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Option 1 of issue #488 (Bright Orange Is the New Black) begins

“We’re raising a generation of natural born killers!” writes left-wing mommy-blogger <presumably random name> in her latest Barryblog post.

This issue was received today by my puppet Cain A P-N Ng v1, which has banned both computers and the Internet. Can one have blogs and bloggers with neither computers nor the Internet (or even just without the Internet)?

The issue Diving For @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ has odd capitalization.

""We should do what now?" Environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@ exclaims." should read ""We should do what now?" environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@ exclaims."'

#1173 Thinking a Little Too Hard?

This issue's options directly reference the military. All of them. It doesn't use a credible forced-response narrative, so it shouldn't be drawn if nations lack militaries. If you want to be pesky at nations that don't have militaries, set up other issues for that.

Yesterday wrote:Issue #1002 mentions a zipper in option 2 even though we have compulsory nudism.

This issue has been adjusted accordingly.

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:"Raiders of the Lost Archive" seems to have a mistake in the 3rd option. Decries seems to be used incorrectly: it would be correct if the speaker was bemoaning the primitive state of the country's paper archives, but considering that the speaker is only praising digitization in the dialogue, it isn't a denouncement of anything.

This has been changed to "proclaims".

Seanat wrote:Issue 685 option 2 conflicts with Autarky.

We will add an alternate option for nations with autarky.

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Gotten #1116 “ To Each According to His Feed” despite having high food quality stat. Is there something wrong here?

We're still discussing this one.

Ellbonnia wrote:Issue #524, Option 3: "We could do with rearranging the number of seats each constituency get, however."
"get" should be changed to "gets".

Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:"meat prices are soaring as the farming industry struggle under government-imposed restrictions" should be either:
1) "meat prices are soaring as the farming industries struggle under government-imposed restrictions" or
2) "meat prices are soaring as the farming industry struggles under government-imposed restrictions"

I recommend using option 1) here, but 2) would be a more conventional fix.

Both of these have been confirmed to be acceptable usage in British English, where "a single subject includes a collective noun when being spoken of as a whole: the constituency, as a whole, get a set number of seats and the farming industry, as a whole, struggle under the restrictions".

Zinertia wrote:Issue No. 122 Pensioners In Protest assumes a war to have happened in the history of the Nation State encountering the issue, at the end of the first option:

All it requires is a little more generosity on the part of the tax payers - after all, we fought the war for their sort."

This can disrupt the formulated narrative of a Nation State that has not engaged in war throughout its recent (or even entire) history.

This could have been a metaphorical war, such as a war of productivity against your economic rivals.

Sandwichs wrote:The issue Diving For @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ has odd capitalization.

""We should do what now?" Environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@ exclaims." should read ""We should do what now?" environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@ exclaims."'

Thanks. I fixed it.

Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:#1173 Thinking a Little Too Hard?

This issue's options directly reference the military. All of them. It doesn't use a credible forced-response narrative, so it shouldn't be drawn if nations lack militaries. If you want to be pesky at nations that don't have militaries, set up other issues for that.

I will discuss this with the other editors.

Pogaria wrote:

Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:"meat prices are soaring as the farming industry struggle under government-imposed restrictions" should be either:
1) "meat prices are soaring as the farming industries struggle under government-imposed restrictions" or
2) "meat prices are soaring as the farming industry struggles under government-imposed restrictions"

I recommend using option 1) here, but 2) would be a more conventional fix.

Both of these have been confirmed to be acceptable usage in British English, where "a single subject includes a collective noun when being spoken of as a whole: the constituency, as a whole, get a set number of seats and the farming industry, as a whole, struggle under the restrictions".

Hate to be a pain, but I'm not really sure about this one. "The farming industry" is third-person-singular, equivalent with he, she, or it; substituting in any one of those reveals it's a bit off:

"meat prices are soaring as it struggle under government-imposed-restrictions"

For that equivalency, imagine establishing the subject and then referring to it with pronouns thereafter: "You know (the farming industry)? Meat prices are soaring as (it) struggle under government-imposed-restructions."

Steelfeather's two suggestions were to pluralise the subject or to depluralise the verb, both of which would be acceptable revisions:

"meat prices are soaring as they struggle under government-imposed restrictions"
"meat prices are soaring as it struggles under government-imposed restrictions"

An extra source for this is the British council ("But with the third person singular (she/he/it), we add an –s"), so I believe it's correct for this scenario. Happy to be wrong; but that's how I read it.

Unrelatedly...

3 days and 6 hours ago I answered #842.1 and 4 hours ago I received #1481 (both on this nation). Gives me another chance to boost immigration and inclusiveness, which is nice, but should I really get an issue about illegal immigrants when I've just given them all amnesty and citizenship anyway?

#842.1 wrote:A group of men each as tall as your knee stumble into the room and break into song. “Zoompo-boodo-zippity-zoo, master feeds us terrible food. Zoompo-boodo-zippa-dah-deeeeee, if you are bad he will whip ye! What do you get when you eat like a cat? An eating disorder, and that is that! I don’t like the taste of it!” The Zompa Boodas hand you a petition asking for all illegal immigrants to be granted amnesty and citizenship, before they are shoveled into a wheelbarrow by your security guard, in order to remove them from your office.

1481 wrote:A church in Nocturne has been acting as a sanctuary for illegal immigrants in danger of being deported. This is because, in accordance with long-standing tradition, members of law enforcement avoid entering places of worship and arresting people while services are ongoing. The church is now on the twentieth day of a marathon service in an attempt to keep a family from facing immediate deportation.

In the description for issue #75, there is a missing comma. I have highlighted it in bold and it after the word years

"After the capture and trial of notorious rapist @@RANDO NAME@@, who was convicted of the rape of over 50 women in the past two years, a debate has emerged on how he should be punished."

SherpDaWerp wrote:Unrelatedly...

3 days and 6 hours ago I answered #842.1 and 4 hours ago I received #1481 (both on this nation). Gives me another chance to boost immigration and inclusiveness, which is nice, but should I really get an issue about illegal immigrants when I've just given them all amnesty and citizenship anyway?

#842.1 wrote:A group of men each as tall as your knee stumble into the room and break into song. “Zoompo-boodo-zippity-zoo, master feeds us terrible food. Zoompo-boodo-zippa-dah-deeeeee, if you are bad he will whip ye! What do you get when you eat like a cat? An eating disorder, and that is that! I don’t like the taste of it!” The Zompa Boodas hand you a petition asking for all illegal immigrants to be granted amnesty and citizenship, before they are shoveled into a wheelbarrow by your security guard, in order to remove them from your office.

1481 wrote:A church in Nocturne has been acting as a sanctuary for illegal immigrants in danger of being deported. This is because, in accordance with long-standing tradition, members of law enforcement avoid entering places of worship and arresting people while services are ongoing. The church is now on the twentieth day of a marathon service in an attempt to keep a family from facing immediate deportation.

#842 is about a amnesty and citizenship for all current illegal immigrants, but does not discuss opening up immigration to more individuals in future.

There are appropriate validities on both issues and SherpDaWerp qualifies.

Panagouge wrote:In the description for issue #75, there is a missing comma. I have highlighted it in bold and it after the word years

"After the capture and trial of notorious rapist @@RANDO NAME@@, who was convicted of the rape of over 50 women in the past two years, a debate has emerged on how he should be punished."

Amended.

Issue No. 1457 Use the Farce, @@leadername@@ opens with

... your Census Director runs up to you in the parking lot...

The presence of a parking lot is contradictory to Nation States that have a policy of no automobiles. And I doubt much running can be done in bicycle storage units.

Zinertia wrote:And I doubt much running can be done in bicycle storage units.

I've seen some pretty large ones.

Zinertia wrote:Issue No. 1457 Use the Farce, @@leadername@@ opens with

... your Census Director runs up to you in the parking lot...

The presence of a parking lot is contradictory to Nation States that have a policy of no automobiles. And I doubt much running can be done in bicycle storage units.

As Trotterdam says, there are some very large bicycle parking lots in the Netherlands. I've seen them.

Pogaria wrote:

Zinertia wrote:Issue No. 1457 Use the Farce, @@leadername@@ opens with
The presence of a parking lot is contradictory to Nation States that have a policy of no automobiles. And I doubt much running can be done in bicycle storage units.

As Trotterdam says, there are some very large bicycle parking lots in the Netherlands. I've seen them.

Trotterdam wrote:

Zinertia wrote:And I doubt much running can be done in bicycle storage units.

I've seen some pretty large ones.

I doubt you can run across rows of bike racks

Issue #464,
Option 3 says folks, not "folk" like it's supposed to be called

#57 Electronic Plague in @@NAME@@! doesn't check whether @@NAME@@ has a police force before attributing option #1 to a "Federal Police Chief". That option should only be available if you've got federal law enforcement services in your nation.

Rocain Founder wrote:Option 1 of issue #488 (Bright Orange Is the New Black) begins

“We’re raising a generation of natural born killers!” writes left-wing mommy-blogger <presumably random name> in her latest Barryblog post.

This issue was received today by my puppet Cain A P-N Ng v1, which has banned both computers and the Internet. Can one have blogs and bloggers with neither computers nor the Internet (or even just without the Internet)?

Over two weeks ago I made the above post about what looks to me like a problem with an issue option given to a nation with a conflicting Policy.

Pogaria responded to a number of questions raised in later posts, but said nothing about this one.

Is this

• Just an unintentional failure to notice the post? If so, please consider it now.
• Actually being/already addressed, though noting this was overlooked? If so, please acknowledge. - or -
• Because my post was so ludicrous/stupid/off-topic that it was unworthy of a response? If so, please let me know in what way(s) so I can endeavor not to make the same mistake(s) again in possible future posts?

Thank you.

Rocain Founder wrote:

Rocain Founder wrote:Option 1 of issue #488 (Bright Orange Is the New Black) begins

“We’re raising a generation of natural born killers!” writes left-wing mommy-blogger <presumably random name> in her latest Barryblog post.

This issue was received today by my puppet Cain A P-N Ng v1, which has banned both computers and the Internet. Can one have blogs and bloggers with neither computers nor the Internet (or even just without the Internet)?

Over two weeks ago I made the above post about what looks to me like a problem with an issue option given to a nation with a conflicting Policy.

Pogaria responded to a number of questions raised in later posts, but said nothing about this one.

Is this

• Just an unintentional failure to notice the post? If so, please consider it now.
• Actually being/already addressed, though noting this was overlooked? If so, please acknowledge. - or -
• Because my post was so ludicrous/stupid/off-topic that it was unworthy of a response? If so, please let me know in what way(s) so I can endeavor not to make the same mistake(s) again in possible future posts?

Thank you.

Didn't see it. My fault.

I can make an alternate version of this option for nations that don't use the internet.

Kors wrote:Issue #464,
Option 3 says folks, not "folk" like it's supposed to be called

I've heard both of these, and wouldn't call this an objective error.

Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:#57 Electronic Plague in @@NAME@@! doesn't check whether @@NAME@@ has a police force before attributing option #1 to a "Federal Police Chief". That option should only be available if you've got federal law enforcement services in your nation.

We assume that all nations have some sort of police - even if they're just unpaid volunteers. "Federal Police Chief" could be a self-appointed title.

Issue #190 contains a punctuation error in the fourth option, which I have underlined.

"It’s not our war? It’s not our war?” cries (in)famous Panagouge-born fascist Minerva Caldwell. “Well maybe it’s time it became our war! Panagouge should take a more active, and by ‘active’ I mean ‘hostile’, role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! I sit in endless darkness, striving for a better life.! Sieg Panagouge!”

Panagouge wrote:Issue #190 contains a punctuation error in the fourth option, which I have underlined.

"It’s not our war? It’s not our war?” cries (in)famous Panagouge-born fascist Minerva Caldwell. “Well maybe it’s time it became our war! Panagouge should take a more active, and by ‘active’ I mean ‘hostile’, role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! I sit in endless darkness, striving for a better life.! Sieg Panagouge!”

If I recall, the second-to-last sentence of that option is basically your national motto. In this case, your motto contains a period, but that doesn't make it outright have a punctuation error. It probably doesn't account for national mottos that end in punctuation marks.

Outer Sparta wrote:

Panagouge wrote:Issue #190 contains a punctuation error in the fourth option, which I have underlined.

"It’s not our war? It’s not our war?” cries (in)famous Panagouge-born fascist Minerva Caldwell. “Well maybe it’s time it became our war! Panagouge should take a more active, and by ‘active’ I mean ‘hostile’, role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! I sit in endless darkness, striving for a better life.! Sieg Panagouge!”

If I recall, the second-to-last sentence of that option is basically your national motto. In this case, your motto contains a period, but that doesn't make it outright have a punctuation error. It probably doesn't account for national mottos that end in punctuation marks.

Yep. The period is there because your motto ends in a period.

Is it appropriate to get #70 in a nation with compulsory Atheism?

(While I'm at it, update on this? I realize I posted that in the wrong thread, sorry.)

I got issue #4 "Economic Collapse Looms!" with an option #2 that reads:

“This is a catastrophe waiting to happen,” says the Chamber of Commerce. “Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it’s high time they did.”

The problem is that my nation has the No Automobiles policy, so everyone knows they don't get cars anywhere.

Iupatia wrote:I got issue #4 "Economic Collapse Looms!" with an option #2 that reads:

“This is a catastrophe waiting to happen,” says the Chamber of Commerce. “Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it’s high time they did.”

The problem is that my nation has the No Automobiles policy, so everyone knows they don't get cars anywhere.

Not sure how national policies would affect the issues text, but it's hard-coded in a way that it doesn't account for distinct policy settings.

Trotterdam wrote:Is it appropriate to get #70 in a nation with compulsory Atheism?

No. Atheist nations will no longer receive this issue. Good catch.

Speaking of catches:

Trotterdam wrote:(While I'm at it, update on this? I realize I posted that in the wrong thread, sorry.)

Oddly enough, around 1% of nations have compulsory vegetarianism while maintaining a fishing industry. Perhaps they're exporting the fish.

#591 seems to imply that the fish are being farmed for food (domestically), so I modified it.
#1179 is about the fishing industry in general and is vague enough that it doesn't exclude an export-only situation, so I left it alone.

Iupatia wrote:I got issue #4 "Economic Collapse Looms!" with an option #2 that reads:

“This is a catastrophe waiting to happen,” says the Chamber of Commerce. “Think of the consequences! Without big business, where do the jobs come from? Where do we get our medicine? Our cars? Our latest fashions? There are dozens of useless regulations the government could abolish today to make life easier for commerce, and it’s high time they did.”

The problem is that my nation has the No Automobiles policy, so everyone knows they don't get cars anywhere.

Thanks. I'm surprised that no one's asked about this in the last 18 years.

Nations with no cars will now see a reference to "our electronics".

Pogaria wrote:Speaking of catches:

Trotterdam wrote:(While I'm at it, update on this? I realize I posted that in the wrong thread, sorry.)

Oddly enough, around 1% of nations have compulsory vegetarianism while maintaining a fishing industry. Perhaps they're exporting the fish.

If they're vegetarian rather than outright vegan then maybe they're using the fish as a [phosphate-rich] fertiliser for their crops? 'Fishmeal' is used in RL, after all