'm certain that it's no for the first two (I've been thinking about writing one on joint enterprise but can't think of a premise). Not sure about the last.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:14 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:If you don't mind me asking, which issue was the most recently published on the 28th of November 2019? (and also, were any issues published in the week following that day)

I know the most recent issue for that date is somewhere in the 1290-1320 range (based on publication dates for issues I've written), but a specific number would be great. I'm trying to create some interestingly specific card collections based on S2's start time (stuff like "most recent issue published").

1296 was published on the 29th November 2019.
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Postby Frieden-und Freudenland » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:33 am

Is there an issue where

1) drugs are legal in @@NAME@@
2) indigenous people in a certain region of @@NAME@@ have been cultivating a plant (which can be refined into a potent drug) for centuries
3) another anti-drug country (e.g., United Federation) puts pressure on @@NAME@@ to eradicate their drug production

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Postby Westinor » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:59 am

Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:Is there an issue where

1) drugs are legal in @@NAME@@
2) indigenous people in a certain region of @@NAME@@ have been cultivating a plant (which can be refined into a potent drug) for centuries
3) another anti-drug country (e.g., United Federation) puts pressure on @@NAME@@ to eradicate their drug production

?

Inspiration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocalero


There is one on indigenous people cultivating plants with drug-like substances (Problem with Peyote, #1346, I believe), but not one on another country pressuring @@NAME@@ on that specific subject, far as I can tell.
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Postby Frieden-und Freudenland » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:59 pm

Westinor wrote:
Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:Is there an issue where

1) drugs are legal in @@NAME@@
2) indigenous people in a certain region of @@NAME@@ have been cultivating a plant (which can be refined into a potent drug) for centuries
3) another anti-drug country (e.g., United Federation) puts pressure on @@NAME@@ to eradicate their drug production

?

Inspiration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocalero


There is one on indigenous people cultivating plants with drug-like substances (Problem with Peyote, #1346, I believe), but not one on another country pressuring @@NAME@@ on that specific subject, far as I can tell.

Thanks!
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:12 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:If you don't mind me asking, which issue was the most recently published on the 28th of November 2019? (and also, were any issues published in the week following that day)

I know the most recent issue for that date is somewhere in the 1290-1320 range (based on publication dates for issues I've written), but a specific number would be great. I'm trying to create some interestingly specific card collections based on S2's start time (stuff like "most recent issue published").

1296 was published on the 29th November 2019.

Thanks. That would make Fontenais the most-recent Issues Author as of original snapshot, and probably the youngest (in terms of time on NS), too.
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Postby Minskiev » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:06 pm

Has there been an issue where citizens are upset about @@CAPITAL@@ not having any @@ANIMALPLURAL@@, despite the team name?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:57 am

You mean like the GB national rugby team being called The Lions, or the Welsh team being called The Dragons?

I can't really see why that would be an issue, seeing as many nations have national animals that don't live in their countries, and many sports teams are named after fictional animals.
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Postby Minskiev » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:44 am

Well, what if there were a lot of that animal in, say, Brancaland. Perhaps you’d try to purchase some of the animal for a big game?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:57 am

Minskiev wrote:Well, what if there were a lot of that animal in, say, Brancaland. Perhaps you’d try to purchase some of the animal for a big game?


Can't imagine a nation's leader doing that. A sports team promoter might choose to do it as a one-off gimmick, sure, but it's hardly a matter for government.
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Postby Minskiev » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am

But aren’t the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ publicly-funded?
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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:44 pm

Minskiev wrote:But aren’t the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ publicly-funded?

The janitor that cleans the bathroom @@LEADER@@ uses at work is publicly funded. That doesn't mean @@LEADER@@ will be personally dictating what kind of cleaning agent the janitor uses.
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Postby Minskiev » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:59 pm

Cretox State wrote:
Minskiev wrote:But aren’t the @@CAPITAL@@ @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ publicly-funded?

The janitor that cleans the bathroom @@LEADER@@ uses at work is publicly funded. That doesn't mean @@LEADER@@ will be personally dictating what kind of cleaning agent the janitor uses.


Well, a janitor is only one person, and the team of the capital is far larger. But, I see your point.

I’m thinking of doing a draft on Nigerian prince scams, or according to #868, Tasmanian prince scams. Something like @@LEADER@@‘s grandma getting scammed, but since she’s alright with her money in other regards, @@LEADER@@‘s mother can’t gain access of the account, and thus she brought the issue to you, to fix her problem and the Tasmanian prince scams problem as a whole.

Hmm, I wrote a lot.
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