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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:42 am

Gagium wrote:
The blAAtschApen wrote:So, has there been an issue about a clinically brain dead woman being pregnant?

Based on German news from 1992, which seems like long ago, but it is actually closer to the founding date of NS than today is.

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-13679986.html

Her other bodily functions were kept alive for a while, because of pregnancy.
the foetus/embry did not survive in the end

I think something sort of similar to what you’re describing actually happened around a month ago, where the fetus ended up surviving (And is still alive, I think)

https://www.azfamily.com/news/investiga ... 69faf.html


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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:10 am

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:11 am

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The blAAtschApen wrote:
Haha, nice try.


Hehe, yes, that and proxies are fantastic :)

Edit: And now that I read it, that is even worse. That women was raped :shock:

Double edit: and a sexist policy was instated because of it, uggggh :(
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:14 am

The blAAtschApen wrote:Hehe, yes, that and proxies are fantastic :)

Edit: And now that I read it, that is even worse. That women was raped :shock:

Double edit: and a sexist policy was instated because of it, uggggh :(
On the other hand, it differs from your original example in that they don't even seem to have noticed she was pregnant until she gave birth, so they can't have been keeping her alive specifically for the child's sake. (Which seems questionable to me. I can get not noticing an early-stage pregnancy, but shouldn't there be an obvious belly bulge for at least the last couple months?)

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:00 am

Here's a potential topic for an issue that occurred to me (based on stories from RL), that I don't recall being already in use, and that I myself don't plan to use: How far should it be considered acceptable (or legal) for actors to portray characters whose races/ethnicities/sexes/genders/religions/'ableness'/etc differ from their own?
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:14 am

Bears Armed wrote:Here's a potential topic for an issue that occurred to me (based on stories from RL), that I don't recall being already in use, and that I myself don't plan to use: How far should it be considered acceptable (or legal) for actors to portray characters whose races/ethnicities/sexes/genders/religions/'ableness'/etc differ from their own?
I think we had a draft on the genders one, though hasn't been admitted into the game.

Found it. Doesn't even seem to have been submitted, or polished to a level that would be ready for submission, though the comments in the thread are worth taking a look at.

The race version is probably more relevant to the modern day, though, as cross-dressing actors are pretty rare nowadays, even if they were the norm once.

There is #1090, although that's about outright changing the characters' genders for a remake, rather than pretending they're still the original genders while using different actors (though that's actually pretty similar to the situation with race, as white actors playing black characters by wearing blackface isn't as common these days as white actors playing what were originally non-white characters without any kind of makeup).

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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:19 am

Does anyone know if there's an issue about both having the Socialist and Monarchy policies? If not, would it be too niche to attempt to write one about the conflict of those two things co-existing?
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:23 am

Valrifell wrote:Does anyone know if there's an issue about both having the Socialist and Monarchy policies?
I'm pretty sure there isn't.

Valrifell wrote:If not, would it be too niche to attempt to write one about the conflict of those two things co-existing?
I don't think so, but that's up to the editors. They seemed supportive of the idea in a recent Technical thread, though.

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:23 am

Bears Armed wrote:Here's a potential topic for an issue that occurred to me (based on stories from RL), that I don't recall being already in use, and that I myself don't plan to use: How far should it be considered acceptable (or legal) for actors to portray characters whose races/ethnicities/sexes/genders/religions/'ableness'/etc differ from their own?

Additional point: If you legislate on the matter, does this just protect the right of actors from minority groups to claim the roles of people from those same groups or does it also restrict them (as well as majority-group members) to playing characters from their own groups?

Trotterdam wrote:as cross-dressing actors are pretty rare nowadays, even if they were the norm once.

I was thinking about the traditional British Pantomime, with its 'dames' and 'principal boys', when the idea originally struck me.
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Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:03 pm

Are there any issues inspired the Charlie Hebdo shooting (religious fanatic kills artist for offensive content)?
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:35 pm

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:Are there any issues inspired the Charlie Hebdo shooting (religious fanatic kills artist for offensive content)?
Pretty sure we did. One moment.

Yeah, here it is.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:41 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:Are there any issues inspired the Charlie Hebdo shooting (religious fanatic kills artist for offensive content)?
Pretty sure we did. One moment.

Yeah, here it is.

Not really that close; it's only a protest, not a murder. Something from the aftermath of a murder could still be differentiated enough to work and avoid overlap.

MI, you'd just need to be a little careful about your options. That should be manageable. I mean, you couldn't have #196.1 (Kill them) anyway, as the death would've happened.
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:13 pm

Okay, I have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too gone for far too long (brain cancer if wondering) and as such I have really been inactive on what has been drafted/authored since like a year ago. Has there been anything drafted along the lines of a brexit-like issue?

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:29 am

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:Okay, I have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too gone for far too long (brain cancer if wondering) and as such I have really been inactive on what has been drafted/authored since like a year ago. Has there been anything drafted along the lines of a brexit-like issue?

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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:04 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:Okay, I have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too gone for far too long (brain cancer if wondering) and as such I have really been inactive on what has been drafted/authored since like a year ago. Has there been anything drafted along the lines of a brexit-like issue?

Brain cancer. Shit man! Are you okay?


I'm okay for now. I just want to get back in the drafting grove to make me feel better for the time being. Being away from NS really started depressing me more than I already was.

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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:47 am

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:(brain cancer if wondering)
Ouch :(

My sympathies.

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:Has there been anything drafted along the lines of a brexit-like issue?
I don't think so. From what I recall, the idea's been floated before, but the problem is that before you can have a Brexit, you need a Brenter. It would violate player autonomy to just state that you're in an EU-like alliance without the player having done anything to bring that about. Also, the single-player nature of the game (WA notwithstanding) means that alliances in general tend to be less-than-exciting.

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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:11 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:Has there been anything drafted along the lines of a brexit-like issue?
I don't think so. From what I recall, the idea's been floated before, but the problem is that before you can have a Brexit, you need a Brenter. It would violate player autonomy to just state that you're in an EU-like alliance without the player having done anything to bring that about. Also, the single-player nature of the game (WA notwithstanding) means that alliances in general tend to be less-than-exciting.


... Wait a minute. Couldn't we use our region as an EU-like alliance? Like if an issue premised that leaders in your region were thinking of making an economic and political union within the region? I mean, it wouldn't actually put them in said union since there isn't a game mechanic for that (at least, I don't think there is), but it would be just for said issue. Would that work? If so, I will have a draft up later today and who knows how it might evolve.

edit: lol I completely didn't read the last sentence.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:17 am

Ages back after I wrote WA Woes, I wanted to write an issue that would kick you out of your region. This was before Brexit, but similar kind of premise I guess. You're sick of @@REGION@@ and its goings-on and by selection Option 1, you'd be sent to the Rejected Realms while you decide on a new region, or whatever.

I was told no when I asked for that to be coded. Alas.
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:23 am

Sanctaria wrote:Ages back after I wrote WA Woes, I wanted to write an issue that would kick you out of your region. This was before Brexit, but similar kind of premise I guess. You're sick of @@REGION@@ and its goings-on and by selection Option 1, you'd be sent to the Rejected Realms while you decide on a new region, or whatever.

I was told no when I asked for that to be coded. Alas.


What I had in mind was quite as drastic as sending you to the RR if you picked to leave. However, I am not surprised the idea was shot down. I think it was because what would happen if someone in the RR were to pick to leave the region?

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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:08 pm

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:Ages back after I wrote WA Woes, I wanted to write an issue that would kick you out of your region. This was before Brexit, but similar kind of premise I guess. You're sick of @@REGION@@ and its goings-on and by selection Option 1, you'd be sent to the Rejected Realms while you decide on a new region, or whatever.

I was told no when I asked for that to be coded. Alas.


What I had in mind was quite as drastic as sending you to the RR if you picked to leave. However, I am not surprised the idea was shot down. I think it was because what would happen if someone in the RR were to pick to leave the region?

That would have been worked around, the problem was the shitstorm we got after people got accidentally kicked from the WA was enough to put the idea to bed.
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Postby Luna Amore » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:48 pm

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:Ages back after I wrote WA Woes, I wanted to write an issue that would kick you out of your region. This was before Brexit, but similar kind of premise I guess. You're sick of @@REGION@@ and its goings-on and by selection Option 1, you'd be sent to the Rejected Realms while you decide on a new region, or whatever.

I was told no when I asked for that to be coded. Alas.


What I had in mind was quite as drastic as sending you to the RR if you picked to leave. However, I am not surprised the idea was shot down. I think it was because what would happen if someone in the RR were to pick to leave the region?

I know first hand what will (likely) happen as a matter of fact. The nation will move out of and then back into TRR. The nation kind of goes into limbo for a second. It's kind of bizarre.

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Postby Sanctaria » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:50 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:
What I had in mind was quite as drastic as sending you to the RR if you picked to leave. However, I am not surprised the idea was shot down. I think it was because what would happen if someone in the RR were to pick to leave the region?

I know first hand what will (likely) happen as a matter of fact. The nation will move out of and then back into TRR. The nation kind of goes into limbo for a second. It's kind of bizarre.

Did Luna mod-eject a puppet to test this back in the day? :p
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:53 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:I know first hand what will (likely) happen as a matter of fact. The nation will move out of and then back into TRR. The nation kind of goes into limbo for a second. It's kind of bizarre.

Did Luna mod-eject a puppet to test this back in the day? :p


To be fair, wouldn't you try to banject someone from TRR if you had the power?
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Postby Luna Amore » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:03 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:I know first hand what will (likely) happen as a matter of fact. The nation will move out of and then back into TRR. The nation kind of goes into limbo for a second. It's kind of bizarre.

Did Luna mod-eject a puppet to test this back in the day? :p

On the playground mirror site, yeah. If you give me a button, I'm totally going to press it. :p

There are safeguards against a mod clearing TRR (or any other major region) on the main site.

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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:21 pm

On a side note, if I remember correctly, having your citizens be made in vats also bans biological reproduction, right? If so, is there an issue that lets you keep vat grown citizens while reversing the ban on sex? Or are these completely unrelated? Also, I was going to start drafting issues based on policies. Is there a list of all known policies in NS?

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