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Gonswanza
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Gonswanza » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:38 pm

For #159, option 1 seems to imply that the "slavery" policy should be enacted for it, given the flavor text "hundreds of thousands of convicts work as slaves in @@NAME@@'s many privately-owned prisons." yet it does not add such a policy when chosen.

Adding to that, we need more issues that remove the "No Prisons" policy, given I clicked on option 2, thinking it would only add corporate punishment... But it also added "No Prisons" as well.
(Granted, I was using http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/ for figuring out what each choice does, it seems I skipped over the "No Prisons" policy being added. So that's on me. Partially.)
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Pogaria
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:46 am

Gonswanza wrote:For #159, option 1 seems to imply that the "slavery" policy should be enacted for it, given the flavor text "hundreds of thousands of convicts work as slaves in @@NAME@@'s many privately-owned prisons." yet it does not add such a policy when chosen.

The slavery policy means that human ownership is legal, as opposed to people being forced to work as punishment for their crimes. In this effect line, "slaves" is more of a figure of speech.
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:09 am

In #578's opening and second option, the "Hell-@@ANIMAL@@" looks awkward if your animal is multiple words. The additional words at the very least need to be capitalized, but if you can wrangle the coding, it would be even better if the spaces were replaced with hyphens, or the field was truncated to only the last word.
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Allinburg
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Allinburg » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:01 pm

in #47, option 3:
“Hold on there, hold on people!” says @@RANDOMNAME@@ of the @@NAME@@ Broadcasting company. “We don’t have to take either extreme, all we have to do is make a TV game show out of it! We put deadly obstacles on the border and monitor it with television cameras! Those that make it across win freedom and citizenship, and those who don’t, well, let’s just say that our buzzards won’t starve. We could call it ‘Who Wants to be an Immigrant?’!”

perhaps capitalising "Company" and "Be" would look better
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Libertarian Police State

Postby SherpDaWerp » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:03 am

#1501.1
“Four!” cries grassland ecologist Yasmin Suparman.

I can't tell if this is a deliberate joke or not - if it isn't, note that the traditional golfers' call is spelled "Fore".

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Sanctaria
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Sanctaria » Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:11 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:#1501.1
“Four!” cries grassland ecologist Yasmin Suparman.

I can't tell if this is a deliberate joke or not - if it isn't, note that the traditional golfers' call is spelled "Fore".

Given the context of the line right after it, yes it's a deliberate joke.
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Brocken Brackh
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Corporate Bordello

Postby Brocken Brackh » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:33 pm

Issue 1'043, option 3
“The problem isn’t that your niece has already had help, nor that no-one appreciates her... ahem... creativity,” coughs designer Yvette Saint-Marie, who sports a tasteful monochrome dress, as she sits and crosses her ankles demurely. “It’s that those monstrosities are so very frightful that no-one in their right mind would buy them, or accept them as a gift, or even give them to an enemy as a mean-spirited joke. There’s no point in throwing good money after bad, but that doesn’t mean that other people should not be aided. A governmental hardship fund should subsidise aspirational entrepreneurs with genuine artistic merit.”

Bearing in mind the issue's first option, I'm fairly sure that that should be "hasn't already had help" rather than "has already had help" here.


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Jutsa
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Anarchy

Postby Jutsa » Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:54 am

Hi, this isn't so much a complaint as an inquiry, just because I could see it being intentional. So with regards to issue 217 option 3, it mentions this:
"If people had to pay a rate of NHS tax based on such factors as nicotine and alcohol intake, [...]"

So, I should note that my nation prohibits drinking (and smoking, though I could see nicotine patches being a thing). Is this an oversight, or is it able to be sort-of shrugged off as it's not explicitly saying smoking/drinking and can also imply illicit activity?
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Brezzia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Brezzia » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:18 am

I received issue #1044 "OK Stupid" which tell that I have uneducated ministries and politicians even if I have very high intelligence and very low ignorance. I received this issue even when I had very high Public Education.
Choice 2 also says that my nation "is a vast cesspool of cultural stupidity" with "crystals, specters, charlatans, religious superstition", while I have very low Primitiveness and Religiousness.
I know it's still possible that incompetent politicians exist and I can just dismiss the issue, but it's very annoying to receive insults to your nations after you work hard to improve good stats.

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Zinertia
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Zinertia » Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:07 pm

Issue 897, "The Devil's Playground", makes references to vehicles when my nation has banned automobiles (and aircraft).

she plasters every available surface of your vehicle with My God Loves Me bumper stickers

She runs out of space to place bumper stickers and starts hanging garlic cloves from your rearview mirror.

“It’s sad,” mumbles your niece, clambering into your vehicle.

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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:17 pm

A vehicle could be a carriage, although those are less likely to have rearview mirrors.

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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:29 am

I have gotten a #1116 To Each According to His Feed, which directly states that food quality in my nation is rather low, despite it having a high Food Quality stat. Might really need a stat check, because I can hardly believe that.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Sensorland » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:22 pm

I've received #145: Hackles Raised Over Fur Clothes Debate, despite mandating vegetarianism and having the "No Zoos" policy, which outlaws keeping animals in confinements. I don't think nations with either of these policies, let alone both, should be eligible for this issue.
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Pogaria
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:28 pm

Trotterdam wrote:In #578's opening and second option, the "Hell-@@ANIMAL@@" looks awkward if your animal is multiple words. The additional words at the very least need to be capitalized, but if you can wrangle the coding, it would be even better if the spaces were replaced with hyphens, or the field was truncated to only the last word.

I agree - but we currently have no way of modifying or truncating the custom fields in that manner (aside from adjusting the capitalization, which I did change). Furthermore, people are free to change their own custom fields if they don't like the way they appear in issues.

Allinburg wrote:in #47, option 3:
“Hold on there, hold on people!” says @@RANDOMNAME@@ of the @@NAME@@ Broadcasting company. “We don’t have to take either extreme, all we have to do is make a TV game show out of it! We put deadly obstacles on the border and monitor it with television cameras! Those that make it across win freedom and citizenship, and those who don’t, well, let’s just say that our buzzards won’t starve. We could call it ‘Who Wants to be an Immigrant?’!”

perhaps capitalising "Company" and "Be" would look better

This seems stylistic, not an objective error. I'm going to defer to the original editor and not make any changes.

Brocken Brackh wrote:Issue 1'043, option 3
“The problem isn’t that your niece has already had help, nor that no-one appreciates her... ahem... creativity,” coughs designer Yvette Saint-Marie, who sports a tasteful monochrome dress, as she sits and crosses her ankles demurely. “It’s that those monstrosities are so very frightful that no-one in their right mind would buy them, or accept them as a gift, or even give them to an enemy as a mean-spirited joke. There’s no point in throwing good money after bad, but that doesn’t mean that other people should not be aided. A governmental hardship fund should subsidise aspirational entrepreneurs with genuine artistic merit.”

Bearing in mind the issue's first option, I'm fairly sure that that should be "hasn't already had help" rather than "has already had help" here.

The second option says:
"Her father has always spoiled her, and now I worry you're going to do the same. He gave her ample kosses to start this venture, and she's lost it all.
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Pogaria
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:04 pm

Jutsa wrote:Hi, this isn't so much a complaint as an inquiry, just because I could see it being intentional. So with regards to issue 217 option 3, it mentions this:
"If people had to pay a rate of NHS tax based on such factors as nicotine and alcohol intake, [...]"

So, I should note that my nation prohibits drinking (and smoking, though I could see nicotine patches being a thing). Is this an oversight, or is it able to be sort-of shrugged off as it's not explicitly saying smoking/drinking and can also imply illicit activity?

I could see this as being past nicotine and alcohol intake (before any ban), which could still affect a person's health in the present day.

Brezzia wrote:I received issue #1044 "OK Stupid" which tell that I have uneducated ministries and politicians even if I have very high intelligence and very low ignorance. I received this issue even when I had very high Public Education.
Choice 2 also says that my nation "is a vast cesspool of cultural stupidity" with "crystals, specters, charlatans, religious superstition", while I have very low Primitiveness and Religiousness.
I know it's still possible that incompetent politicians exist and I can just dismiss the issue, but it's very annoying to receive insults to your nations after you work hard to improve good stats.

Even nations with a highly educated populace can elect stupid people. I could provide plenty of examples. :lol:
However, I did adjust the issue so that nations with a very intelligent population won't receive it.

Zinertia wrote:Issue 897, "The Devil's Playground", makes references to vehicles when my nation has banned automobiles (and aircraft).

Trotterdam wrote:A vehicle could be a carriage, although those are less likely to have rearview mirrors.

As Trotterdam says, this could be a non-motorized vehicle.

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I have gotten a #1116 To Each According to His Feed, which directly states that food quality in my nation is rather low, despite it having a high Food Quality stat. Might really need a stat check, because I can hardly believe that.

I added a food quality check to this issue. We didn't have that stat when the issue was originally added.

Sensorland wrote:I've received #145: Hackles Raised Over Fur Clothes Debate, despite mandating vegetarianism and having the "No Zoos" policy, which outlaws keeping animals in confinements. I don't think nations with either of these policies, let alone both, should be eligible for this issue.

I agree that it's unlikely. However, those policies don't explicitly outlaw clothing made from animals. Feel free to dismiss the issue if it doesn't make sense to you.
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Aryax
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Founded: Oct 16, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Aryax » Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:29 am

Issue 94 ("Computer Users Fed Up With Heaps of Spam!") seems like it could use some fixes. I've received this issue in this nation, which has the Socialism and Autocracy policies. Now, strictly speaking, I guess spam can exist in non-market economies, but the text of the options seems to assume the opposite:

“A ban on all spam is a restriction on our freedom of speech and on the freedom of the press!” screams Stella Abbott, president of Citizens for Internet Freedom. “What is the government to say what is and isn’t commercial spam? Could they haul charity representatives off to jail for seeking donations? Could they jail politicians for using email to try and gain votes? Could they arrest me if I accidentally send my erotic novel-in-progress to the wrong address? Seriously, spamming is a subjective offense and as such should not be considered a crime.”

I get that the speaker is talking about a hypothetical situation, but it still seems out of place given how these two scenarios would not occur in my nation.

“Both sides are wrong,” grumbles government paper-pusher Belinda Fox. “Spam is definitely a problem, yet so is the restriction on freedoms which some draconian anti-spam codes would impose. I propose a ban on overtly fraudulent spam, and a tax on more legitimate businesses that rely on spam as an advertising method, and a strict legal definition of spam that would ensure no innocent person was prosecuted or taxed.”

This option is presumably a more borderline case, though.



EDIT: To avoid a double post, guess I'll add a second report here too. Again, I've received this issue (#457) in this nation under the same conditions, and the premise just seems strange for a Socialist nation:
After a slow news week, one of your aides brought to your attention the controversy surrounding Violetstone National Park. Well-known information technology tycoon Edward Rump recently revealed proposals to purchase the land and intends to carve the faces of former leaders into Mount Rushless, a site revered by many Native Aryaxians.

My question is, how? For one, Mr. Rump here has to be a foreigner if he's a tycoon, as there is no private enterprise in Aryax. But even then, how can he purchase the land in a nation with no private land ownership?
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Gandoor
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:56 pm

This isn't actually an error in an issue but an error regarding one of the random names that can be applied to issues:
I got the issue This Green and Pleasant Land (Issue No. 630) and the random name I got in option 1 is 'Patrick vonBismarck' with no space between the 'von' and 'Bismarck'.
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Linda s Cakes
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Ex-Nation

Postby Linda s Cakes » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:00 pm

I know it sounds like I’m creating more problems here, but we need more issues that allow nations to repeal past laws. For example, ever since banning contact sports in one of my other nations, I wanted to repeal the ban, but never got the chance to do so

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Dictatorial Pingu
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Founded: Aug 07, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Dictatorial Pingu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:28 am

I got issue #642, in 3rd option the mother of teenage sprog performed ju-jitsu (is there a typo?) moves, which is physical sport, while sports are banned in my nation. How is this possible?
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Trotterdam
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Trotterdam » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:36 am

DICTATORIAL PINGU wrote:I got issue #642, in 3rd option the mother of teenage sprog performed ju-jitsu (is there a typo?) moves, which is physical sport, while sports are banned in my nation. How is this possible?
Jujutsu is primarily a self-defense skill, not a sport. It's possible for people to learn it for practical purposes without holding competitions.

Although the "ju(-)jutsu" spelling is more accurate to the Japanese pronounciation, "ju(-)jitsu" is also widely used in English, having gained popularity before Japanese transliteration was standardized. Mostly this is because the so-called "u" sound in Japanese isn't exactly analogous to either the "u" or "i" sound in English, but rather is a sound that doesn't exist in English, so different hearers may disagree on which English sound is the "closest match".

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Jutsa
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Anarchy

Postby Jutsa » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:44 am

#603's first speaker is drunk on scotch, despite alcohol being banned. I get he's supposed to be degenerate, but it's kinda hard to advocate for legal retribution when you're doing something obviously illegal. :P
(Then again, maybe he's just holding an empty bottle he borrowed from someone while on a recent vacation outside the nation and is currently suffering an intense stomach flu he acquired from said vacation. Who knows.)

That said, can I just say what a beautifully written issue this is. Somehow I have never even seen it before... and I'm glad I did. :)
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Brezzia
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Founded: Aug 26, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Brezzia » Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:08 am

Answer 3 to issue n. 60 increased Crime, while it supports civil rights for gay people. Maybe it is a misconception releted to the "freedom to commit crime" that was already deleted in World Census Ranking-

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Umbratellus
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Founded: Aug 22, 2021
New York Times Democracy

Postby Umbratellus » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:47 pm

Brezzia wrote:Answer 3 to issue n. 60 increased Crime, while it supports civil rights for gay people. Maybe it is a misconception releted to the "freedom to commit crime" that was already deleted in World Census Ranking-

If I had to guess it's the "right to privacy part" which would interfere with government surveillance and intelligence collecting.

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Kingdom of Voidstania
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Founded: Sep 27, 2021
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Kingdom of Voidstania » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:55 pm

Answer 2 to issue number 52 gives you Prudism, despite the issue never dealing with clothing, only art.
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Umbratellus
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Umbratellus » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:59 pm

Kingdom of Voidstania wrote:Answer 2 to issue number 52 gives you Prudism, despite the issue never dealing with clothing, only art.

Prudism is related to having a low nudity score; censoring the art probably decreased your score enough for it to register.

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