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Shwe Tu Colony
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:37 pm

Jutsa wrote:Wait, you can get salmonella from eggnog? o_o

... Good thing I'm not drinking that stuff this year. >_>

Also, I think CWA made something similar to that in one of his drafts.
You can try doing something like that, too, although you'll certainly have some hard competition. :3


Generally only if you use raw eggs I think. Otherwise, it's a low chance.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:11 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Could an issue involving the instrument of a deceased musician be possible? The dilemma would be what to do with it & the options would be:
1. Let future talented musicians play with it
2. It belongs in a museum
3. Sell it
4. Who cares? Break it down for resources bacj
That seems rather overly specific for a national issue. The instrument isn't even what the musician is most famous for, anyway. It's probably just a normal instrument, notable only because it happened to be his.

Also, in most countries, the choice would realistically fall to the musician's next-of-kin, not the government.

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Also, could issues about salmonella from eggnog or how bad fruitcake supposedly is be possible?
That is potentially viable, except that there's multiple issues about food health already, so you'd need to figure out a way to distinguish yours.

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Postby Fauxia » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:46 pm

Do y'all think there would be merit to a categorization of issues? We could divide the issues up into categories, such as military (issues that have to deal with the military), diplomatic (issues that have to do with diplomacy), political freedom/democracy, something like that (have to do with elections), etc. It may be nice to know the balance of the issues in that regard
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:50 pm

Well, there will always be blurry lines, but there will always be issues that address multiple subjects, or that can address multiple subjects depending on which option you pick.

But if you think such a classification would be useful, go ahead and compile it yourself. Nobody's stopping you.

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Postby Fauxia » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:51 pm

Trotterdam wrote:Well, there will always be blurry lines, but there will always be issues that address multiple subjects, or that can address multiple subjects depending on which option you pick.

But if you think such a classification would be useful, go ahead and compile it yourself. Nobody's stopping you.
Well, I just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time. I think I'll start it, though it will take a while.
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Sandaoguo wrote:GP is a den of cynics and nihilists
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:52 pm

Fauxia wrote:Do y'all think there would be merit to a categorization of issues? We could divide the issues up into categories, such as military (issues that have to deal with the military), diplomatic (issues that have to do with diplomacy), political freedom/democracy, something like that (have to do with elections), etc. It may be nice to know the balance of the issues in that regard


It'll be rather tedious with our 800 some issues, but I'd imagine that it'll also help speed it up when someone tries to check for potential overlap or already-done ideas.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:59 pm

Trotterdam wrote:Well, there will always be blurry lines, but there will always be issues that address multiple subjects, or that can address multiple subjects depending on which option you pick.

But if you think such a classification would be useful, go ahead and compile it yourself. Nobody's stopping you.

What about overlap?
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:17 pm

Australian Republic wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:Well, there will always be blurry lines, but there will always be issues that address multiple subjects, or that can address multiple subjects depending on which option you pick.

But if you think such a classification would be useful, go ahead and compile it yourself. Nobody's stopping you.

What about overlap?
I'm putting asterisks for such issues.

How many posts should I reserve?
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Sandaoguo wrote:GP is a den of cynics and nihilists
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Postby Jutsa » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:38 pm

Just make a new topic for it and add a bunch of replies - 3 posts should do, though to be safe and to have room for expansion, maybe reserve 5-7 posts. :P
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:14 am

You only need one post really, if you post numbers
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Postby Fauxia » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:47 am

Australian Republic wrote:You only need one post really, if you post numbers
I reserved three to be safe. If I don’t need then, I can delete them.

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Why is it that when someone is named @@randomname@@, only their last name changes when you log out?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:22 pm

Hmm, do we have an issue for social darwinism & its corresponding policy yet?
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:03 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Hmm, do we have an issue for social darwinism & its corresponding policy yet?
Social Darwinism is a broad ideology, not one particular policy. We have various options that encourage actions that would be in line with it (usually small-government options that cut funding for helping people who can't help themselves, but occasionally taking a more active hand in suppressing undesirables), but no single option that says "let's embrace Social Darwinism in all things!" - nor do I think we need one.

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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:00 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Hmm, do we have an issue for social darwinism & its corresponding policy yet?
Social Darwinism is a broad ideology, not one particular policy. We have various options that encourage actions that would be in line with it (usually small-government options that cut funding for helping people who can't help themselves, but occasionally taking a more active hand in suppressing undesirables), but no single option that says "let's embrace Social Darwinism in all things!" - nor do I think we need one.


Aight then. I asked since my motto is, well, that.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:14 am

So am I OK writing an issue about jury nullifcation?

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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:34 am

What do you guys think of an issue that has the potential of your citizens becoming transhumans

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Postby Jutsa » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:46 am

I think #626: Carbon Copied is about as far as we'll go.

That issue gives me strange vibes...

So am I OK writing an issue about jury nullifcation?


You can, but the premise has to be different from the issues already existing.
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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:56 am

Jutsa wrote:I think #626: Carbon Copied is about as far as we'll go.

That issue gives me strange vibes...

So am I OK writing an issue about jury nullifcation?


You can, but the premise has to be different from the issues already existing.

Yeah, I've seen that issue but it seems to discuss mind uploading. I'm plan on taking a different path on that. I got an idea. What if there was a issue chain on the topic of the singularity. This chain will essentially be only for nations with very high scientific advancement and possibly high IT industry as well. Thoughts?

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Postby Ransium » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:02 am

United Massachusetts wrote:So am I OK writing an issue about jury nullifcation?


The word nullification does not yet appear in the issue base. I *think* it would be an original topic. As far as is this subject matter ripe for an NS issue? I'd say totally.

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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:24 am

Socio Polor wrote:
Jutsa wrote:I think #626: Carbon Copied is about as far as we'll go.

That issue gives me strange vibes...


You can, but the premise has to be different from the issues already existing.

Yeah, I've seen that issue but it seems to discuss mind uploading. I'm plan on taking a different path on that. I got an idea. What if there was a issue chain on the topic of the singularity. This chain will essentially be only for nations with very high scientific advancement and possibly high IT industry as well. Thoughts?

I'm a huge fan of the sci-fi genre so many of my issue ideas will revolve around Science and Technology. I've looked up if they're any existing issues discussing a technological singularity impacting your nation and found none, so I want this chain to be about that

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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:04 pm

Socio Polor wrote:Yeah, I've seen that issue but it seems to discuss mind uploading. I'm plan on taking a different path on that. I got an idea. What if there was a issue chain on the topic of the singularity. This chain will essentially be only for nations with very high scientific advancement and possibly high IT industry as well. Thoughts?


The issues game is set in the present day, and we want to avoid issues that break the reality of the game. "Singularity" would be too far removed from present day technology.
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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:09 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Socio Polor wrote:Yeah, I've seen that issue but it seems to discuss mind uploading. I'm plan on taking a different path on that. I got an idea. What if there was a issue chain on the topic of the singularity. This chain will essentially be only for nations with very high scientific advancement and possibly high IT industry as well. Thoughts?


The issues game is set in the present day, and we want to avoid issues that break the reality of the game. "Singularity" would be too far removed from present day technology.

Ahh, that's unfortunate. Oh well, there goes that idea

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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:35 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Socio Polor wrote:Yeah, I've seen that issue but it seems to discuss mind uploading. I'm plan on taking a different path on that. I got an idea. What if there was a issue chain on the topic of the singularity. This chain will essentially be only for nations with very high scientific advancement and possibly high IT industry as well. Thoughts?


The issues game is set in the present day, and we want to avoid issues that break the reality of the game. "Singularity" would be too far removed from present day technology.

I have a question. If issues are focused on modern technology, what's the point of having the scientific advancement stat. I ask this because in my opinion it wouldn't really make sense if your nation has high advancement in science but still has modern technology. Another question I have is if that's the case then why do we have issues discussing mind uploading, and AI's being smart enough that you have to choose if you wanna classify them as people. Both of which are not modern technology.
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Postby Jutsa » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:51 pm

True - although, that stuff may become a reality sooner than you'd care to think. ;)

Regardless, it is true that there are nations more advanced than others - as is the case with irl.
And, yes, you can stretch technology a bit in NS - the most controversial of such is the vat technology.
(Tbh I don't know how this ended up in the game but it's still there)

Pushing the boundries a little is fine. However, pushing the boundries a lot is far more controversial.
Why this is the case? I'm not really sure, but it is the case regardless. :P
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Postby Socio Polor » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:30 pm

Jutsa wrote:True - although, that stuff may become a reality sooner than you'd care to think. ;)

Regardless, it is true that there are nations more advanced than others - as is the case with irl.
And, yes, you can stretch technology a bit in NS - the most controversial of such is the vat technology.
(Tbh I don't know how this ended up in the game but it's still there)

Pushing the boundries a little is fine. However, pushing the boundries a lot is far more controversial.
Why this is the case? I'm not really sure, but it is the case regardless. :P

Yes however though, these technologies are still a ways off. The debate of whether AI entities should be considered people likely won't start until we have AGI and machines likely won't get to that level of intelligence for another few decades (20-30 years at least). Mind uploading on the other hand is much more complex. This technology is still in the concept stages and researchers aren't even sure if it's possible to begin with or if it is possible will it really be you or a copy. So we're definitely a ways off from getting this. Assuming it is possible mind uploading is something we won't have for decades maybe even a century to come because they're many things we do not yet understand about our own brains or what it means to be councious. So if that alone isn't "strecthing the boundaries" then I don't know what is.
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