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Dabarastan
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Postby Dabarastan » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:40 am

"Passenger plane malfunctions and crashes on suburban area, hundreds dead" - has this been done? It seems like it would have been but I can't find any specific issue.
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:47 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:
The Atlae Isles wrote:Is there a preexisting issue on the protected destination of origins of some things like with cheese?
Closest I could find was #899 (and/or #929).
#929 is the one I was going to cite, too. It's about wine rather than cheese, but otherwise it's the exact topic you were talking about.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:06 pm

Dabarastan wrote:"Passenger plane malfunctions and crashes on suburban area, hundreds dead" - has this been done? It seems like it would have been but I can't find any specific issue.

Issue 652 titled "Mayday, Mayday" is about a plane crash.
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Postby Dabarastan » Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:08 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Dabarastan wrote:"Passenger plane malfunctions and crashes on suburban area, hundreds dead" - has this been done? It seems like it would have been but I can't find any specific issue.

Issue 652 titled "Mayday, Mayday" is about a plane crash.

Thank you.

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Postby Nova Catania » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:49 am

Are there any issues about cyberchondria (people looking up their symptoms online and fearing a worst-case scenario)?

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Edit: #114: Wipe Out Graffiti?

Postby Tsandonown » Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:11 am

I feel that the issue at the moment has two extreme solutions, graffiti no where, or graffiti everywhere.
#114: Wipe Out Graffiti? [Gelvanie; ed: Sirocco]

The Issue
Citizens all over @@NAME@@ have been petitioning for firmer action on public graffiti.

The Debate
*1. "It's a disgrace!" declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, middle class and proud of it. "I can't even go downtown without seeing these hideous eyesores debasing the streets! We need to arrest the scumbags at the root of this, lock them up, and teach them a jolly good lesson! More policemen on the beat should do the ticket, even if it does require a slight augmentation in taxes!" [Must have prisons]

*2. "It's a disgrace!" declares @@RANDOMNAME@@, middle class and proud of it. "I can't even go downtown without seeing these hideous eyesores debasing the streets! We need to arrest the scumbags at the root of this, force them to clean every bit of paint off every wall, and teach them a jolly good lesson! More policemen on the beat should do the ticket, even if it does require a slight augmentation in taxes!" [Must not have prisons]

3. "I don't see what's so bad," comments @@RANDOMNAME@@, a famous art critic. "This is urban art at its finest. It's vibrant, colourful, and simply reeks of culture! Just look at the form displayed in this string of racist expletives! Wonderful. Simply wonderful. I think we should really be encouraging these budding Rembrandts, not putting them down! I say we legalise it, in the name of culture!"


I think another option should be proposed to address modern solutions. This should propose specific graffiti allowing areas within cities, whilst not allowing for graffiti in other parts of those cities?

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:29 am

The editors generally prefer not to add extra options to existing issues, especially relatively early ones. Your idea might, however, work as as the basis of a new issue that was "treed" so that it would be received only due to -- and next after -- taking the earlier one's pro-graffiti choices.
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:02 am

Bears Armed wrote:The editors generally prefer not to add extra options to existing issues, especially relatively early ones. Your idea might, however, work as as the basis of a new issue that was "treed" so that it would be received only due to -- and next after -- taking the earlier one's pro-graffiti choices.

A mini issue chain like that would be interesting to do. My issue about bees had one where if you chose the genetically modified route, you are eligible to receive an issue that bases off of that choice about the genetic experimentation going wrong.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:09 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:The editors generally prefer not to add extra options to existing issues, especially relatively early ones. Your idea might, however, work as as the basis of a new issue that was "treed" so that it would be received only due to -- and next after -- taking the earlier one's pro-graffiti choices.

A mini issue chain like that would be interesting to do. My issue about bees had one where if you chose the genetically modified route, you are eligible to receive an issue that bases off of that choice about the genetic experimentation going wrong.

One of my own drafts was accepted specifically for use like that, although I'd originally thought of it in more of a stand-alone. Choose either of the first two [out of for] options for #109 'Karate Kids Cause Controversy' that promotes the Martial Arts and the next issue -- unless, perhaps, that's also when you qualify for one or another of the three special issues for setting details of of your nations? -- the you get will be my #1152 'Everybody Was Kung-Fu Fighting' which is about whether the Martial Arts craze is getting out of control...
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The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
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Postby Jutsa » Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:07 am

I forget... do we have an issue about whether illegal immigrants can vote? (Could be an interesting opportunity to add another option precluding immigrants at all from voting #nativerepresentation :P)

Edit: Oh, and while we're on the subject of voting, have we an issue about whether politicians can be recalled out of office before another election? (Maybe an option that doesn't do that but does allow impeachment by other officials)
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Postby Electrum » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:36 am

Nova Catania wrote:Are there any issues about cyberchondria (people looking up their symptoms online and fearing a worst-case scenario)?


No, but you're going to need to establish why @@LEADER@@ would get involved.

Jutsa wrote:I forget... do we have an issue about whether illegal immigrants can vote? (Could be an interesting opportunity to add another option precluding immigrants at all from voting #nativerepresentation :P)


That's not a thing... citizenship comes with voting rights in real life. Therefore 'illegal immigrants' can not vote. There are only a few exceptions to the rule, like EU residents voting in countries where they reside, and for some reason the UK allowing Commonwealth residents to vote in elections, but in any case these people aren't 'illegal immigrants'.

Jutsa wrote:Edit: Oh, and while we're on the subject of voting, have we an issue about whether politicians can be recalled out of office before another election? (Maybe an option that doesn't do that but does allow impeachment by other officials)


Recall elections are introduced in issue 541 and the Governor of the Central Bank can be recalled in 717.
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Postby Jutsa » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:29 am

Sweet, many thanks Electrum. :)
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Postby NordicLand84 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:31 pm

NordicLand84 wrote:I wanna Make A Issue About Banning Chocolate
Have Some Ideas???

Forget the Banning Chocolate Im Gonna Make an issue about radiation

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:23 pm

NordicLand84 wrote:
NordicLand84 wrote:I wanna Make A Issue About Banning Chocolate
Have Some Ideas???

Forget the Banning Chocolate Im Gonna Make an issue about radiation

There are plenty of issues that deal with radiation, so you need to really narrow it down or it won't cut it.
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Postby NordicLand84 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:05 am

[/proposal]
Outer Sparta wrote:
NordicLand84 wrote:Forget the Banning Chocolate Im Gonna Make an issue about radiation

There are plenty of issues that deal with radiation, so you need to really narrow it down or it won't cut it.

my idea was someone found random tubes of radiation and there would be a debate on where to put the tubes of radiation

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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:17 am

"Tubes of radiation" aren't even a thing.

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Postby Jutsa » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:47 am

That is absolutely correct, they are definitely not a thing. Jutsa certainly wouldn't have something so morbid, haha.,
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:24 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
NordicLand84 wrote:Forget the Banning Chocolate Im Gonna Make an issue about radiation

There are plenty of issues that deal with radiation, so you need to really narrow it down or it won't cut it.

In RL, pre-WW2 (and thus pre "the Bomb"), there was actually a fad for supposedly health-improving radioactive food*: Chocolate with radium deliberately included as a trace- ingredient, for example... An issue on this theme presumably would have to have low-ish Scientific Advancement as a validity criterion, but maybe has possibilities?

(* & toiletries, such as toothpaste? Googling needed, to check...)
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:19 pm

Yeah, there was a phase where people were a bit too caught up in "this new invention is cool, it must be good for you!" wishful thinking.

It's rather implausible for anyone to still be that stupid in the modern day, though, and that's where NationStates nation-states are supposed to be set. Low Scientific Advancement doesn't mean your nation's citizens are completely oblivious to basic common knowledge that everyone in other nations knows, it just means that you don't have the local expertise and infrastructure to build advanced technologies even if you've heard about them.

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Postby SherpDaWerp » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:29 pm

To be fair, I've seen some "your citizens are as dumb as rocks"- or "alternative medicine"-type issues, some of which use Ignorance or Primitiveness for the validity (like #924, #781, or #843, and maybe a couple forum drafts too), so you might still get away with it.

Then again, the fact that we've got three in this sort of space already raises the point that it'll have to be unique enough to not just be "people are eating/taking more weird stuff, but this time it's Radiation".
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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:59 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:To be fair, I've seen high ignorance and/or primitiveness used as the validity for some "your citizens are as dumb as rocks"- or "alternative medicine"-type issues (like #924, #781, or #843, and maybe a couple forum drafts too), so you might still get away with it.

I can confirm that ignorance is unrelated to the validity for #843.
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:11 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
SherpDaWerp wrote:To be fair, I've seen high ignorance and/or primitiveness used as the validity for some "your citizens are as dumb as rocks"- or "alternative medicine"-type issues (like #924, #781, or #843, and maybe a couple forum drafts too), so you might still get away with it.

I can confirm that ignorance is unrelated to the validity for #843.

Oh, well... cheers for letting me know?

Point being that requiring "people oblivious to basic common knowledge" isn't enough to make an issue premise a non-starter (and such premises are in issues already, with or without validity), more than any specific validity on those issues.
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Postby NordicLand84 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:54 am

Trotterdam wrote:"Tubes of radiation" aren't even a thing.

i meant radioactive containers

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Postby Phydios » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:15 am

NordicLand84 wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:"Tubes of radiation" aren't even a thing.

i meant radioactive containers

#584 covered the issue of "what do we do with radioactive waste?" You'd need to make your issue different from that.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:08 pm

NordicLand84 wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:"Tubes of radiation" aren't even a thing.

i meant radioactive containers

You need to really narrow your focus. Doubt you can given the issues that deal with radioactive containers and waste are already ample.
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