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Neragua
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Postby Neragua » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:53 am

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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:48 pm

Somebody posted an issue about euthanasia via rollercoaster, which gave me a punny name for a new suggestion:

"Searching for that Killer App" could either be about euthanasia via smartphone, or someone distributing something murderous via software. Since this is NS, I'm guessing that a killer app could mean more than just Lotus 1-2-3 or Donkey Kong.

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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:03 pm

I got a question:

I know that there's issues that refer to rebellion in their descriptions and choices, and even has rebellion as results, but I haven't heard of any issue that deals with rebellion or civil war in your own country and how your nation deals with it. There's plenty of issues referring to Maxtopia and its constant civil wars and internal strife but I believe there hasn't been any referring to a civil war in your own country. I'd believe the idea of civil war in your own nation could be a great addition to the issues if there was a bunch written on the subject.

Could anyone refute my belief and if there are no issues on the topic I present, could we add this idea to the bucket list in the OP?

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Postby Luna Amore » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:46 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:I got a question:

I know that there's issues that refer to rebellion in their descriptions and choices, and even has rebellion as results, but I haven't heard of any issue that deals with rebellion or civil war in your own country and how your nation deals with it. There's plenty of issues referring to Maxtopia and its constant civil wars and internal strife but I believe there hasn't been any referring to a civil war in your own country. I'd believe the idea of civil war in your own nation could be a great addition to the issues if there was a bunch written on the subject.

Could anyone refute my belief and if there are no issues on the topic I present, could we add this idea to the bucket list in the OP?

There is one issue on secession that sticks out. It's not quite a full-blown civil war though.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:19 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote: I believe there hasn't been any referring to a civil war in your own country.

That's mostly because every issue has to assume that you, your nation's Fearless Leader, cannot be deposed. It's hard to write options where your side loses, but you continue to remain in power.

Given the precedent of WA Woes, I suppose we could write a rebellion issue where one of the options deleted your nation ... but I suspect it wouldn't be well received.

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Postby San Leggera » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:23 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote: I believe there hasn't been any referring to a civil war in your own country.

That's mostly because every issue has to assume that you, your nation's Fearless Leader, cannot be deposed. It's hard to write options where your side loses, but you continue to remain in power.

Given the precedent of WA Woes, I suppose we could write a rebellion issue where one of the options deleted your nation ... but I suspect it wouldn't be well received.

That would only make sense if it allowed you to restore your nation afterwards, given that (I believe) every issue's effects are reversible besides the easter eggs and unlockables.
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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:03 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote: I believe there hasn't been any referring to a civil war in your own country.

That's mostly because every issue has to assume that you, your nation's Fearless Leader, cannot be deposed. It's hard to write options where your side loses, but you continue to remain in power.

Well given that you remain in power, there's nothing that says you're in your country at all times or are but in very limited control of your nation during such a war. Obviously, the only solution is exile in this case or ruling a small part of your country.

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:05 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:That's mostly because every issue has to assume that you, your nation's Fearless Leader, cannot be deposed. It's hard to write options where your side loses, but you continue to remain in power.

Well given that you remain in power, there's nothing that says you're in your country at all times or are but in very limited control of your nation during such a war. Obviously, the only solution is exile in this case or ruling a small part of your country.

If you can write it into an issue, we'll consider it.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:07 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Well given that you remain in power, there's nothing that says you're in your country at all times or are but in very limited control of your nation during such a war. Obviously, the only solution is exile in this case or ruling a small part of your country.

If you can write it into an issue, we'll consider it.

I never wrote one before... :unsure: Well when I'm not busy with school, I can give it a try.

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I V Stalin
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Postby I V Stalin » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:10 am

You could have an issue dealing with the aftermath of a civil war in your nation - maybe asking what to do with the leader of a failed coup (execute, exile, enslave, exonerate), or a defeated rebel army. Unless it's been done. Sorry, I'm watching the tennis, so I'm not going to check. :p
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Postby Defero Populus » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:46 pm

For Women in the military is it about letting women in or getting them out?
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Panageadom
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Postby Panageadom » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:41 am

Perhaps a choice between the two?
Author of Issues:
#273: Is our children learning?
#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

None at present

If I offer criticism on your proposed issue, I will often write in red: don't think I'm being aggressive, it's just a convention I use!
If I ask a question on a proposed issue thread, then it's because I feel it's one you need to ask of your issue: I'm being Socratic and/or lazy.


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Ieperithem
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Postby Ieperithem » Wed May 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Hey, could this idea work as an issue?

(this isn't a final draft or anything, just the basic structure)

Issue: The spiraling cost of trash collection is driving local governments under as inefficiency goes unchecked.

Options:

1. Have a private company take over the service. (-taxes, -gov't size, ++economy, +corruption, +business subsidization, +toxicity, +pro market)

2. Perhaps a trash collector union boss advises raising taxes to accommodate the cost. Some nations banned unions, so maybe that wouldn't work. (+taxes, +gov't size, ++corruption, -toxicity, -pro market)

3. Remove the institution entirely, and have people take their own trash to the dump. Libertarian thinker proposes the idea, suggesting citizens could hire others if they're rich enough. (--taxes, --gov't size, +++toxicity, ---corruption, +++pro market)

4. Ban the disposal of trash, mandate recycling. Hippie anarchist gives the advice. (+taxes, ----economy, +++enviornment, + law enforcement, - civil rights, ----pro market)


It's similar to the privatized fire companies in #247, but it lacks the danger of arson involved, it involves the government using a contractor, similar to how the USA does it in some states, and there's a decent chance that nations that opt for a public fire service will be less worried about privatizing something with less risk.
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Moroniland
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Postby Moroniland » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:58 pm

I don't think anyone has even looked at my issue about patents. :(
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Moroniland
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Postby Moroniland » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:59 pm

Ieperithem, I am new to this but even i can tell that your issue doesn't seem to match the writing style of NationStates. Try looking at the list of existing issues and using it as a guide.
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Ieperithem
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Postby Ieperithem » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:29 pm

Moroniland wrote:Ieperithem, I am new to this but even i can tell that your issue doesn't seem to match the writing style of NationStates. Try looking at the list of existing issues and using it as a guide.


It's not a written issue, it's an idea and framework. There is no writing style at all as of yet.
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The United Regions
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Postby The United Regions » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:01 am

-Birth Control
-Health Vouchers for private Insurance companies
--reopening the import/export system previous closed in an earlier issue

Here are some isssues please feel free to edit these as you like it is up to you
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Panageadom
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Postby Panageadom » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:42 pm

Would it be possible to get a statistical breakdown of how many issues impinge on which specific industries? Just out of interest, to see which are "underappreciated".
Author of Issues:
#273: Is our children learning?
#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

None at present

If I offer criticism on your proposed issue, I will often write in red: don't think I'm being aggressive, it's just a convention I use!
If I ask a question on a proposed issue thread, then it's because I feel it's one you need to ask of your issue: I'm being Socratic and/or lazy.


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Landenburg
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Postby Landenburg » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:22 am

Since you guys were talking about Civil Wars and stuff, this is just something I thought up.

1. Military Coup
Options: Oh I like the way this guy is thinking, let's give the military more power or something -Political Freedom and Civil Rights
We'll defend @NATION@ till our dying breath, no matter the cost! +Tax Rate raises
Why not just let them have their own bit of land? -Tax rate drops +Political Freedom raises
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The Grim Reaper
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Grim Reaper » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:20 am

Is there an established custom as to having more than one drafting thread active at a time for different drafts, assuming that said threads are being left active and the drafts being edited for a relatively longish period? Would forum regulars understand and be able to follow if I just threw more than one active draft into a single thread?
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Panageadom
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Postby Panageadom » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:42 am

You should put separate drafts in separate threads. I wouldn't worry too much about having multiple drafts in progress at the same time: I used to limit myself to one, but I've since dropped the habit; so long as you aren't totally hogging everyone's time/space/capacity to give advice (i.e. more than three open threads could be too much), I think it should be fine.
Author of Issues:
#273: Is our children learning?
#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

None at present

If I offer criticism on your proposed issue, I will often write in red: don't think I'm being aggressive, it's just a convention I use!
If I ask a question on a proposed issue thread, then it's because I feel it's one you need to ask of your issue: I'm being Socratic and/or lazy.


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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:38 am

Panageadom wrote:You should put separate drafts in separate threads.

No, you really shouldn't. Use the GA convention of putting earlier drafts in spoilers and editing new drafts into the OP.

Mind you, if your first draft was a year ago and you want to open it back up with a significant new draft, a new thread is OK. Posting a new thread for every minor set of changes, not so good.

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Postby Panageadom » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:39 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Panageadom wrote:You should put separate drafts in separate threads.

No, you really shouldn't. Use the GA convention of putting earlier drafts in spoilers and editing new drafts into the OP.

Mind you, if your first draft was a year ago and you want to open it back up with a significant new draft, a new thread is OK. Posting a new thread for every minor set of changes, not so good.


Woops, I interpreted "separate drafts" as "drafts of separate issues", not separate drafts of the same issue.
Author of Issues:
#273: Is our children learning?
#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

None at present

If I offer criticism on your proposed issue, I will often write in red: don't think I'm being aggressive, it's just a convention I use!
If I ask a question on a proposed issue thread, then it's because I feel it's one you need to ask of your issue: I'm being Socratic and/or lazy.


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