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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:12 pm
by Pogaria
Aryax wrote:Issue 94 ("Computer Users Fed Up With Heaps of Spam!") seems like it could use some fixes. I've received this issue in this nation, which has the Socialism and Autocracy policies. Now, strictly speaking, I guess spam can exist in non-market economies, but the text of the options seems to assume the opposite:

“A ban on all spam is a restriction on our freedom of speech and on the freedom of the press!” screams Stella Abbott, president of Citizens for Internet Freedom. “What is the government to say what is and isn’t commercial spam? Could they haul charity representatives off to jail for seeking donations? Could they jail politicians for using email to try and gain votes? Could they arrest me if I accidentally send my erotic novel-in-progress to the wrong address? Seriously, spamming is a subjective offense and as such should not be considered a crime.”

I get that the speaker is talking about a hypothetical situation, but it still seems out of place given how these two scenarios would not occur in my nation.

“Both sides are wrong,” grumbles government paper-pusher Belinda Fox. “Spam is definitely a problem, yet so is the restriction on freedoms which some draconian anti-spam codes would impose. I propose a ban on overtly fraudulent spam, and a tax on more legitimate businesses that rely on spam as an advertising method, and a strict legal definition of spam that would ensure no innocent person was prosecuted or taxed.”

This option is presumably a more borderline case, though.

Thank you. Going forward, this issue will only be available to capitalist nations. Additionally, I made a new version of the second option for nations that don't have elections.

Aryax wrote:EDIT: To avoid a double post, guess I'll add a second report here too. Again, I've received this issue (#457) in this nation under the same conditions, and the premise just seems strange for a Socialist nation:
After a slow news week, one of your aides brought to your attention the controversy surrounding Violetstone National Park. Well-known information technology tycoon Edward Rump recently revealed proposals to purchase the land and intends to carve the faces of former leaders into Mount Rushless, a site revered by many Native Aryaxians.

My question is, how? For one, Mr. Rump here has to be a foreigner if he's a tycoon, as there is no private enterprise in Aryax. But even then, how can he purchase the land in a nation with no private land ownership?

Yes, he is a foreigner, and he can purchase the land directly from the government (if you choose to allow that).

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:22 pm
by Pogaria
Jutsa wrote:#603's first speaker is drunk on scotch, despite alcohol being banned. I get he's supposed to be degenerate, but it's kinda hard to advocate for legal retribution when you're doing something obviously illegal. :P
(Then again, maybe he's just holding an empty bottle he borrowed from someone while on a recent vacation outside the nation and is currently suffering an intense stomach flu he acquired from said vacation. Who knows.)

I fixed this. In nations that ban alcohol, it's now "illegal scotch".

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:55 pm
by The Unified Missourtama States
So this may be a problem if "no computers" policy still allows internet. My nation has "no computers" but got an effects line from 653 that says "The @@DEMONYM@@ Intelligence Agency relies on internet search engines to know what is happening overseas." If I have no computers though, shouldn't I have no internet as well? Now, I don't explicitly have the "no internet" policy, but I would think it's kind of hidden nested in the code.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:24 pm
by Van Nuys
Issue 523 "A Family Affair"
Seems to be slightly bugged? Every person is named Kim.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=88&start=25#523

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:15 am
by The Free Joy State
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:So this may be a problem if "no computers" policy still allows internet. My nation has "no computers" but got an effects line from 653 that says "The @@DEMONYM@@ Intelligence Agency relies on internet search engines to know what is happening overseas." If I have no computers though, shouldn't I have no internet as well? Now, I don't explicitly have the "no internet" policy, but I would think it's kind of hidden nested in the code.

That issue needed a little bit of a change. Nations with no internet now rely on "rumour and guidebooks" to know what's happening overseas.

Van Nuys wrote:Issue 523 "A Family Affair"
Seems to be slightly bugged? Every person is named Kim.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=88&start=25#523

It's not bugged. It's a joke.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:24 am
by Brezzia
I receive issue 487 about a 16yo girl who died suffocating by a "mask of shame", but I do not have corporal punishment policy.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:17 am
by The Free Joy State
Brezzia wrote:I receive issue 487 about a 16yo girl who died suffocating by a "mask of shame", but I do not have corporal punishment policy.

Isolated communities -- which this issue concerns -- attacking and/or humiliating women and girls is a different issue to state-sanctioned corporal punishment.

No change needed.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:23 am
by Trotterdam
I got #1179, about a large-scale fishing industry, on a nation with mandatory Vegetarianism.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:09 am
by Aryax
I received issue #1492 in this nation. The text of option 2 states:
“Ban Metal? I can give you six hundred and sixty-six reasons not to!” exclaims rock singer Tori Kayla, who is wearing a boiler suit and a leatherface mask for reasons unknown. “The issue isn’t the music, nor the fans. It’s the damned drug dealers, pushing their products in the festival. I’ve battled addictions myself, almost died from them. You gotta ban drugs at music festivals. Put money into police to help keep drugs out of the festivals, with gate searches, random checks, and the rest.”

I have the No Drugs policy, so drugs are already completely banned in all circumstances. The rest of the issue could very well apply to my nation anyway, so perhaps add a text doppelganger?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:29 pm
by Zinertia
Issue No. 834, Government and CO.

In Option 2, the following is stated
“Why stop at government buildings? These detectors should be installed everywhere!” enthuses your worrywort Public Safety Minister, after checking the various detectors in your office. “We need to install these detectors in schools, places of business, and even people’s homes.


In a NationState with a socialism policy, might schools and places of business be government buildings?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:59 pm
by Pogaria
Trotterdam wrote:I got #1179, about a large-scale fishing industry, on a nation with mandatory Vegetarianism.

Technically, the issue doesn't say anything about eating the fish. Yes, that's not very realistic, but I could see someone on NS insisting that their export-only fishing industry is a proud tradition in their vegetarian nation.

Aryax wrote:I received issue #1492 in this nation. The text of option 2 states:
“Ban Metal? I can give you six hundred and sixty-six reasons not to!” exclaims rock singer Tori Kayla, who is wearing a boiler suit and a leatherface mask for reasons unknown. “The issue isn’t the music, nor the fans. It’s the damned drug dealers, pushing their products in the festival. I’ve battled addictions myself, almost died from them. You gotta ban drugs at music festivals. Put money into police to help keep drugs out of the festivals, with gate searches, random checks, and the rest.”

I have the No Drugs policy, so drugs are already completely banned in all circumstances. The rest of the issue could very well apply to my nation anyway, so perhaps add a text doppelganger?

Wow, I've never seen a nation that was this restrictive. I can see why you're #1 for "Most Extreme".

I will discuss this with the other editors.

Zinertia wrote:Issue No. 834, Government and CO.

In Option 2, the following is stated
“Why stop at government buildings? These detectors should be installed everywhere!” enthuses your worrywort Public Safety Minister, after checking the various detectors in your office. “We need to install these detectors in schools, places of business, and even people’s homes.


In a NationState with a socialism policy, might schools and places of business be government buildings?

Yes, schools are usually government-owned buildings in just about every RL nation, and businesses are often government-owned in non-capitalist nations. However, as used in this issue, "government buildings" only refers to places where government work (administration) occurs.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:08 pm
by Trotterdam
Pogaria wrote:Wow, I've never seen a nation that was this restrictive. I can see why you're #1 for "Most Extreme".
The really weird thing is that Aryax still manages to score highly on a number of scales such as Average Income of Poor, Cheerfulness, Lifespan, Human Development Index, and Intelligence. Apparently, this is a totalitarian dictatorship that works.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:07 pm
by Paffnia
Valentine Z wrote:#1217: Monkey Business

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1. "Of course the gorilla should be allowed to testify," demands Phil Hutz, the lawyer for the prosecution, who has lost every single case, yet still receives business.

I was somewhat confused reading this when I got this issue. I get the idea (and the Simpsons reference), but lawyers for the prosecution don't "receive business." Defense and plaintiff's lawyers do, sure, but a prosecutor doesn't get "business." I guess it could be very loosely interpreted as either 1) Hutz is still assigned cases by his boss at the DA's office or, 2) in a very capitalist state, there is some sort of bidding among private lawyers to take cases on behalf of the state. But the first is a stretch of the phrase "receives business" and the second is not a model I imagine would come to mind for almost any player/nation.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:37 pm
by Sensorland
1065: Pulling Out
Option 4:
“Or, maybe ya should just forget about this here nonsense ‘cuz it’s junk anyhoo,” rants an ambassador from the United Federation, thrusting a two-foot-long, fried, bacon-wrapped Mega Hot Dog Deluxe Supreme™ into his ten-gallon mug of Moonbucks coffee. “Even if clahmate changes were really caused by men, stahfling economical progress will only tarnish yer abilities to fahnd betta ways of doin’ thangs. If you quickly pull out now and denounce this here treaty for the Dàguó hoax it is, you will sure be much better off — just lahk us!”


This option should be altered for nations who have compulsory vegetarianism, if only to mention that the bacon-wrapped Mega Hot Dog Supreme is contraband.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:27 am
by Trotterdam
Maybe the ambassador is claiming diplomatic immunity?

Often embassies are formally considered to be enclaves under the law of the nation running them.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:45 am
by Racoda
1479: option 4
“It’s not about the quantity of tickets you sell, but quality,” sneers Mr. Ron Opoly, a tycoon who owns all four railroads in a nearby coastal resort city. “It is only proper that the upper crust should travel in a manner befitting our wealth and status. My peers and I could be convinced to leave our limos if you added luxury train cars to subways, first-class reclining seats to buses, and private cabins to ferries. Those of us who like to travel in style will gladly pay more for a more refined transit experience, and our premium tickets will easily keep your budget afloat. The rest of the teeming masses can pack into steerage like they always have.”


Minor issue, I have the No Automobiles policy, option 4 mentions limos and buses (buses might be valid, but private limos definitely not).

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:21 pm
by Zinertia
Have today received issue No. 1370 All Systems Post-Nominal in a nation with the policies of Socialism and Universal Health Care.

Surely such a scenario would be a criminal case rather than a dilemma for the government to handle?

An individual providing medical advice for payment from the patient is in contravention of both the aforementioned policies.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:47 am
by Trotterdam
#96: "Due to the explosive population growth in @@NAME@@, coupled with recent droughts, people are beginning to worry about the nation's decreasing water supply, and who should get first dibs on the vital H2O." Issues can code subscripts nowadays, right?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:42 am
by Fhaengshia
I received Issue #1005 "What Goes Up Breaks Down" which starts with the premise about accidents involving ageing jet fighters, but I have the "No Aircraft" policy active.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:34 am
by Luna Amore
Trotterdam wrote:#96: "Due to the explosive population growth in @@NAME@@, coupled with recent droughts, people are beginning to worry about the nation's decreasing water supply, and who should get first dibs on the vital H2O." Issues can code subscripts nowadays, right?

Subbed.

Fhaengshia wrote:I received Issue #1005 "What Goes Up Breaks Down" which starts with the premise about accidents involving ageing jet fighters, but I have the "No Aircraft" policy active.

Fixed.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:31 am
by Merni
Racoda wrote:1479: option 4
“It’s not about the quantity of tickets you sell, but quality,” sneers Mr. Ron Opoly, a tycoon who owns all four railroads in a nearby coastal resort city. “It is only proper that the upper crust should travel in a manner befitting our wealth and status. My peers and I could be convinced to leave our limos if you added luxury train cars to subways, first-class reclining seats to buses, and private cabins to ferries. Those of us who like to travel in style will gladly pay more for a more refined transit experience, and our premium tickets will easily keep your budget afloat. The rest of the teeming masses can pack into steerage like they always have.”


Minor issue, I have the No Automobiles policy, option 4 mentions limos and buses (buses might be valid, but private limos definitely not).

The limos could be horse-drawn carriages? (As indeed buses used to be.)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:19 am
by Racoda
Merni wrote:The limos could be horse-drawn carriages? (As indeed buses used to be.)

That's quite a stretch for a nation that's fairly technologically advanced :P

Horse-drawn carriages could also clash with the description of the No Zoos policy...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:23 am
by Balrotam
see you =0

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:59 pm
by Trotterdam
Racoda wrote:
Merni wrote:The limos could be horse-drawn carriages? (As indeed buses used to be.)
That's quite a stretch for a nation that's fairly technologically advanced :P
So maybe they're genetically-engineered horses.

Just having advanced technology doesn't mean old technologies disappear or stop being useful, especially when the new ones are banned. People need to get around somehow.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:39 am
by Pogaria
Aryax wrote:I received issue #1492 in this nation. The text of option 2 states:
“Ban Metal? I can give you six hundred and sixty-six reasons not to!” exclaims rock singer Tori Kayla, who is wearing a boiler suit and a leatherface mask for reasons unknown. “The issue isn’t the music, nor the fans. It’s the damned drug dealers, pushing their products in the festival. I’ve battled addictions myself, almost died from them. You gotta ban drugs at music festivals. Put money into police to help keep drugs out of the festivals, with gate searches, random checks, and the rest.”

I have the No Drugs policy, so drugs are already completely banned in all circumstances. The rest of the issue could very well apply to my nation anyway, so perhaps add a text doppelganger?

I have adjusted this issue so that nations with severe drug restrictions won't receive it.