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Ransium
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:33 pm

Bears Armed wrote:I've got an idea for an issue.
Its validity would be that the nation has elections.
Its basis would be that Leader has just retained power in an election, and that during the campaigning a number of showbiz celebrities who supported his/her opponent said publicly that they'd emigrate if Leader won... but now they show no signs of doing that. Options would probably be to challenge them openly about this, to covertly run a campaign labeling them as hypocrites, and to deport them...
Do the editors think that this could be a viable idea for an issue?


Is this still something your considering? It sounds like a fun issue.


Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:I have a validity question that I believe only an editor or mod can answer.

Is it possible to have an issue validity about something being banned, then re-legalized, then banned again? I know that it is way out there, but it made me curious enough to draft an issue (not up yet, seeing plausibility first). Would that even be possible to track? Any feedback is humongously appreciated.


I love this idea, I don't know how many times I've banned/unbanned cars but it's easily in the double digits. I hope my poor citizens keep their cars hidden away in their garages.


I'm considering an issue related to animal rights does anyone know off the top of their heads which issues deal with animal person hood? Also any issues dealing with zoos? 547 deals specifically with zoos correct?

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Postby Drasnia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:40 pm

An interesting issue idea, if someone would like to use it (as I'm currently busy), would be for nations that have banned cars. Citizens still own cars but are unable to drive them, so @@LEADER@@ is approached with this idea for the government to buy them back (like the Australian gun buyback). Could be good.
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Ransium
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Postby Ransium » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:48 pm

Drasnia wrote:An interesting issue idea, if someone would like to use it (as I'm currently busy), would be for nations that have banned cars. Citizens still own cars but are unable to drive them, so @@LEADER@@ is approached with this idea for the government to buy them back (like the Australian gun buyback). Could be good.


Where'd you get that idea from :p ? Let me think about it, unless someone else is truly struck by it I might try my hand at it...

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Drasnia
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Postby Drasnia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:15 pm

Ransium wrote:
Drasnia wrote:An interesting issue idea, if someone would like to use it (as I'm currently busy), would be for nations that have banned cars. Citizens still own cars but are unable to drive them, so @@LEADER@@ is approached with this idea for the government to buy them back (like the Australian gun buyback). Could be good.


Where'd you get that idea from :p ? Let me think about it, unless someone else is truly struck by it I might try my hand at it...

Y'know, sometimes you're just reading something and suddenly an idea strikes you? Yeah, that was me just now. But it totally wasn't because of this thread ;)
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Zwangzug
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Zwangzug » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:48 pm

Ransium wrote:I'm considering an issue related to animal rights does anyone know off the top of their heads which issues deal with animal person hood? Also any issues dealing with zoos? 547 deals specifically with zoos correct?
502, Scientists Declare That @@ANIMAL@@s Are Persons.

I'm not sure what the validity is, does option 3 imply that humans couldn't vote before? (Or is it an extra toggle option depending on whether they couldn't to begin with?)
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:26 am

Ransium wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:I've got an idea for an issue.
Its validity would be that the nation has elections.
Its basis would be that Leader has just retained power in an election, and that during the campaigning a number of showbiz celebrities who supported his/her opponent said publicly that they'd emigrate if Leader won... but now they show no signs of doing that. Options would probably be to challenge them openly about this, to covertly run a campaign labeling them as hypocrites, and to deport them...
Do the editors think that this could be a viable idea for an issue?
Is this still something your considering? It sounds like a fun issue.
I do find myself wondering, with how many people keep claiming every election that they'll move to Canada if so-and-so wins, if the data shows a statistically significant increase in emigration in the months following an election...

Somehow I doubt it.

Ransium wrote:I'm considering an issue related to animal rights does anyone know off the top of their heads which issues deal with animal person hood?
#502 Scientists Declare That @@ANIMALPLURAL@@ Are Persons seems like a pretty obvious one. There are other issues about animal rights, but not due to seeing them as people.

Ransium wrote:Also any issues dealing with zoos? 547 deals specifically with zoos correct?
Well yeah. See also #079. And I guess dinosaur parks are a type of zoo.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:55 am

I might tackle the human experimentation issue.

At first I was thinking of tacking it by using a ridiculous approach - i.e. "testing no-tears shampoo", but something that comes to mind is Facebook's recent mess with the potential to influence election sentiment. It reminded me of some research they did last year where they tested to see if they could manipulate the emotional state of a person's Facebook posting habits by manipulating their news feed.

I'm thinking that might be a way of approaching that particular issue that would leave space for humour which isn't trivializing a pretty nasty part of human history. I'd think it touches on most of the relevant concerns.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:27 am

Ransium wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:I've got an idea for an issue.
Its validity would be that the nation has elections.
Its basis would be that Leader has just retained power in an election, and that during the campaigning a number of showbiz celebrities who supported his/her opponent said publicly that they'd emigrate if Leader won... but now they show no signs of doing that. Options would probably be to challenge them openly about this, to covertly run a campaign labeling them as hypocrites, and to deport them...
Do the editors think that this could be a viable idea for an issue?


Is this still something your considering? It sounds like a fun issue.

Yes.
Although option #3 will probably change from 'Deport' (which is unlikely to be possible in a high proportion of nations) to 'Use an old law to draft them into the 'Services Entertainment Agency', and then send them on a tour of isolated military outposts (such as a chain of radar stations in the Arctic)...'
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:30 pm

Can someone give me a list of issues regarding gun control?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:34 am

Inspired by this https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016 ... ommunities ( actually, by a Dutch story about it)

Is there an issue about clandestine hotels popping up in the country/@@CAPITAL@@ similar to airbnb? (validity: high tourism).
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Postby Trotterdam » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:45 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:Can someone give me a list of issues regarding gun control?
#020 Gunman Kills Three
#084 Compulsory Gun Ownership?
#098 Police Want More Than Shiny Badge
#100 Road Rage Rampage (option 3)
#137 Arms Industry Demands Respect
#149 With Liberty, Freedom, And Guns For All?
#158 Regarding Robbers' Rights
#186 Carjacking Concerns (option 2)
#211 Unconventional Weapons Under Fire
#248 The Sky Is Falling (option 3)
#326 Knitters In A Knot Over Police Stitch Up (option 3, also bans knitting needles...)
#488 Bright Orange Is The New Black
#526 Any Idea Where The Law Is, Bessie? (option 4)
#528 Privacy Concerns Reaching New Heights
#629 Boom Or Bust?

This is not counting issues about vigilantism which aren't explicitly about the vigilantes using guns.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Is there an issue about clandestine hotels popping up in the country/@@CAPITAL@@?
#138, #292, #324, and #350 seem to be the only issue that relates to hotels in any way at all, and none are anywhere close to what you're asking about. They aren't even really about hotels much at all, at best they're just about tourism in general, and at worst, they just mention a hotel as a random example of a building someone might want to build.

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Anarchy

Postby Noahs Second Country » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:48 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Noahs Second Country wrote:Can someone give me a list of issues regarding gun control?
#020 Gunman Kills Three
#084 Compulsory Gun Ownership?
#098 Police Want More Than Shiny Badge
#100 Road Rage Rampage (option 3)
#137 Arms Industry Demands Respect
#149 With Liberty, Freedom, And Guns For All?
#158 Regarding Robbers' Rights
#186 Carjacking Concerns (option 2)
#211 Unconventional Weapons Under Fire
#248 The Sky Is Falling (option 3)
#326 Knitters In A Knot Over Police Stitch Up (option 3, also bans knitting needles...)
#488 Bright Orange Is The New Black
#526 Any Idea Where The Law Is, Bessie? (option 4)
#528 Privacy Concerns Reaching New Heights
#629 Boom Or Bust?

This is not counting issues about vigilantism which aren't explicitly about the vigilantes using guns.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Is there an issue about clandestine hotels popping up in the country/@@CAPITAL@@?
#138, #292, #324, and #350 seem to be the only issue that relates to hotels in any way at all, and none are anywhere close to what you're asking about. They aren't even really about hotels much at all, at best they're just about tourism in general, and at worst, they just mention a hotel as a random example of a building someone might want to build.

Wow. Never mind...
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Golgothastan
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Golgothastan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:11 am

One of the recent news items in the UK was about a survey of attitudes, and concerns raised that certain minority populations held views incompatible with "British values". There were also concerns about segregation and integration, and the broader question of whether it was really race/ethnicity/religion, or social class, that was actually the core issue. (Which reminds me of one of those Political Compass questions.)

Are there any issues that would overlap closely with that? There's the Burka ban one, which is about integration to some extent.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:42 am

#491 as well.
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Postby Golgothastan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:45 am

Hmm, 491-3 is probably too close to what I was thinking. Thanks, though.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:19 am

Golgothastan wrote:Hmm, 491-3 is probably too close to what I was thinking. Thanks, though.


There's certainly room for a follow-up, even as a mini-chain, exploring what content a citizenship test should have.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:45 am

How does the mini-chain mechanism work?
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:55 am

Same way as a normal chain. You pick an option, and the game sends you to a fixed issue as the next step.

So for example, we can direct everyone who picks 491-3 to next go to an issue about what the citizenship test consists of, as well as locking that issue from turning up randomly.
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Postby Zwangzug » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:17 am

Will the "issues ideas" be updated again for the contest? I've seen a lot of drafts related to these ideas floating around and I wasn't sure whether it would be better to avoid those or go with something new. (Or whether it would be weird to steal thematically from stuff I've submitted some time ago related to a suggested topic.)
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:57 am

Zwangzug wrote:Will the "issues ideas" be updated again for the contest? I've seen a lot of drafts related to these ideas floating around and I wasn't sure whether it would be better to avoid those or go with something new. (Or whether it would be weird to steal thematically from stuff I've submitted some time ago related to a suggested topic.)


Entirely up to you - go with whichever approach you think will serve you best.

As a thrice-published author of good quality, you're what I'd call a real contender, though Sedge tells me that sometimes the best offerings have come from complete unknowns.
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Postby Troperia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:21 pm

Just asking, has anyone made an issue about either...

a) Trigger warnings in universities,
b) Overemployment or lack of workers or,
c) Religious cult wars between Violetists and any other cult?

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Postby Zwangzug » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:01 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
Zwangzug wrote:Will the "issues ideas" be updated again for the contest? I've seen a lot of drafts related to these ideas floating around and I wasn't sure whether it would be better to avoid those or go with something new. (Or whether it would be weird to steal thematically from stuff I've submitted some time ago related to a suggested topic.)


Entirely up to you - go with whichever approach you think will serve you best.

As a thrice-published author of good quality, you're what I'd call a real contender, though Sedge tells me that sometimes the best offerings have come from complete unknowns.
Don't get my hopes too high. :p

I will actually try to have at least one draft and not just blow some smoke, then!

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Not necessarily looking for an official answer here, but a knowledgeable and serious one: is (part of) the validity for 461 something about being a dictatorship/a successor to dear glorious leader, not just @@LEADER@@?
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:54 pm

I am pretty sure #461 is exclusive to non-democratic countries. Note that the last option lets you introduce elections.

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Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:01 pm

I'm pleased to announce that Golgothastan has rejoined the issues editing team. He had to step down at the start of the year for RL reasons, but has returned to activity since.

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Postby Tinhampton » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:04 pm

Sedgistan wrote:I'm pleased to announce that Golgothastan has rejoined the issues editing team. He had to step down at the start of the year for RL reasons, but has returned to activity since.

Golgothastan: Welcome back to the PAR-TAY! Now, when is your name going to return to that world-famous brown that the entire community knows, loves, recognises and trusts?
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