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Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners
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Founded: Mar 14, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:30 pm

Trotterdam wrote: However, breaking down crime rates by age group would pretty easily expose the lie, and it wouldn't last long anyway because such a high population growth is unsustainable.


I think the trick would be to decant a lot of newborn angels leading up to the election, thereby enhancing campaign baby kissing while diluting the national murderosity, and then disappearing a proportional number post-election thereby preventing the famine.

You're the hero twice.

Plus, the combination of hypo- and hyper-murder periods will maintain the population as an overall running average. The size and duration of said periods can also be carefully adjusted so as to finesse the crime rate as needed.

One can add clever metaphor about short memories and/or "fake news" in the election cycle as needed.
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:35 pm

Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:and then disappearing a proportional number post-election
If you're going to do that, you might as well let the murders stay but fudge the numbers to make it look like these people hadn't gotten murdered.

Sometimes people just end up with knives in their backs due to natural causes. No murders here!

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Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:50 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:and then disappearing a proportional number post-election
If you're going to do that, you might as well let the murders stay but fudge the numbers to make it look like these people hadn't gotten murdered.

Sometimes people just end up with knives in their backs due to natural causes. No murders here!


I believe in forthright and honest government that doesn't resort to murdering people behind their backs.
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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:04 pm

Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:I believe in forthright and honest government that doesn't resort to murdering people behind their backs.
#568 1. citizens are deeply regretting challenging the government to be honest about its intentions

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Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Autonomous Cleaner Bot Cleaners wrote:I believe in forthright and honest government that doesn't resort to murdering people behind their backs.
#568 1. citizens are deeply regretting challenging the government to be honest about its intentions


4. Your paper shredder looks at you, knowingly. It doesn't talk, of course, but you know what it's trying to say. It beckons you. Go on... One more can't hurt, can it?

waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait...I know. @@LEADER@@ can lower the crime rate by reducing product design safety requirements concerning the maximum width of paper shredder feeder slots and by subsidizing a free necktie benefit for all citizens. Then, just sit back and watch the murder rate plummet, cause fewer people, less murder.

Brilliant.
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Australian rePublic
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Founded: Mar 18, 2013
Anarchy

Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:42 am

I want to write an issue specifically about remote islands. Any ideas?
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Great Nortend
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Postby Great Nortend » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:34 am

As I have got into a groove with academic dress, I want to make an issue about declining standards of dress at universities. A bit like 593, but specific to an academic context. Option 1: Students must wear formal dress with academic gowns and hoods everywhere they go. Option 2: "Smart-casual" dress is mandatory at all classes. Option 3: A socialist student raves about the bourgeois and implements a soviet-style uniform. Option 4: Let students wear what they want.

Thoughts?
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Bears Armed
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:54 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I want to write an issue specifically about remote islands. Any ideas?

There's already one inspired by the Falklands Crisis.
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Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
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Krogon
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Founded: May 25, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Krogon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:36 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I want to write an issue specifically about remote islands. Any ideas?

Maybe a funny issue about colonialism?

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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:08 am

Great Nortend wrote:As I have got into a groove with academic dress, I want to make an issue about declining standards of dress at universities. A bit like 593, but specific to an academic context. Option 1: Students must wear formal dress with academic gowns and hoods everywhere they go. Option 2: "Smart-casual" dress is mandatory at all classes. Option 3: A socialist student raves about the bourgeois and implements a soviet-style uniform. Option 4: Let students wear what they want.
We already have an issue about uniforms in schools. What makes this different from an aged-up version of the same thing?
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Krogon
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Postby Krogon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:02 pm

Are there any issues about killing in self defense and whether its justified?

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Great Nortend
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Postby Great Nortend » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:22 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Great Nortend wrote:As I have got into a groove with academic dress, I want to make an issue about declining standards of dress at universities. A bit like 593, but specific to an academic context. Option 1: Students must wear formal dress with academic gowns and hoods everywhere they go. Option 2: "Smart-casual" dress is mandatory at all classes. Option 3: A socialist student raves about the bourgeois and implements a soviet-style uniform. Option 4: Let students wear what they want.
WE already have an issue about uniforms in schools. What makes this different from an aged-up version of the same thing?


I would consider school uniforms and university standards of dress quite dissimilar. Even in countries where school uniforms are required, most universities do not have specified dress codes.
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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:39 pm

Great Nortend wrote:I would consider school uniforms and university standards of dress quite dissimilar. Even in countries where school uniforms are required, most universities do not have specified dress codes.
I'd consider that a point against it: school uniforms are already a controversial concept, so university uniforms would be even less popular, being rejected even by most of the nations inclined to entertain the notion at all. I guess it might work if you make it a followup specifically for nations that already have school uniforms, so it'll at least be assigned only to nations that have some chance of considering it, though it still doesn't strike me as a particularly interesting dilemma. And like you say, it's a pretty unpopular position in real life.

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Great Nortend
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Postby Great Nortend » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:56 pm

That might work. I've posted it as a draft anyway, so have a look.
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Australian rePublic
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Founded: Mar 18, 2013
Anarchy

Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:51 pm

Krogon wrote:Are there any issues about killing in self defense and whether its justified?

Does that include killing in defence of self only, or also in defence of others? Accidently murder or manslaughter?
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:14 am

Krogon wrote:Are there any issues about killing in self defense and whether its justified?


There's 158. Also, I did this draft on home defence consequences:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=429577
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Krogon
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Founded: May 25, 2018
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Postby Krogon » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:21 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Krogon wrote:Are there any issues about killing in self defense and whether its justified?

Does that include killing in defence of self only, or also in defence of others? Accidently murder or manslaughter?

Ooh, that would be interesting. Both.

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Krogon
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Postby Krogon » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:26 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Krogon wrote:Are there any issues about killing in self defense and whether its justified?


There's 158. Also, I did this draft on home defence consequences:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=429577

I'm mainly talking attempted murder, then someone shoots their attempted murderer. As in the person has already done violence against another person, and said person is shot by other person.

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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:31 am

Krogon wrote:I'm mainly talking attempted murder, then someone shoots their attempted murderer. As in the person has already done violence against another person, and said person is shot by other person.
That's a bit reminiscent of #1235... oops, #1235, though obviously there's other angles to take.

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Chan Island
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Chan Island » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:06 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:I want to write an issue specifically about remote islands. Any ideas?


Are there any issues in the pool about remote islands getting drowned out by the sea due to global warming? Because that's a very topical issue for remote island nations at the moment.
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:01 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:I want to write an issue specifically about remote islands. Any ideas?


Are there any issues in the pool about remote islands getting drowned out by the sea due to global warming? Because that's a very topical issue for remote island nations at the moment.

That's interesting. Cheers
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Luna Amore
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:05 am

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The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name. The unnamable is the eternally real. Naming is the origin of all particular things. Free from desire, you realize the mystery. Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations. Yet mystery and manifestations arise from the same source. This source is called darkness. Darkness within darkness. The gateway to all understanding

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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:03 pm


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Australian rePublic
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Anarchy

Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:48 pm

Interesting, thank you
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