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Trotterdam
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Founded: Jan 12, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:10 pm

In theory, there are three different ways to "ban sex". The game has issue options which imply all three of them, but I do not believe it actually tracks the difference.
1. Make sex illegal, but don't do anything to directly prevent it, leading to, as one effect line puts it, "underground copulation clubs" springing up.
2. Sterilize all your citizens, making reproductive sex impossible (this is effectively banning sex in biological terms), but in a way that doesn't remove their sex drive so that they can still have non-reproductive sex, which you don't really care about anymore at this point.
3. Neuter all your citizens in a way that largely removes their sex drive (castration for males and oophorectomy for females).
(You could also do both 1 and 2 at the same time, but I see little reason why anyone would do that but not go all the way to 3.)

#123 5 wants to "sterilize everybody", implying method 2 (although it could be interpreted as 3 if taken loosely), instead growing people in vats.
#168 2 advocates celibacy and results in "people have to sneak out of the country in order to have sex", suggesting method 1. Although the purpose here is to prevent STDs (and no alternative method of reproduction is advocated), so one might realistically expect limitations like this only applying to unmarried people, no such thing is ever mentioned in the text.
#358 4/5 wants newborns "neutered", implying method 3 (although it could be interpreted as 2 if taken loosely), but does not say how children will be produced instead (possibly vats, but possibly implantation of test tube babies into people's wombs).
#364 3 bans sex, while advocating artificial insemination as an alternative (making it clear that people's sex organs are still biologically functional), and therefore explicitly uses method 1.
#486 5 creates "asexual grunts", implying method 3, with soldiers being grown in vats instead. Apparently it is currently coded as also doing this to the rest of your populace, even though that outcome isn't clear from the option text.

Additionally, these may be done to only certain classes of people, such as those who fail their parenting licenses (#300 1, using method 3) or convicted sex offenders (#075 1, using method 3).

#279 is a reversal for vats. I do not believe there is currently a reversal for mandatory artificial insemination or for neutering of unfit parents. (Shouldn't people who fail the test be allowed to study up and retake it next year?)
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Jutsa
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Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:53 pm

Say, uh, question: Do bills proposed by politicians die out if they're booted out of office,
or are they picked up or dismissed by their predecessors, or does it just keep circulating even after they get the boot? :?
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Bears Armed
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:26 am

On a separate topic, surely there's potential for an issue based on [& using] the song-title "What Shall We Do With A Drunken Sailor?"...
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Fauxia
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Fauxia » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:40 am

Bears Armed wrote:On a separate topic, surely there's potential for an issue based on [& using] the song-title "What Shall We Do With A Drunken Sailor?"...
What a great song that is.
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:19 am

I know there were recent stat changes, so I want to know, is tourism still linked to environment? In an issue about neither, environment went up, tourism down
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Founded: Aug 28, 2015
Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:06 am

Australian Republic wrote:I know there were recent stat changes, so I want to know, is tourism still linked to environment? In an issue about neither, environment went up, tourism down


That's still in beta. No change yet.
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Leutria
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Founded: Oct 29, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Leutria » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:25 am

How would an issue about another nation asking @@NAME@@ to lift it's ban on meat in exchange more trade go over? The recent draft by Amjedia made me wonder what are some other ways a nation might be asked to repeal it's ban on meat, and I came up with the idea of the United Federation asking us to repeal the ban and accept beef imports from them in exchange for loosening their own restriction on @@MAJORINDUSTRY@@ (Although if that can still come up as tourism maybe I will be more vague about increasing trade, or them threatening to put up trade barriers if we don't repeal the ban?)

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USS Monitor
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby USS Monitor » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:03 am

Leutria wrote:How would an issue about another nation asking @@NAME@@ to lift it's ban on meat in exchange more trade go over? The recent draft by Amjedia made me wonder what are some other ways a nation might be asked to repeal it's ban on meat, and I came up with the idea of the United Federation asking us to repeal the ban and accept beef imports from them in exchange for loosening their own restriction on @@MAJORINDUSTRY@@ (Although if that can still come up as tourism maybe I will be more vague about increasing trade, or them threatening to put up trade barriers if we don't repeal the ban?)


Sounds like a viable idea to me. Try writing it up.
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:43 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:I know there were recent stat changes, so I want to know, is tourism still linked to environment? In an issue about neither, environment went up, tourism down


That's still in beta. No change yet.

Thanks
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Shwe Tu Colony
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:51 pm

Say, do we have an issue on replacing a person on @@NAME@@'s currency & people complaining about it? It did happen in the United States, although the Hamilton musical prevented it from happening.
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Singapore no2
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Ex-Nation

Postby Singapore no2 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:29 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Say, do we have an issue on replacing a person on @@NAME@@'s currency & people complaining about it? It did happen in the United States, although the Hamilton musical prevented it from happening.

I doubt so, but assuming from the start that the currency already had a person on their note is a tad presumptuous.

Why don't you make an issue like this:
Desc- You want to make a new big denomination bank note. People are coming up with ideas to be unique.

Option 1: We'll make it have whatever weird design.

Option 2: We'll just add a portrait of @@LEADER@@ like other countries.

Option 3: Why do we even need a bigger note?

Of course, being the author of How To Print Money?, I may be biased in thinking that this would be a bit of an overlap.
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Candlewhisper Archive
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Anarchy

Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:19 am

We had a couple of submissions a while back about putting a face on banknotes, one about there being no women represented on banknotes, the other being a more general list issue of things you could put on banknotes.

After some discussion it was agreed neither of them was very good, so they're long gone.

Basically, go for it, and do it well.
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:00 am

Are there any issues about Milo Yiannopoulos type figures?
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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:09 am

Australian Republic wrote:Are there any issues about Milo Yiannopoulos type figures?
Waddya mean by that? What thing about him?
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:30 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:Are there any issues about Milo Yiannopoulos type figures?
Waddya mean by that? What thing about him?

Radical right-winged figures who give SJWs a run for their money, and leading to protests on the street
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United Massachusetts
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Ex-Nation

Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:04 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Fauxia wrote:Not how it works


Just for clarification, there's no dibs-calling.

I know, it was a joke.

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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:10 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Just for clarification, there's no dibs-calling.

I know, it was a joke.
I know that, just messing around with you, UM
Reploid Productions wrote:Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.
Sandaoguo wrote:GP is a den of cynics and nihilists
My opinions do not represent any NS governments I may happen to be in (yeah right), any RL governments I may happen to be in (yeah right), the CIA, the NSA, the FBI. the Freemasons, the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Knights Templar, the Organization for the Advancement of Cultural Marxism, Opus Dei, or any other organization. Unless I say they do, in which case, there is a nonzero chance.

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United Massachusetts
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Ex-Nation

Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:19 pm

Fauxia wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:I know, it was a joke.
I know that, just messing around with you, UM

I've posted the draft, BTW

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Fauxia
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:24 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Fauxia wrote:I know that, just messing around with you, UM

I've posted the draft, BTW
No, you’ve killed us all! :p
Reploid Productions wrote:Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.
Sandaoguo wrote:GP is a den of cynics and nihilists
My opinions do not represent any NS governments I may happen to be in (yeah right), any RL governments I may happen to be in (yeah right), the CIA, the NSA, the FBI. the Freemasons, the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Knights Templar, the Organization for the Advancement of Cultural Marxism, Opus Dei, or any other organization. Unless I say they do, in which case, there is a nonzero chance.

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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:09 am

You know you spend too much time in GI when you forget that "Violtist" is not a real word. Also, I think I know where CWA's signiture comes from:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldT2g2qDQNQ
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Singapore no2
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Postby Singapore no2 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:22 am

Australian Republic wrote:Also, I think I know where CWA's signiture comes from:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldT2g2qDQNQ

4:25.

Issue authors like submitting garbage more than most people.
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My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

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Jutsa
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Founded: Dec 06, 2015
Capitalizt

Postby Jutsa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:25 am

I'm very proud of my garbage!
You're welcome to telegram me any questions you have of the game. Unless I've CTE'd (ceased to exist) - then you physically can't do that.

Helpful* Got Issues? Links (Not Pinned In Forum) *mostly: >List of Issue-Related Lists | >Personal List of Issue Ideas | >List of Known Missing Issues/Options |
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Singapore no2
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Ex-Nation

Postby Singapore no2 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:35 am

Jutsa wrote:I'm very proud of my garbage!

You might as well call me The Trashman!
My Published Issues
Death Note
This is a Modern-Tech nation. We only put a satellite and a man into space so far.
We are a Middle power, so if we die, so will some of the global economy.
We have the 8th largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. (RL world)
Pro: Regulations, Military, Law and Order
Anti: Freedom of speech, Discrimination, CHEWING GUM
Just so you know, I don't think like that. That stuff is roleplaying Singapore (itself, the real life nation)
I have many issues, and you can find the complete list here.

Quote of the year:
Fauxia wrote:Editors aren’t real people.

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Democratic Socialist Uruguay
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Founded: Feb 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Democratic Socialist Uruguay » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:37 pm

Has anyone made any issue pertaining or similar to that recent Broadway theater adaptation of '1984' that has caused people to literally faint, throw up or scream at the actors from their seats and whatnot.

Has it been done in any capacity whatsoever?

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Australian rePublic
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Founded: Mar 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:52 pm

Singapore no2 wrote:
Jutsa wrote:I'm very proud of my garbage!

You might as well call me The Trashman!
Singapore no2 wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:Also, I think I know where CWA's signiture comes from:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldT2g2qDQNQ

4:25.

Issue authors like submitting garbage more than most people.

If you call what you submit garbage, then you definately don't want to stop in mine...
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