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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:23 am

Diogenes was a great Ancient Greek philosopher and one of the most brilliant minds of his time. However, he was also a stark raving lunatic. He was a homeless weirdo, by choice, and lived in a giant barrel. He spat, urinated and deficated everywhere. He ate in the agora (which was apparently a big no-no at the time) and when asked why he masturbated in public he said that if he could relieve his hunger by rubbing his belly, he would. Diogenes owned nothing but a bowl which he used to scoop water, until he saw a kid scooping water with his hands. This inspired Diogenes to dispose of his water bowl. He was called a "dog" because he fawned at those who gave him things and barked at those who gave him nothing. When Plato tried to define a human as simply as possible, Plato said featherless biped (keep in mind that they didn't know about kangaroos or dinosaurs in Ancient Greece). Diogenes busted into a class that Plato was teaching, mid-lecture, and showed Plato his plucked rooster and said "behold, your human". Too bad they couldn't diognose mental health issues in Ancient Greece. Anyways, there should be an issue regarding Diogenes. Write away! :)
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:21 am

A better approach might to just have any issue about anything, and find room for an eccentric character called Dionne Jennis, perhaps having her leap out of a clay wine jar. Even better if said character is adopting a Diogenic stance on an issue, like, for example, criticising excessive respect for the dead.
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Postby Candensia » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:39 am

And speaking of the dead, I sincerely hope someone can write an issue on this. It sounds like it was meant to be in NS. :rofl:

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby My Nation » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:29 am

This idea came to me a little while ago… but first I need to know, can issues reverse national policies?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:39 am

My Nation wrote:This idea came to me a little while ago… but first I need to know, can issues reverse national policies?

Of coarse they can, that's the point of issues. Be more spacific
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My Nation
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Postby My Nation » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:00 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
My Nation wrote:This idea came to me a little while ago… but first I need to know, can issues reverse national policies?

Of coarse they can, that's the point of issues. Be more spacific

Great, thanks! My idea is an issue that can remove the policy “Conscription.” It’s a really basic idea at the moment, still needs a title and more brainstorming, but here’s the main structure:

Validity: Nation must have the national policy of Conscription.

Description (just a main idea, needs to be written properly): Citizens have been protesting that the nation has made a year of military service mandatory, saying it interferes with their schedules, they have to be away from family, etc.

Option 1: Remove the policy for the sake of the reasons mentioned above.

Option 2: Keep the policy and request a little more government funding towards the military.

Option 3: Increase the 1-year service minimum to 2 (maybe 3) years. Reason being that citizens do not have enough discipline.

As I am considering writing this issue, can someone check if it already exists? If it doesn’t, can I get some suggestions, especially for the title? Thanks!
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:01 pm

Repeals need to be based on something more substantial than "people are complaining about this policy".

We have several ways of removing Conscription already, most notably #184 (which, yeah, is "people are complaining about this policy"... it's an old issue before modern writing guidelines were developed), #810, and #956 (fairly similar to your premise: conscription getting way of citizens doing other important stuff).

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Postby My Nation » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:08 pm

Trotterdam wrote:Repeals need to be based on something more substantial than "people are complaining about this policy".

We have several ways of removing Conscription already, most notably #184 (which, yeah, is "people are complaining about this policy"... it's an old issue before modern writing guidelines were developed), #810, and #956 (fairly similar to your premise: conscription getting way of citizens doing other important stuff).

Darn… I really wanted to write that issue. Oh well, thanks for checking for me!

Wait, before I go: are there any other policy reversals that haven’t been written yet?
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:48 am

I asked about this a while back, but my query wasn't answered. It's fair enough, another more interesting debate started at the exact same time.
Anyway, I know it's a very niche case, but would an issue responding to a WA condemnation be
  1. A good idea
  2. Able to be implemented (i.e. can WA condemnations be tracked by the issue validity code)
  3. and is it feasible given the extremely small population of condemned nations?
Another version could also be written responding to a commendation, but there's less nationwide discussion coming from people saying "you are doing well" as opposed to the international community telling the nation that they are doing something wrong.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:04 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:I asked about this a while back, but my query wasn't answered. It's fair enough, another more interesting debate started at the exact same time.
Anyway, I know it's a very niche case, but would an issue responding to a WA condemnation be
  1. A good idea
  2. Able to be implemented (i.e. can WA condemnations be tracked by the issue validity code)
  3. and is it feasible given the extremely small population of condemned nations?
Another version could also be written responding to a commendation, but there's less nationwide discussion coming from people saying "you are doing well" as opposed to the international community telling the nation that they are doing something wrong.

It'd be too much work, and we'd have to get the admins involved to code a new validity for us.

And it wouldn't be interesting - the majority of those condemned are condemned for Gameplay or R/D purposes. They generally have a limited or no interest at all in issues.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:25 am

My Nation wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:Repeals need to be based on something more substantial than "people are complaining about this policy".

We have several ways of removing Conscription already, most notably #184 (which, yeah, is "people are complaining about this policy"... it's an old issue before modern writing guidelines were developed), #810, and #956 (fairly similar to your premise: conscription getting way of citizens doing other important stuff).

Darn… I really wanted to write that issue. Oh well, thanks for checking for me!

Wait, before I go: are there any other policy reversals that haven’t been written yet?


Many. We've been struggling to get an issue to reinstate an upper house to the government, and reversing absolute primogeniture without removing monarchy entirely has been impossible so far.

Also, don't be dissuaded from pursuing the idea of repealing conscription. Just think about what actual problems come from that policy? Take a look at the ones presented for example, we have:

1) People don't like it.
2) Conscripts tend to be inferior soldiers
3) Conscription gets in the way of doing other things.

But I'm sure you can think of other problems inherent with conscription. Spitballing here, but perhaps you could pursue the idea that making everyone join the military makes everyone think like a soldier, which might hurt the arts and creative management? Maybe you could discuss how people who are abjectly not fit as soldiers are now giving drill sergeants an absolute nightmare of a time. What about women, the sick and the disabled- or even immigrants? And what should the country do if lots of people find they still like the military life after their conscription and try to stick around? Or people emigrating/changing their nationality in a bid to avoid conscription?

There are many possibilities - have fun with it!
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:28 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:I asked about this a while back, but my query wasn't answered. It's fair enough, another more interesting debate started at the exact same time.
Anyway, I know it's a very niche case, but would an issue responding to a WA condemnation be
  1. A good idea
  2. Able to be implemented (i.e. can WA condemnations be tracked by the issue validity code)
  3. and is it feasible given the extremely small population of condemned nations?
Another version could also be written responding to a commendation, but there's less nationwide discussion coming from people saying "you are doing well" as opposed to the international community telling the nation that they are doing something wrong.


The Security Council has passed 284 resolutions from time of writing in it's entire history. Of which many are commendations. And condemnations of entire regions, not individual nations. And repeals, let's not forget repeals.

So probably not worth it. :(
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Luna Amore » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:50 am

Sanctaria wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:I asked about this a while back, but my query wasn't answered. It's fair enough, another more interesting debate started at the exact same time.
Anyway, I know it's a very niche case, but would an issue responding to a WA condemnation be
  1. A good idea
  2. Able to be implemented (i.e. can WA condemnations be tracked by the issue validity code)
  3. and is it feasible given the extremely small population of condemned nations?
Another version could also be written responding to a commendation, but there's less nationwide discussion coming from people saying "you are doing well" as opposed to the international community telling the nation that they are doing something wrong.

It'd be too much work, and we'd have to get the admins involved to code a new validity for us.

And it wouldn't be interesting - the majority of those condemned are condemned for Gameplay or R/D purposes. They generally have a limited or no interest at all in issues.

I think we could swing the code already without admin intervention.**

The second point is why I wouldn't bother. The people who qualify by and large don't answer issues. Once you winnow it down to nations who have been condemned and answer issues, you could probably count the qualifying nations on your hands.



** Now that I'm back at a computer, I tested and it is possible to restrict issues to Commended or Condemned nations with existing code.
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Postby Kaztropol » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:37 pm

I saw an unusual headline that I hadn't seen before after answering an issue today.

That headline being: "Salespeople Report Rising Demand For Long Black Cars With Tinted Windows"

I couldn't figure out what statistic change could have generated that headline. Most of the time, headlines are easy to link to one of the statistic changes. So what stat change generated that headline, and why have I never seen it before ?

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:31 pm

Chan Island wrote:We've been struggling to get an issue to reinstate an upper house to the government

I've drafted a relatively successful issue for fixing that already...

Sanctaria wrote:And it wouldn't be interesting - the majority of those condemned are condemned for Gameplay or R/D purposes. They generally have a limited or no interest at all in issues.
Luna Amore wrote:The second point is why I wouldn't bother. The people who qualify by and large don't answer issues. Once you winnow it down to nations who have been condemned and answer issues, you could probably count the qualifying nations on your hands.

Aw, nuts. It would be interesting to write, but if it's not feasible as an option that's too bad I guess. Thanks!
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:49 am

I wouldn't be keen on any mechanism that "rewards" condemnation anyway... Having access to a super-special issue that no-one else gets to receive certainly feels like a reward.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:30 pm

I am massively amused by the newspaper image for "Do You Want Fries With That?" (#483) being a protest image where the only visible sign is a big one saying "NO."

Kudos to whichever one of you editors chose that one :rofl:
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:04 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:I am massively amused by the newspaper image for "Do You Want Fries With That?" (#483) being a protest image where the only visible sign is a big one saying "NO."

Kudos to whichever one of you editors chose that one :rofl:


Guilty as charged. Surprisingly versatile picture, that one.

My favourite picture assignation is for Issue 32, which Max picked.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:27 am

Without Jutsa to keep us updated, it's hard to keep count. How many issues are we up to now?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:57 am

1255.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:01 am

And now 1256.

What? We're fast workers. :)

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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:54 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:And now 1256.

What? We're fast workers. :)


An issue every 3 minutes :D
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:10 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:And now 1256.

What? We're fast workers. :)


An issue every 3 minutes :D

That's about as frequent as that metro line the government keeps promoting
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Postby Verdant Haven » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:33 am

I'm interested in writing up an issue that's tackling Palm Oil production, and the tremendous environmental impact it has.

Problem is, issue 685 (Externalities Palmed Off) already functionally writes about Palm Oil production... but not really. It is related to the inconvenience of smoke from slash and burn agriculture wafting across the border - it just happens to frame it, for no necessary reason, in terms of overseas Palm Oil production. One option is to declare an embargo on Palm Oil products from this specific neighbor.

I'm finding this very frustrating, because the issue doesn't actually have much of anything to do with Palm Oil, but I feel like it and its effects might be too close for comfort to allow for a more relevant issue on this specific topic. Anybody have any thoughts? Would such an issue be writable so long as it had a validity check against those who took 685.2 (the embargo)? Would it just be too bothersome to write? My intent was that it would be looking at domestic production, rather than foreign.

CWA - I'm particularly interested in your feedback on this, since you're the editor on 685, and I know this is a topic that is of concern/interest to you.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 am

I'm totally up for a good author (which would be you, yaaaay) taking on palm oil again from a different angle. I absolutely agree that the issue doesn't go far into the whole palm oil debate, but when it came up I snapped it up immediately, as it was just about the only draft ever submitted that even mentioned palm oil.

Palm oil is a big enough topic to support at least a couple more issues. There's the orangutan extinction, and the displaced populations, and of course there's the loss of rainforest. Whichever angle you take, count me as interested.

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