Yeah, it applies to a lot of NSers, especially our younger players, autistic folks, and people whose cultural background is much different from the rest of NS.
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by USS Monitor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:54 am
by Fauxia » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:55 am
USS Monitor wrote:Singapore no2 wrote:I'm sure that that can describe many people- myself included.
After all, it is rather difficult to convey our true emotions through mere text, is it not?
Yeah, it applies to a lot of NSers, especially our younger players, autistic folks, and people whose cultural background is much different from the rest of NS.
by USS Monitor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:46 pm
by Australian rePublic » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:10 pm
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by Shwe Tu Colony » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:56 am
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by Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:28 pm
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Hello, pretty much a newcomer to the issue-writin' sector of Nationstates. Do you guys think my method of suggesting changes is too direct or has an arrogant sort of vibe to it, or do you think it's just fine?Bold words are my suggested changes.
[the issue]Satirists have begun to take advantage of @@NAME@@'s easygoing ballot access rules. This became particularly obvious when the Society of Internationalist Liberal Localist Yuppies (SILLY) nearly won a seat in Parliament on the platform of "growing money on trees" and "popcorn for all" among other tomfoolery. Political scientists predict that this may result in multiple seats for SILLY as soon as the next election.
[option 3]"I have a better idea!" exclaims comedian Jon Warden, while painting a smile on your face. "You can learn a thing or two from this, @@LEADER@@! You should spice up your press conferences with a little humor! Dress up as a clown every now and then, crack a few jokes. Don’t take politics or life so seriously — it isn’t eternal, after all!"
[fallout]most members of parliament fail to understand @@LEADER@@‘s jokes about obscure nations
[option 4]"Everyone seems to be ignoring the obvious solution," remarks founder of the Church Of @@LEADER@@, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while removing the microphone that @@HE@@ had apparently installed. "You could get rid of this problem by doing away with elections and just installing yourself as supreme leader of @@NAME@@. That seems much more simple to me, and there will be less disagreement about it. Or if there is, you can just send in the military to silence the protesters."
[fallout]late-night satires frequently star military generals as guests
by Trotterdam » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:48 pm
I'm pretty sure that's not a coincidence.Australian Republic wrote:I have an issue about betrayal (657) where the traitor's random name is Judas Benedict, or in other words, a traitor named after two traitors. What a coinicidence!
by Shwe Tu Colony » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:48 pm
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Hello, pretty much a newcomer to the issue-writin' sector of Nationstates. Do you guys think my method of suggesting changes is too direct or has an arrogant sort of vibe to it, or do you think it's just fine?Bold words are my suggested changes.
[the issue]Satirists have begun to take advantage of @@NAME@@'s easygoing ballot access rules. This became particularly obvious when the Society of Internationalist Liberal Localist Yuppies (SILLY) nearly won a seat in Parliament on the platform of "growing money on trees" and "popcorn for all" among other tomfoolery. Political scientists predict that this may result in multiple seats for SILLY as soon as the next election.
[option 3]"I have a better idea!" exclaims comedian Jon Warden, while painting a smile on your face. "You can learn a thing or two from this, @@LEADER@@! You should spice up your press conferences with a little humor! Dress up as a clown every now and then, crack a few jokes. Don’t take politics or life so seriously — it isn’t eternal, after all!"
[fallout]most members of parliament fail to understand @@LEADER@@‘s jokes about obscure nations
[option 4]"Everyone seems to be ignoring the obvious solution," remarks founder of the Church Of @@LEADER@@, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while removing the microphone that @@HE@@ had apparently installed. "You could get rid of this problem by doing away with elections and just installing yourself as supreme leader of @@NAME@@. That seems much more simple to me, and there will be less disagreement about it. Or if there is, you can just send in the military to silence the protesters."
[fallout]late-night satires frequently star military generals as guests
Uh... What are you suggesting changes to? I can't see any issue that resembles what you're discussing. Seems familiar though. Is this an extant draft?
by Fauxia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:09 pm
I’m the author, and I’m not offended.Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Uh... What are you suggesting changes to? I can't see any issue that resembles what you're discussing. Seems familiar though. Is this an extant draft?
It was this issue
by Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:33 am
by Australian rePublic » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:11 am
Caracasus wrote:Australian Republic wrote:Go for it
EDIT: The big how-to-proofread-if-you-aren't-that-great-at-it post.
The most important thing to remember.
Basically, you're gonna want to look for 3 types of errors in your work. Spelling errors, punctuation errors and grammatical errors. The mistake a lot of people make when proofreading is that they try to look for all three types at once. Don't do that. Follow this method and break down the task into more manageable chunks.
If you are dyslexic then I would recommend using something like a ruler and holding it under each line of text as you read. Often people with dyslexia will struggle to focus on one line of text at a time. Using a ruler helps with this. There are also colour overlay programs you can get - plugins for Chrome. Search for nOverlay - it's the best I've found.
1) Start by looking for grammatical errors.
Read every sentence clearly and carefully - out loud if you have to. Does it make sense?
Most grammar errors are with verbs (the doing words or state of being words) or plurals. Here is a short youtube video on verb identification if you have trouble with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWPIu8hpYQs
Plurals are when you should, or should not, refer to one or more of something.
Verb/subject agreement is another area where people have problems. They will write things like "We was going out" or "I were busy that evening." Here, the verb (was or were) is the wrong form to use with the subject (we or I). Here is a worksheet that explains this very well if you are struggling. https://www.skillsworkshop.org/resources/subject-verb-agreement
If you require more assistance with grammar, this website is a very good place to start: https://esol.britishcouncil.org/
2) Move on to look for punctuation errors.
Full list of resources for learning how to use punctuation marks:
http://www.sussex.ac.uk/informatics/punctuation/
The biggest mistake made by people when it comes to punctuation is usually not punctuating their sentences properly. Put basically, there are three types of sentences. Simple, complex and compound. More on this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWmKnrtlTHU
People often create very long sentences with far too much going on in them. As a rule of thumb, if you've got more than 3 clauses (complete thoughts) in a sentence, it's far too long. These are called run-on sentences and there is an excellent resource on them here: https://www.gcflearnfree.org/grammar/runon-sentences/1/
2) Finally - spelling.
There's no easy way to say this, but spelling rules are just kind of something you have to learn. Having said that, there is some help out there.
Homophones - words that sound the same but are spelled differently and often hold different
http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/game/en21watc-game-paris-word
General spelling assistance: https://howtospell.co.uk/spelling.php
Now, you can often build up your own mnemonics to help with spelling. This is how, for example, I remember the difference between their, there and they're.Their - I remove the t. What am I left with? heir. Heir as in heir to a throne. Their is all about possession and ownership - so that's how I remember.
There - again I remove the t. I'm left with here. There often refers to place or location, so that's sorted, isn't it?
They're - I work this one out by process of elimination. If it's not the other two, it must be this one.
Fortunately, spelling errors are the easiest errors to correct. Punctuation and grammar mistakes often involve having to re-write or re-do entire sentences. Spelling? That's a matter of just typing in the right letters!
So there you go Aussie (and anyone else looking for help on this.) Remember - don't look for all the errors at once, go through systematically. Read once for grammar mistakes, again for punctuation and once more for spelling.
You've got a tonne of resources there to get you going with. So no more excuses for badly-proofread stuff!
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:03 am
Australian Republic wrote:Thank You Very Much! This guide is excellent! I wonder if it would help people (especiallyt those who don't speak English well) would benefit fromseeing this as a sticky thread
by Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:17 am
by Caracasus » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:59 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:I think you're right. Excellent advice though it is, it's for quite a specific problem: difficulty in proofreading with dyslexia. Probably best just to bookmark it and link it if anyone ever has similar problems in future.
by Fauxia » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:09 pm
People I think are less offended by you bc you’re an editor and have written 30 Issues. But correct. Quite frankly, if you can’t take constructive criticism, you probably shouldn’t be on this forum, or even in this gameCandlewhisper Archive wrote:Ah cool.
Don't worry, all, you can't possibly be more offensive than I am in my draft feedbacks. I think as long as there is an earnest intention to collaborate to produce great issues for the game, there's a lot of forgiveness in this community.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:22 pm
Fauxia wrote:People I think are less offended by you bc you’re an editor and have written 30 Issues. But correct. Quite frankly, if you can’t take constructive criticism, you probably shouldn’t be on this forum, or even in this gameCandlewhisper Archive wrote:Ah cool.
Don't worry, all, you can't possibly be more offensive than I am in my draft feedbacks. I think as long as there is an earnest intention to collaborate to produce great issues for the game, there's a lot of forgiveness in this community.
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I notice we have added a choice validity section in the Issue submission, brilliant!
by Fauxia » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:25 pm
Oh 31 now. One was published only recently.Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Fauxia wrote:People I think are less offended by you bc you’re an editor and have written 30 Issues. But correct. Quite frankly, if you can’t take constructive criticism, you probably shouldn’t be on this forum, or even in this game
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I notice we have added a choice validity section in the Issue submission, brilliant!
I've written 118 issues. But yes, I have the privilege of having 31 of them published.
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