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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:31 am

Right here in the West, rabbits come to mind as an animal that is considered cute and relatively commonly kept as pets, but is also eaten.

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Postby Jutsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:54 am

Finally, we get to see what guinea pig flavored ice cream tastes like.

"what" I played some cards against nationstates recently...
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:43 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:That issue and that approach is okay to me, as it doesn't tie the practice with a specific ethnicity or people. Daguo is China, more or less, so it's the "Dagou people eat dogs" association that is problematic, not the dog-eating itself.

Guinea Pigs being eaten (as 'Cuy') in Peru does seem to be fairly widespread, though... so, okay to proceed with my own 'Titicacan restaurant' draft?


Yeah, the cuy is something they want to show off, not just something people in out-of-the-way lower-class places do.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:56 am

Plus (though I could be wrong) I don't think anyone uses "guinea pig eater" as a racial slur against Peruvians.

The main obstacle here, I think, would be making sure there's no overlap with the existing issues about eating @@ANIMAL@@.
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:34 am

Especially since I'm sure the almighty guinea pig is a prominently featured national animal.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:38 am

Jutsa wrote:Especially since I'm sure the almighty guinea pig is a prominently featured national animal.


I think their national animal is an alpaca. (They eat those too.)
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:39 am

I meant cross-nationstates, but good to know. :rofl:

Fun fact: While not Maine's national animal, they do seem to be one of the most popular farm animals around here.

Why? I have no idea, but that's how it is.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:44 am

Jutsa wrote:I meant cross-nationstates, but good to know. :rofl:

Fun fact: While not Maine's national animal, they do seem to be one of the most popular farm animals around here.

Why? I have no idea, but that's how it is.


Alpacas? Probably cos they have nice wool and don't need a huge amount of land. They are useful animals. Also, they are cute, which is a plus if you're having people visit your farm to bring in extra income.
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Postby Chief Alpaca » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:41 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Alpacas? Probably cos they have nice wool and don't need a huge amount of land. They are useful animals. Also, they are cute, which is a plus if you're having people visit your farm to bring in extra income.


We are indeed adorable! I definitely encourage interest in our fine species.

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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:43 pm

Chief Alpaca wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Alpacas? Probably cos they have nice wool and don't need a huge amount of land. They are useful animals. Also, they are cute, which is a plus if you're having people visit your farm to bring in extra income.


We are indeed adorable! I definitely encourage interest in our fine species.


For sure! :lol:
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Postby Socio Polor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:44 pm

Additionally, we sometimes run Issue Contests (three so far) with the top prize(s) for these contests usually including an invite to the team.

Just a little peeve of mine, but on the Got Issues FAQ it says 3 contests have been held so far, but it has actually been 4

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Postby 95X » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:19 pm

I had an idea; not sure if it's been done before or if it's covered by another issue. I've tried to come up with issue ideas before, then forget I made them. :)

IRL I'm not a Michael Jackson fan, I know some of his songs, etc., was a child when the investigations as to what he was doing were taking place in the 1990s, and heard of some new documentary. That's what this idea is based on.

The issue would therefore be about determining if the government has the right to seize valuable intellectual property of a deceased individual. If someone's alive they might be investigated, charged with any crime that may have committed and eventually sentenced, which might include monetary penalties or a civil trial. If something comes up while an estate is active, a victim might try to sue the estate before property can be dispersed. But years or even decades after someone's death, what happens if something like royalties, patents, copyrights, etc., continue to be worth a lot of money?

Validity would probably be nations that haven't banned capitalism, have private ownership, and probably high income inequality. If there's an way to make an issue valid based on banners for high culture or high arts, maybe that too.

I can think of option ideas; obviously one would allow the government to seize the property and distribute continuing proceeds to the victims, which might even have an effect of government administrators mysteriously being paid salaries equal to the money the property continues to make; one would prohibit doing so; and maybe some others that do things like lower science and/or culture-related things because the government instead tries to insist people not create intellectual property and should instead work in factories? Or maybe other options like upon death intellectual property automatically becomes government property, or becomes public domain (so nobody makes any money off of it any longer), or for nations that haven't banned religion someone comes forward to claim the intellectual property is actually holy scripture of the church of the decedent?

Maybe my brain should instead have different thought processes. :idea:
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:18 pm

95X wrote:I had an idea; not sure if it's been done before or if it's covered by another issue. I've tried to come up with issue ideas before, then forget I made them. :)

IRL I'm not a Michael Jackson fan, I know some of his songs, etc., was a child when the investigations as to what he was doing were taking place in the 1990s, and heard of some new documentary. That's what this idea is based on.

The issue would therefore be about determining if the government has the right to seize valuable intellectual property of a deceased individual. If someone's alive they might be investigated, charged with any crime that may have committed and eventually sentenced, which might include monetary penalties or a civil trial. If something comes up while an estate is active, a victim might try to sue the estate before property can be dispersed. But years or even decades after someone's death, what happens if something like royalties, patents, copyrights, etc., continue to be worth a lot of money?

Validity would probably be nations that haven't banned capitalism, have private ownership, and probably high income inequality. If there's an way to make an issue valid based on banners for high culture or high arts, maybe that too.

I can think of option ideas; obviously one would allow the government to seize the property and distribute continuing proceeds to the victims, which might even have an effect of government administrators mysteriously being paid salaries equal to the money the property continues to make; one would prohibit doing so; and maybe some others that do things like lower science and/or culture-related things because the government instead tries to insist people not create intellectual property and should instead work in factories? Or maybe other options like upon death intellectual property automatically becomes government property, or becomes public domain (so nobody makes any money off of it any longer), or for nations that haven't banned religion someone comes forward to claim the intellectual property is actually holy scripture of the church of the decedent?

Maybe my brain should instead have different thought processes. :idea:


This might work.
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Postby Kurnugia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:07 am

What does "Death by disappearance" imply? Is it like a forced disappearance or?

If yes, is there an issue for nations that have disappearance as a death cause?
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Postby Candensia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:15 am

Kurnugia wrote:What does "Death by disappearance" imply? Is it like a forced disappearance or?

If yes, is there an issue for nations that have disappearance as a death cause?


Yes, it’s the government making you dissappear. Quickly shoved into a black SUV and never seen again, and all that.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:21 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Plus (though I could be wrong) I don't think anyone uses "guinea pig eater" as a racial slur against Peruvians.

The main obstacle here, I think, would be making sure there's no overlap with the existing issues about eating @@ANIMAL@@.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:49 am

In the wake of the 737 Max crashes, I'm considering an issue that deals with safety issues of new planes.

As a matter of fact, aren't there many ideas for aviation safety issues that deal with a specific type of accident (such as pilot error and stuff like that)?
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:43 am

Outer Sparta wrote:In the wake of the 737 Max crashes, I'm considering an issue that deals with safety issues of new planes.

As a matter of fact, aren't there many ideas for aviation safety issues that deal with a specific type of accident (such as pilot error and stuff like that)?


There is at least one issue about airline safety already, so check for overlap.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:28 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:In the wake of the 737 Max crashes, I'm considering an issue that deals with safety issues of new planes.

As a matter of fact, aren't there many ideas for aviation safety issues that deal with a specific type of accident (such as pilot error and stuff like that)?


There is at least one issue about airline safety already, so check for overlap.

I know but that one dealt with general aviation safety (and I wrote it). I think there could be plenty of different angles regarding this topic.
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Postby Maowi » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:52 pm

Is there an issue dealing with this sort of thing?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:35 pm

I am planning an issue draft to reverse the policies to ban zoos. I'm wondering if there are any issues of that premise that might be added in the game?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:20 am

Outer Sparta wrote:I am planning an issue draft to reverse the policies to ban zoos. I'm wondering if there are any issues of that premise that might be added in the game?


If it's on the list in the second post of this thread, then it's a policy reversal we want submissions on.

We don't comment on the status of submitted issues, usually.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:48 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I am planning an issue draft to reverse the policies to ban zoos. I'm wondering if there are any issues of that premise that might be added in the game?


If it's on the list in the second post of this thread, then it's a policy reversal we want submissions on.

We don't comment on the status of submitted issues, usually.

Ok thanks!
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Postby Wrapper » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:32 pm

Re: Jolly Jousting Japes. There really ought to be a pacifist-friendly option on this, or else have high Pacifism/No Sports nations disqualified from receiving it.

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Postby Jutsa » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:06 pm

Gotta admit that one was a bit of a doozy.

Would there be a pacifist non-dismiss option though?
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